Hidden Gems of Xbox Game Pass

chooka1 wrote:
PWAlessi wrote:

Mechwarrior 5 is now on Xbox game pass for PC!

Anyone play? If so, thoughts?

I've downloaded but I haven't fired it up yet. Hopefully I'll have some time tomorrow to give it a go.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is on Game Pass for Console as of today. Downloaded but TBH I already had it on PS4 where I barely played it so I’m not sure ima get much more play out of it on xbone.

I started up Nier Automata via Game Pass last night. I have, of course, heard heaps of praise about it when it first came out, but wasn't sure it's for me. I played about an hour, long enough to get to the first save point--the game starts with a warning that there is no auto-save and you'll learn about saving later, so it was quite a relief when I finally saw that I could save. And...I dunno. I really like how I have heard people describe this game. I didn't particularly enjoy any of the mechanics I engaged with in that first hour. Everything about the combat felt mooshy and squishy and both too hard (even what seem like the most basic little enemy drones seem to require way too many shots/hits to defeat) and too easy (it seemed like I was never in any danger at all). Maybe I'd enjoy it more on Easy? Or maybe there are more interesting mechanics and/or story stuff if I stick with it? I'll probably give it one more chance to grab me.

mrlogical wrote:

I started up Nier Automata via Game Pass last night. I have, of course, heard heaps of praise about it when it first came out, but wasn't sure it's for me. I played about an hour, long enough to get to the first save point--the game starts with a warning that there is no auto-save and you'll learn about saving later, so it was quite a relief when I finally saw that I could save. And...I dunno. I really like how I have heard people describe this game. I didn't particularly enjoy any of the mechanics I engaged with in that first hour. Everything about the combat felt mooshy and squishy and both too hard (even what seem like the most basic little enemy drones seem to require way too many shots/hits to defeat) and too easy (it seemed like I was never in any danger at all). Maybe I'd enjoy it more on Easy? Or maybe there are more interesting mechanics and/or story stuff if I stick with it? I'll probably give it one more chance to grab me.

I started this game last week, I did enjoy the dynamics of the gameplay, change of perspectives, and the story has to grab you later when something does not click in the relation of androids/humans on the moon/humans on earth, bosses, etc. Its a short game, maybe 6-8hrs, and I am just starting the 2nd playthrough(its the way it was desgined to be played, many times, I think it will be faster/different each time).
I also played it on easy to get the story and easy gameplay.
I am enjoing it, and plan to keep playing, but also Red Dead Redemption 2 it is too tempting.....
The beast deal in gaming has to be GamePass in forever.....

mrlogical wrote:

I started up Nier Automata via Game Pass last night. I have, of course, heard heaps of praise about it when it first came out, but wasn't sure it's for me. I played about an hour, long enough to get to the first save point--the game starts with a warning that there is no auto-save and you'll learn about saving later, so it was quite a relief when I finally saw that I could save. And...I dunno. I really like how I have heard people describe this game. I didn't particularly enjoy any of the mechanics I engaged with in that first hour. Everything about the combat felt mooshy and squishy and both too hard (even what seem like the most basic little enemy drones seem to require way too many shots/hits to defeat) and too easy (it seemed like I was never in any danger at all). Maybe I'd enjoy it more on Easy? Or maybe there are more interesting mechanics and/or story stuff if I stick with it? I'll probably give it one more chance to grab me.

I just finished this up actually. Its definitely one of my favorite experiences in gaming, I absolutely loved it.

However, big caveat here, I played on easy, with all of the "auto" chips enabled. Auto fight, dodge, fire, switch weapons, everything. I am not a fan of the style of combat, and probably would have put the game down and walked away if not for the auto chips. I am so glad they existed, as they allowed me to really enjoy the game. Also didn't hurt that I looked like a total badass at the fighting, even if I wasn't even holding the controller sometimes.

Its a short game, maybe 6-8hrs, and I am just starting the 2nd playthrough(its the way it was desgined to be played, many times, I think it will be faster/different each time).

The "ending" terminology does the structure a disservice. The "ending" of the game is really just the ending of act 1. For me, it helps to think of endings A, B, C, and D/E as distinct acts within an overall plot line. The D/E line is the only major arc where there are different endings to the same sub story.

In fact, on reflection, the game really only has two endings (D and E) and everything else is just a gimmick.

Acts or chapters are a good way to think of it. The first two are mostly the same, from two different perspectives. The others all take place after that.

I think it took me around 20 hours to get ending A, 15 or so for B, then the rest were significantly shorter.

I burned out on the game after ending B. Having to more or less replay the entire game with slight changes was a tedious slog. The teaser trailer they play for the rest of the game's endings looked really interesting, but by the time I got there, I'd had enough of it.

I'm playing Stellaris with my brother on GamePass. Is there a standalone thread for that game? Looking to try and figure out some strategies instead of my "just wing it" approach.

Top_Shelf wrote:

I'm playing Stellaris with my brother on GamePass. Is there a standalone thread for that game? Looking to try and figure out some strategies instead of my "just wing it" approach.

Here you go. If you post in there looking for strategies I'm sure someone will offer some thoughts!

Badken posted some recent Stellaris getting started videos in that thread, check out the last few pages and you should find them.

Be sure to specify that you're on the console version. I believe it's a few patches behind the PC one.

I started up Mech Warrior 5 and played for long enough to realize it's not for me. I loved Mech Warrior 2 way back in the day, but I think my patience for and interest in this kind of fiddly simulation is much different now than it was 25 years ago. Is it a mech game trope to have the tutorial mission lead into bad guys invading your base, killing someone close to you, and setting off the plot? Battletech started that way too, so I'm guessing this is just a thing in the mech world more than MW5 is ripping off Battletech...

I also tried Streets of Rage 4. I kinda hated it! I liked these kinds of games back in the day, and had heard some chatter about Streets of Rage 4 that talked about how it's a cool modern take on the old brawler form but, in playing the first level my reaction was more like "oh, this is why I haven't played a game like this in a few decades." I can imagine there is some depth in there that I just didn't get, but I wasn't interested in working to find it.

I tried the new "Riding A Horse Slowly Through The Snow Simulator" game last night for the first time, and was kind of bored.

Wait, I think it's called "Red Dead Redemption II".

I have no doubt it will pick up eventually, but my first impression of this is it's a Rockstar game, so it's going to throw lots of boring things at me in order to make the world seem "real".

More than most Rockstar games, RDRII is committed to its mood and feel at the expense of nearly everything else, including player convenience. Settle in for a slow burn, and take its quirks with an open mind. But also be ready to decide it just might not be for you. It's an impressive, arrogant, boring, thrilling game.

I started it today and had heard all the "oh the opening is just riding through the snow and really boring" then I'm there like "but look how well they capture the genre, that soundtrack, thing of beauty" the buttons swapping around is a bit of a pain though.
Played the first 2 hours I think, if it only gets better from here, bring it on. Again hunting was the lowest point.

beanman101283 wrote:

More than most Rockstar games, RDRII is committed to its mood and feel at the expense of nearly everything else, including player convenience. Settle in for a slow burn, and take its quirks with an open mind. But also be ready to decide it just might not be for you. It's an impressive, arrogant, boring, thrilling game.

And outstanding graphically, its the best I have seen from this console (playing on a launch XboxOne), I started it playing it and yes all the comments fit to get you in the mood, environment, etc., it may be not for you and its ok to erase it and try something else.....

RDR2 is not for everyone. You either settle in and enjoy the slow janky ride, or you fall off.

I tried a game last night which is also not for everyone. I played Metal Gear 3 Snake Eater HD. Some people loved it when it came out. I bought it on day one and sold it back to EB Games on day 2. I thought I would give the HD version a try. This game has not aged well. It’s still not for me. I’m curious to know what fans of this game see in it.

beanman101283 wrote:

More than most Rockstar games, RDRII is committed to its mood and feel at the expense of nearly everything else, including player convenience. Settle in for a slow burn, and take its quirks with an open mind. But also be ready to decide it just might not be for you. It's an impressive, arrogant, boring, thrilling game.

This is the best description I've seen

The only Rockstar open-world games I've played extensively are the first GTA III and RDR; I was burned out on open-world games so never got into Vice City or San Andreas, and had zero interest in GTA IV or V. I played the hell out of RDR, but felt like the game was constantly inconveniencing me in all sorts ways in order to try to keep it real and all. I liked the story, I loved the world, that famous moment of Jose Gonzalez's song coming out as you first hit Mexico was utterly amazing and one of my all-time great "music in games" moments, and then the game decided to make me herd @#$!!! cattle yet again, and I put it down and never went back. I eventually watched the apparently "best ending ever" on YouTube and shrugged, because I didn't care.

I suspect I'll hit a wall on RDR II, just because there's something about how seriously Rockstar takes itself that eventually grates on me. It's just beautiful to look at most definitely, but, as I've gotten older, I have less and less patience for holding down the A button while I cinematically ride my horse across the snow for a while and stare at scenery porn, waiting for the opportunity to, you know, play.

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Yeah, RDR2 doubles down on everything RDR1 was going for. I admit that in a general sense I probably like RDR1 more overall. I 100%'d, even. RDR2 I really appreciated, but once I finished the story I put it down.

At the same time, I think about it a lot, and I frequently toy with the idea of playing both of them again back to back.

Not back to front? Since 2 is a prequel?

I've been astonished at how much the game expects you know about who is who and events of some previous title. Im not even sure what title that would be. Red Dead Revolver?

They'll tell me over and over again exactly how to waggle my stick to get a fish to bite but if anyone actually said what happened in Blackwater to drive the entire rest of the plot, I've 100% forgotten what that was.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I tried the new "Riding A Horse Slowly Through The Snow Simulator" game last night for the first time, and was kind of bored.

That is exactly why I stopped playing it on PS4 and why I no longer have it on PS4 anymore. Now that I have it on Xbone X from game pass I’m debating whether I want to go through all that slow intro again to see if there is a game somewhere on the other side that is fun to me.

Younger me would have been far more willing to meander through this game. I loved RDR1 and played every side quest I could.

I haven’t started Witcher 3 yet and think if I decided to play a long open world game again my time would be better spent there. Am I wrong?

I've been sitting on Witcher 3 for ages, and am considering playing that instead, in large part because I keep hearing people referring to Assassin's Creed: Odyssey as very similar to it, and, well, I loved that. I'll probably give RDR 2 another shot for a few nights, but doubt I'd make it through it entirely.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I've been sitting on Witcher 3 for ages, and am considering playing that instead, in large part because I keep hearing people referring to Assassin's Creed: Odyssey as very similar to it, and, well, I loved that. I'll probably give RDR 2 another shot for a few nights, but doubt I'd make it through it entirely.

I wouldn’t really say too similar. The Witcher 3 is definitely more of a deep RPG. What they do share is a multipart quest structure. It’s an absolutely wonderful thing in both games. The Witcher 3 takes it further than any game I’ve ever played.

Oh good lord you guys haven’t played Witcher 3? That makes me part sad but also excited that you get to experience it fresh. Most amazing game I’ve ever played.

And I really wanted to like RDR2, I liked the mood but just couldn’t stick with it.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I've been sitting on Witcher 3 for ages, and am considering playing that instead, in large part because I keep hearing people referring to Assassin's Creed: Odyssey as very similar to it, and, well, I loved that.

Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a lot like Witcher 3 except that it's good.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I've been sitting on Witcher 3 for ages, and am considering playing that instead, in large part because I keep hearing people referring to Assassin's Creed: Odyssey as very similar to it, and, well, I loved that.

Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a lot like Witcher 3 except that it's good.

Sick burn.

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Docjoe wrote:

Oh good lord you guys haven’t played Witcher 3? That makes me part sad but also excited that you get to experience it fresh. Most amazing game I’ve ever played.

I loved Witcher 1 and expect I’ll enjoy Witcher 3 but I have a terrible habit of getting distracted and never coming back to any game that takes a while to finish and isn’t coop with friends. Knowing that about myself I’ve been avoiding starting it until some mythical future time when I can really commit myself to playing and finishing it. That time has never come and yet I’ve played thousands of hours of video games since that decision so obviously I’m crazy.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a lot like Witcher 3 except that it's good.

After AC 1 and 2 I decided I’d never play an AC game again. I’ve heard they are a lot different these days so I might have to reconsider. AC Odyssey is pretty cheap on Epic right now. But it’s a long game and isn’t coop so...same problem.