Xbox Game Pass for Console, PC, and Android

Pink Stripes wrote:

Now that Forza is on PC, pretty much the only reason I'd buy an Xbox is if it would effectively work as an HTPC and I could seamlessly load my saves and switch between the console and the PC. If they do that and they can also make the platform run on devices like the Steam Deck or ROG Ally, and also have streaming on mobile (not my thing but some people use it) then maybe that's a more attractive proposition as a "play anywhere" platform with minimal frictions.

FYI: Any game that shows "Play anywhere" supports PC and Xbox cross buy and saves. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, Microsoft titles support it. There is a filtered list here:

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbo...

LeapingGnome wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

I like Xbox because it was the first US-made console

The original Xbox was made in Hungary and Mexico, FWIW. The current gen are made in China.

You know what I meant!

It didn't have weird Capcom or Namco or SEGA or Nintendo stuff at launch. It had Halo! That game was as Murrica as anything has ever been, outside of maybe Duke Nukem. And certainly at launch.

(And I say that as someone whose favorite system of all time was the Dreamcast and who sold tons of them at work because it was so weird!)

Definitely describing why I had little to no interest in the original Xbox.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Now that Forza is on PC, pretty much the only reason I'd buy an Xbox is if it would effectively work as an HTPC and I could seamlessly load my saves and switch between the console and the PC. If they do that and they can also make the platform run on devices like the Steam Deck or ROG Ally, and also have streaming on mobile (not my thing but some people use it) then maybe that's a more attractive proposition as a "play anywhere" platform with minimal frictions.

I do that now for some titles, albeit I use cloud streaming for when I play on the Steam Deck. Works great switching between PC and Series X for No Mans Sky.

It isn't hard to see why MS might get out of the console making business.

PS5 has outsold Xbox Series X/S 2-1, data suggests

Own IPs and developers. That is where they can make money.

Their console is a delivery mechanism for their products and services, and for anyone that pays for placement. No one else can gatekeep them there. Like the FireTVs, it makes sense to keep making them.

I had original Xbox for Halo. I was a massive Bungie fan. The 360 was fantastic as well. I had no interest in PlayStation games (or at least that’s what I told myself.) After the 360 I was definitely going Xbox One until the reveal and that years E3. After a lot of thought I reluctantly decided to go PlayStation for the next generation. It was at that point that I admitted to myself that I was actually quite keen to play one or two PlayStation games.

GWJGPT, please summarize this overly long video in 100 words or less

They are going to release games on other systems but will still make an Xbox of some kind.

4 exclusive games are going to other consoles, but not Starfield, and also not Indiana Jones. They are letting the studios responsible for the games announce them. Phil specifically pointed out this is kind of a "trojan horse" strategy (not his exact words, but that's the gist).

Diablo 4 on Game Pass March 28! Other ABK games are coming to Game Pass too. (World of Warcraft, please?)

One of the execs also mentioned there are no plans to put Game Pass on more platforms. I recall a news item last year about Game Pass being available on more platforms, but that was just a silly rumor.

I kind of skimmed the 2nd half of the video, so if there was anything important there, I may have missed it. As soon as they started speaking exclusively in corporatese, my mind started wandering.

Turns out the Internet overreacted! What a surprise!

I do think we’ll continue to see a shift away from exclusives over time but I’m not surprised that Microsoft is making a gradual shift not a radical one.

The way Spencer described the approach, it seems really reasonable. They're not putting console-selling exclusives on other platforms. He mentioned that two of the games already have a large audience, and they want to expand that audience on other platforms. Makes sense, if the audience is already saturated. He said the other two games were smaller titles, sort of intimating that making them available elsewhere wouldn't hurt the hardware business at all.

I don't think they're moving away from exclusives at all. That was an entirely fictional rumor-based narrative. Spencer reiterated that exclusives are an important part of the health of the Xbox business.

Diablo 4 on Game Pass March 28!

Awesome! I've been holding out buying in hope that I'd get it for 'free' later!

The games I saw on a site summarizing things were Sea of Thieves, Penitent, Grounded, and Hi-Fi Rush, which I don't think are really going to move the needle a whole lot.

It's not like MS doesn't have games like Minecraft that you can play everywhere. So this isn't a "change" as much as it is an extension of current business practices similar to what they've done with acquired games.

I thought was reasonable, especially since they're trailing market share in this console cycle.

The other note about the shared games is it reminds me of most Sony's PC releases. They're all year old games. They may not be going to a day and date simultaneous release to all platforms model. Sounds like a timed exclusive model.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The games I saw on a site summarizing things were Sea of Thieves, Penitent, Grounded, and Hi-Fi Rush, which I don't think are really going to move the needle a whole lot.

They didn’t specify the games during the podcast, so unless some info was released later, that’s more speculation.

There seems to be some sort of evidence though. I don’t care about any of the games apart from Pentiment. I finally want to own that game which was my GOTY 2022. I am happy that more people get to enjoy it now.

The four games certainly all make more sense than some stuff that was being suggested last week in rumors.

BadKen wrote:

4 exclusive games are going to other consoles, but not Starfield, and also not Indiana Jones.

Diablo 4 on Game Pass March 28! Other ABK games are coming to Game Pass too. (World of Warcraft, please?)

I kind of skimmed the 2nd half of the video, so if there was anything important there, I may have missed it. As soon as they started speaking exclusively in corporatese, my mind started wandering.

To clarify slightly, this isn’t quite what Phil said. The first four games do not include Starfield or Indiana Jones. But they could certainly be added later. Heck, Indiana Jones doesn’t even come out until late this year, so it’s possible it could even be a day 1 ps5 release, and Phil’s statement still wouldn’t be a lie (although I really doubt this will happen).

I, too, would love WoW coming to Game Pass! I can’t play enough to commit to a sub, but dabbling every once in a while would be nice. I’m worried it’ll be a significantly restricted version though. Still, I’m interested in trying D4 too, so nice news.

The second half was pretty generic, but I did find it somewhat reassuring. They were basically trying to show that their history of efforts in game tech and consumer friendly policies they’ve been championing (cross play, cross save, cross progression, cross buy, etc) support their statements that they want to respect the commitments that Xbox players have made in their ecosystem. I actually agree with that, and found it reassuring. I play all systems and strongly believe keeping Xbox as a viable competitor is better for gaming consumers, as they’re pushing for many consumer friendly policies (since they’re in last place, but still).

Also, tech will not be ready for an all-streaming future by next gen (which is probably only 3-4 years away?) that could compete with the fidelity of a local box. Heck, I’m not sure that will ever happen… but at least they’re planning one more next gen high fidelity local console.

BadKen wrote:

Diablo 4 on Game Pass March 28! Other ABK games are coming to Game Pass too. (World of Warcraft, please?)

I want them to restart active Heroes of the Storm development, with Master Chief, the Dovahkiin, and Raz from Psychonauts in the first wave of new heroes...

As for the cross-platform titles, putting Sea of Thieves on multiple platforms makes sense for the same reason why they put Fallout 76 in Sony's game subscription: live service games want a lot of players, so its good for them to be as accessible as possible.

The other titles they mentioned going multiplatform all seem in line with their earlier ports, like when they released Ori on the Switch.

steinkrug wrote:

The four games certainly all make more sense than some stuff that was being suggested last week in rumors.

For sure. Similar for Brainsmith's love for Pentiment, I'm just happy more people are going to get to play Hi-Fi Rush. That's my favorite game I've played on Game Pass since Outer Wilds.

Dyni wrote:
steinkrug wrote:

The four games certainly all make more sense than some stuff that was being suggested last week in rumors.

For sure. Similar for Brainsmith's love for Pentiment, I'm just happy more people are going to get to play Hi-Fi Rush. That's my favorite game I've played on Game Pass since Outer Wilds.

Those are the two games I’m excited to play.

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Boltgun was good. I bought on Steam and mostly played it on Steam Deck. Works well with a controller so should be great on Xbox.

Ah, I can see just how terrible the Bluey video game is without having to spend any (more) of my own money...

Vargen wrote:

Ah, I can see just how terrible the Bluey video game is without having to spend any (more) of my own money...

Hooray!

Vargen wrote:

Ah, I can see just how terrible the Bluey video game is without having to spend any (more) of my own money...

For real life?!

I get to give another Tales of game a chance.

Tales of Arise?!!