[Discussion] The 2018 Midterms Catch-All

News and discussion related to the 2018 midterms.

mudbunny wrote:

So, as a Canadian, can someone tell me what it means, politically, that the House has flipped from Republican Control to Democratic control?

It means that the legislative branch would be split. Think of the US Senate as the upper house with 2 Senators per state and the US House as the lower house with representation based on population.

It basically means gridlock, because neither half of the legislative branch will concur with the other's bills. And Cheeto can't do deals because he's incapable of compromise.

Also, the US House would have subpeona power to do all kinds of stuff to investigate/oversight/troll the Trump administration. This is because the Republicans threw out the old rules and never thought the shoe would be on the other foot.

On the positive side, at least half of the legislative branch will now be fulfilling its Constitutional obligation to be a check on the executive branch.

I think it's not dissimilar to Westminster in how lower house has to first pass a bill for the senate to approve. So basically if Ds take the house, Senate can't do anything. Although keep watching those Executive Orders when legislation cannot be passed.

Bfgp wrote:

I think it

Well, I think it isn't!

Chaz wrote:
Bfgp wrote:

I think it

Well, I think it isn't!

Ever since this Pixel 2 updated the darn thumbs keep hitting post prematurely!

Here's Corey Robin on the historical parallels with 1978 and the coming societal change:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CoreyRobi...

Still stuck with f*cking Zodiac Ted.

3 GOP incumbents all held their seats here in NC. Ugh.

Looks like the horrible Marsy's law and a couple other bad amendments passed too. Wording on those is so shady.

As a Canadian looking at the election maps, I can't help but shake my head in disbelief. Louisiana, Alabama and Florida each have that one blue district that reaches statewide to encompass both major cities. That's at least 3 seats the Dems don't get due to ludicrous gerrymandering. US elections make my head spin. I also don't get how/why the senate seats and a lot of the governor seats go Red in states where it seems like the political will of the people is blue. Ooo I see they managed to get Austin and San Antonio into one district too.

Ohio results -

Republican wins: 12 out of 16 US House seats, 63 out of 99 State House seats, 10 out of 17 State Senate races (with one still too close to call), Governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, Auditor, Treasurer.

Democratic wins: US Senator wins re-election. (The other Senator, who isn't up this cycle, is Republican.)

And they say Ohio is a swing state? Really?

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

(And to Homard: Toledo and Cleveland are both in the same district as well. Redistricting happens every 10 years - it's due in 2020. There have been a couple reforms passed in the meantime but we'll see if they actually have any impact on the outcome.)

Also, for those who missed the reference, because Quote is not Edit:

MN Democrats pretty roundly swept their state and national elections.

So, that’s something, I guess.

Homard wrote:

As a Canadian looking at the election maps, I can't help but shake my head in disbelief. Louisiana, Alabama and Florida each have that one blue district that reaches statewide to encompass both major cities. That's at least 3 seats the Dems don't get due to ludicrous gerrymandering. US elections make my head spin. I also don't get how/why the senate seats and a lot of the governor seats go Red in states where it seems like the political will of the people is blue. Ooo I see they managed to get Austin and San Antonio into one district too.

It’s simple gerrymandering. It’s exactly how a minority party ends up with a majority representation. GOP redistricts to their advantage, it gets challenged, works its way through the courts in a few years, but the damage has been done and those maps were used in the election that got their majority elected. When that redistricting map is ruled on as being incorrect by a judge, it takes a few more sessions where the GOP drags their feet, finally comes up with a new map that is only slightly better (or in some cases, worse) and the whole process repeats itself. Take a good look at Texas, Florida, North Carolina... heck, really any southern state for a guideline on gaming the system successfully. It’s a craptacular system that absolutely allows a minority rule - which is, um, the opposite of democracy.

Reaper81 wrote:

MN Democrats pretty roundly swept their state and national elections.

So, that’s something, I guess.

Maine did as well. The 2nd district is still up in the air but the Dems got full control of the state government.

Reaper81 wrote:

MN Democrats pretty roundly swept their state and national elections.

So, that’s something, I guess.

Eh, not entirely, but they did do well. Definitely not the wave I had hoped for.

I gotta give myself props for predicting this exact outcome way back in February of 2017.

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Missouri is so f*cked up. We passed a new minimum wage, medical pot, and a new campaign finance law that has the Republicans freaking out. Then we send f*cking Josh Hawley to the senate. I just don't get it.

But progress was made tonight. The House needs to use their power to investigate the p[resident and the GOP and start fixing the mess that got us here. There is a ton of work left to do, but tonight was a step in the right direction. The Senate was never a real possibility tonight, although losing McCaskill really sucked.

On another note, seriously, what the f*ck is it with Texas and Ted Cruz? Is half the state really that brain dead? Republican House members don't even want him around, he's too creepy to elect to a school board, and after acting like a macho douche, he proceeded to lick Trump's boots. There are so many good reasons to hate Texas, but voting Cruz into office has to be way up on the list. I don't see how he wins a primary.

Jayhawker wrote:

On another note, seriously, what the f*ck is it with Texas and Ted Cruz? Is half the state really that brain dead? Republican House members don't even want him around, he's too creepy to elect to a school board, and after acting like a macho douche, he proceeded to lick Trump's boots. There are so many good reasons to hate Texas, but voting Cruz into office has to be way up on the list. I don't see how he wins a primary.

They’re just afraid to draw the ire of the Zodiac Killer.

Edit: Way late to the party. Wasn’t quite the blue wave I hoped for, but definitely a start.

mudbunny wrote:

So, as a Canadian, can someone tell me what it means, politically, that the House has flipped from Republican Control to Democratic control?

A brief speedbump on our downward slide to American Fascism while the rich move all their money offshore so they can move somewhere nicer when the economy collapses or civil war breaks out.

The house ended up smack dab in the middle of polling projections, we flipped a bunch of governors mansions, and we secured a few state houses. It’s unfortunate that a few of the senate coin flips came down against us but I’m not exactly despondent about the results. Given the level of gerrymandering we were up against taking the house is a damn good result.

Texans believe if they don’t elect ted Cruz, the apocalypse will happen.

This is not much of an exaggeration. I heard this exact sentiment in several interviews before and after the election.

Never mind that climate change will bring an apocalypse to Texan grazing and farmland before millenials’ kids are grown. Democrats are the problem I guess.

Seth wrote:

Texans believe if they don’t elect ted Cruz, the apocalypse will happen.

This is not much of an exaggeration. I heard this exact sentiment in several interviews before and after the election.

Never mind that climate change will bring an apocalypse to Texan grazing and farmland before millenials’ kids are grown. Democrats are the problem I guess.

As a Texan here, the GOP’s playbook of fear, isolationism, guns, and Jesus (the Jew and the Hispanic) are big points for so many people who just don’t care to critically think through any of the issues and how they actually affect them. So many people here just walk in, vote straight ticket and leave. Absolutely depressing. I mean, I know my parents voted GOP which is absolutely against their interests as it concerns health care and many of my coworkers, who are pension and (the rare) union members in this state did the same by voting GOP.

It’s mind boggling that they’ll absolutely override their own personal welfare for things like ‘immigration’ that certainly do not affect them at all.

Yeah. Living in a southern state I can fully attest to that line of thinking being prevalent. There is absolutely no hearing of anything other than R or D and go [email protected]&# the Ds.

qaraq wrote:

Going to vote first thing in the morning of course, but here in MA no candidates I can vote for are going to affect much. My US Rep (Kennedy) and both state legislators are unopposed, Warren's going to walk away with it, and the Dem has no chance for governor. We do have a ballot question about nurse staffing levels that IMO has no business on the ballot because it's way too technical, but I expect I'll vote for it because the unions are for it.

I know election day is over and not to get to into the weeds here, but I work in healthcare and am glad to see that didn't pass. While the idea of increasing staffing is laudable and needed in the long term it was so rigid, rapid and punitive "out of the box" it would have been a killer for small community hospitals, and really harmful to outpatient care like SNFs and visiting nurse systems who would lose a bunch of staff. Even though those nurses may not be the best qualified to handle the acute setting.
While I expected the legislature to massage the Mass bill a bit, the California implementation was extremely flexible and gave a ton of lead up time in comparison.

lunchbox12682 wrote:
Reaper81 wrote:

MN Democrats pretty roundly swept their state and national elections.

So, that’s something, I guess.

Eh, not entirely, but they did do well. Definitely not the wave I had hoped for.

You are correct. I misread some results on MPR last night.

Reaper81 wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:
Reaper81 wrote:

MN Democrats pretty roundly swept their state and national elections.

So, that’s something, I guess.

Eh, not entirely, but they did do well. Definitely not the wave I had hoped for.

You are correct. I misread some results on MPR last night.

I was suprised at a few of the state house results. I did not expect Drew Christensen to lose. I even felt a little bad as he seemed like a very dedicated rep over the years.

The long arc of history bends toward justice.

Politico wrote:

The midterms offered redundant evidence (some GOP strategists have been warning of this for a generation) that the party’s base is predominately rural in a country growing more urban and suburban, predominately white and culturally conservative in a country growing more diverse and culturally tolerant. Do Republicans really think that losing a majority of people who voted – as they did in 2016 and did again Tuesday night – but clinging to power through institutions designed to buffer democracy like the Senate and Electoral College is a wise strategy long-term?

Keldar wrote:

Ohio results -

Republican wins: 12 out of 16 US House seats, 63 out of 99 State House seats, 10 out of 17 State Senate races (with one still too close to call), Governor, Attorney General, Secretary of State, Auditor, Treasurer.

Democratic wins: US Senator wins re-election. (The other Senator, who isn't up this cycle, is Republican.)

And they say Ohio is a swing state? Really?

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Yes it makes me ashamed to live here. You pretty much have the rural vs urban divide in voting but the gerrymandering makes an outsized impact. Rural people are the ones hurt the most by current Republican policies, why are they so f*cking ignorant!

My lukewarm take is that this election feels like getting 1 star out of 3 on a puzzle game level. We did what we needed to do but didn't get any of the extra objectives.

It's awesome that we have so many young, diverse, and energized Democrats and that's going to be a great base to build on. On the other side, the fascists learned that racial fearmongering works and that voter suppression does the job. It's a weird sign of hope though that while they cheated to win, they had to cheat to win.

imbiginjapan wrote:
qaraq wrote:

We do have a ballot question about nurse staffing levels that IMO has no business on the ballot because it's way too technical, but I expect I'll vote for it because the unions are for it.

I know election day is over and not to get to into the weeds here, but I work in healthcare and am glad to see that didn't pass.

Thanks for that. I'm not at all upset that it didn't pass; I hope something gets fixed but if this was the wrong thing then maybe the next thing will be better.

Jayhawker wrote:

Missouri is so f*cked up. We passed a new minimum wage, medical pot, and a new campaign finance law that has the Republicans freaking out. Then we send f*cking Josh Hawley to the senate. I just don't get it.

I was also disappointed to see the gas tax failed, but I totally expected that. I don't think I've seen any tax increase of any kind pass here ever. Our local schools have failed to increase their tax levy three times. Hey Missourians, you know why your infrastructure is getting kind of run down and shabby? It's because you refuse to %$#@! pay for anything.

I have a lot of extended family down in southwest Missouri, and they are all predominantly small town, lower middle class folks. Their social/economic status is almost entirely ignored by the Republican party, and yet they all vote straight R every single time. My aunt declared that she wouldn't vote for McCaskill because she "didn't like the way she looks." I'm baffled.

On the plus side, our local state house race appears to have gone to the Democratic candidate. The margin of victory is 93 votes though. I'm guessing that's headed to a recount.