2019 NBA Catch-All - It’s Fantastic

Rat Boy wrote:

Forget about not playing for the Warriors for the rest of the series or the next season, Durant may not play for anybody for the next year and a half.

and he may no be the same again. This sucks.

Rat Boy wrote:

And there goes Durant.

Edit: Oof, stay off your social media, Canadian Goodjers.

I apologize for bringing social media IN, but holy sh*t. Jurassic Park cheered and waved too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...

DSGamer wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

And there goes Durant.

Edit: Oof, stay off your social media, Canadian Goodjers.

I apologize for bringing social media IN, but holy sh*t. Jurassic Park cheered and waved too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...

Fun fact: Canadians aren't actually more polite. We're just like anybody else.

Shams says it was his Achilles. Just... *sigh*.

Well, these finals will make an amazing podcast.

Chris Carter has been harping for weeks that there’s no reason Durant should play because of the calf-strain A
achilles connection. So I’m not surprised it’s an Achilles injury.

The truth is that no-one should take any shots at KD ever again.

But, fans are garbage, so they will.

As someone watching from home, I did not cheer when KD went down. My initial reaction was "Oh no, not again." accompanied by a sinking feeling. I don't know why people cheered, other than they're jerks.

Hope Durant bounces back, it's disturbing to me that he went and played when he really shouldn't have. And that's not on him, but more on everyone around him and the pressure placed upon him.

Amusingly this morning on Philly sports radio the talk was all about how much worse Toronto sports fans are than Philly fans and that we had to hear about it for years after cheering Irvin’s career ending neck injury.

One host speculated that Philly fans would not have cheered Durant’s injury (seriously he said that).

We gotta give you something, Philly. Enjoy.

I think that once they came to their senses they were respectful. I think chants of "KD" even rang out as he left the court.

Drake had the proper reaction, so at least he can do some things right...

First off he has a KD tattoo

Second off probably a good idea not to touch people doing their job still?

Eh there is plenty to jump on Drake for but I don't think this is one of them. If you see many 'helped off' injuries or when players fall near the sidelines there are almost always fans patting the player on the back or arm or similar, what he did is not that outside the normal except maybe he took a step onto the court to do it.

What do you guys think KD does next? I think he'll opt in with the Warriors and basically make $30 million rehabbing. But if he stays in GS the ripple effects on free agency will be really interesting.

mindset.threat wrote:

What do you guys think KD does next? I think he'll opt in with the Warriors and basically make $30 million rehabbing. But if he stays in GS the ripple effects on free agency will be really interesting.

For sure it will be interesting. The conventional wisdom is that some team (and probably still the Knicks) will max him out even with the injury. In the hopes of locking up a top 10 all time player who could magically recover, but maybe worse case remakes his game as a slightly more athletic Dirk. This feels right to me.

Staying with the Warriors would be an interesting story, but I still don’t think they should have cleared him. There will be a thermonuclear amount of hot takes in the coming months, so I apologize for adding to it, but I don’t think GS would have cleared him or played him if they knew he was coming back.

So if I’m Durant I wouldn’t feels so great about going back to GS. It would be basically them wrecking your career and then getting to take advantage of that by picking you up on a discount.

On the other hand a team like the Knicks will likely offer the max and all the years and he can go get a fresh start, free of all the baggage and expectations that came with this Golden State situation.

Now my personal hot take.

In a more normal employment situation (not professional sports) the right thing for all parties would be for him to stay, I think.

Golden State management would apologize to him for running him out there. Durant would recognize that the year to year contracts put the team into a weird position and helped create the cloud hovering over the team this season.

They’d make up and he’d realize that he’s a better fit in GS and it’s his best chance to keep winning. He’d sign a long term contract enough under the max to make sure they can re-sign Klay and Green with the understanding that he’s going to be a Warrior for life and will basically be an employee of the franchise as long as he wants to be.

This is what franchises like Dallas and Miami do. You can see it as a crappy way of circumventing the salary cap, but it makes complete sense for a business and an employee to make an open-ended long term commitment to each other if they’re a good fit culturally, etc. The salary cap obviously skews that.

That feels like the humane thing to do for all involved. Just to admit that the salary structure of land incentives of NBA deals puts pressure on everyone. Take slightly less money, recover in the better basketball situation and make up for a bad situation.

And with that my hot take tank is exhausted.

AKA the Cousins arrangement

boogle wrote:

AKA the Cousins arrangement

Not exactly the same. Similar in taking a discount for a better basketball situation. Different in that they know what they are getting with Durant and can make a long term commitment.

Just my take but I think he opts out and gets the max to secure his money for the next 4-5 years. He is not going to be in a better situation after missing a year than he is today, in a year there will be more of a 'prove it' vibe with people cautious to take a chance on him. Right now the memory of his play is still fresh and teams are still excited to get him. I think if he opts-in, rehabs for a year, and then becomes a free agent he would sign for 1-2 years somewhere on a below-max deal to show what his recovered game is and hope he shows enough to get the max after.

Just based on his previous interviews over the years of wanting to be challenged and always be growing, I don't think he re-signs in Golden State. I think he sees it as he has done all he can there and he is ready for a new challenge. Of course that is just interview words, who knows how he really feels and maybe these days he prioritizes comfort and familiarity more.

The New York Daily News' headline today was "Knicks Lose Game 5" and I mean.... LOL

Interesting point made here

https://slate.com/culture/2019/06/ke...

After the 2018 season, the Warriors’ “head of physical performance and sports medicine” Chelsea Lane left the organization, reportedly because she wanted to be paid more than the team was willing to spend. Her replacement, Rick Celebrini, has an “impressive resume” and came recommended by team consultant Steve Nash, whom Celebrini worked with while Nash was becoming a two-time MVP in his 30s. But ESPN’s Rachel Nichols reported after Monday’s game that according to Warriors coach Steve Kerr, team doctors said that Durant “couldn’t get more hurt” by returning to action. Unless Durant’s right Achilles injury was completely unrelated to his right calf injury, it would appear that either the doctors were wrong or Kerr didn’t understand them correctly. (A doctor employed by another team told Bleacher Report’s Howard Beck that, as one might imagine, the calf injury could have made Durant more susceptible to hurting his Achilles. Incidentally, another Warriors forward, Kevon Looney, reaggravated an earlier injury on Monday.)

So has anybody ever recovered well from a torn Achilles?

I'm pretty bummed about Durant's injury. I was selfishly hoping he wouldn't come back because that would give the Raptors a better chance to close this out (and the "well that improves Toronto's chances" thought did cross my mind when I saw him get injured last night). For him to come back, play great, and then get a career-altering injury sucks. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do on a different team next year — I basically didn't start following non-Raptors NBA stuff until 2016 so I've only really seen him on the Warriors and that wasn't too exciting to watch.

Boogie

This is the best reference I have found so far. It's not good.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/1/...

Boogie is indeed the latest big time player and a close comp in terms of someone due a big contract. Big difference, though, is that Durant is a better outside shooter and might have an easier recovery.

Roke wrote:

So has anybody ever recovered well from a torn Achilles?

I'm pretty bummed about Durant's injury. I was selfishly hoping he wouldn't come back because that would give the Raptors a better chance to close this out (and the "well that improves Toronto's chances" thought did cross my mind when I saw him get injured last night). For him to come back, play great, and then get a career-altering injury sucks. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do on a different team next year — I basically didn't start following non-Raptors NBA stuff until 2016 so I've only really seen him on the Warriors and that wasn't too exciting to watch.

According to a couple NYC radio guys (Michael Kay / Don Lo Greca) I had on yesterday, Dominique Wilkins is the only NBA player to ever put up the same stats and playing time, post achilles tear. Hopefully KD can buck the trend.

Game related: NBA 2k19 is $2.99 digitally on all platforms at the moment. Very worth it, IMO.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Game related: NBA 2k19 is $2.99 digitally on all platforms at the moment. Very worth it, IMO.

I wondered if that was Switch only since some reviews were mixed there.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to play a few games. But from what I heard they monetized the hell out of my player so much that it's not fun anymore

I disagree with the idea that the game is less fun due to monetization. No time to get deep into it now, but there is plenty to do that doesn’t involve VC, and even people who buy VC to spend on MyPlayer can only improve to an 85 overall. The rest is capped and must be unlocked by playing games.

I’ve also been playing on Switch the last two years and think it’s excellent. It did not take long to adjust to the lower spec after playing on PS4 for years previously.

From what I've read, 2K18 was really bad on the monetization front, but they cut way back for 2k19. I have 2k19 for the PC, and haven't put any real money in, but have really enjoyed playing in MyCareer mode nearly exclusively. I've read that the multiplayer MyCareer stuff is prone to rampant cheating on the PC, so if you want to spend anytime playing with other people another platform may be better. I'm all about the solo play though.

While I've been enjoying the grind through mycareer, you can get the same 'play as one person' fun while skipping the grind. Start up a MyLeague save and create a new player to match what you want to play, and then set up player lock where you only play as that character. It's pretty much the same game play as mycareer sans and storyline stuff and skill/badge grinding.

One thing that's pretty cool about NBA Live 19 is that it's MyPlayer mode is fantastic. Really, it's better than than 2K's. There's plenty of ways to play solo, and the multiplayer modes for The One are really well done. Court Battles is one of the most underrated modes in all of sports games. And there is zero monetization of The One.

Also, if you have EA Access, it's free. And if you don't, the game is first cheap at this point. If you need a franchise mode, 2K is what you need. If you want a MyCareer mode for basketball, NBA Live 19 is the answer.

I wonder if I can wait till this time next year to buy NBA20k for $2.99...

gamerparent wrote:

I wonder if I can wait till this time next year to buy NBA20k for $2.99...

Good point. I think next year is the year I finally do it. 2k19 didn't blow me away vs. 2k18.