The GWJ Adventure Game Club - Main Thread

Higgledy wrote:

This may be the first game I play via the Epic game store. That's if I don't watch Eleima's rerun streams of the game instead.

Same, loathe as I am to download yet another store's launcher. Free is hard to pass up.

Arise, thread! Today is the tenth, and that means... it’s giveaway day!!!
This month’s game is.... Kathy Rain!!!!

*Googles Kathy Rain*

Yeah, sorry, I meant to do a more elaborate post and that was a placeholder and will do so as soon as I’m back from the gym.

No problem. It has really nice Pixel animation by the looks of it.

So. Having just returned from seeing Catain Marvel, let me tell you about another ass kicking, motorcycle riding woman from the 90s:
IMAGE(https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/370910/header.jpg)
Kathy Rain is strong-minded journalism student who returns to her hometown after the recent death of her grandfather. As she uncovers old keepsakes, she starts unearthing more about her own troubled past and starts to realize that her grandfather's death might not have been from natural causes.
I played this back in June 2016 and had a good time with it. It's pretty short (~4 hours), and it's a solid, classic adventure game. Definitely worth taking a look at.
So who has been chosen by the RNG? We'll find out tonight!! And by "we", I mean all of you.

Looks like I won Kathy Rain [insert confetti popper emoji] Fantastic!! Many thanks. It does look like an incredibly well done, old school adventure game.

ARISE THREAD!!
As I prepare the next poll for our upcoming April game, I do have a question to submit to you folks. We need to talk about Gemini Rue. That game has come up quite a few times, and it's never received more than three votes. The last time, it received two, and before that, only one nod. Do we still want to keep it on our list of candidates? Should we come up with a system to remove games from our candidate list? I'm very conflicted on this issue.
But coming back to Gemini Rue, it got nods from RnRClown, mrlogical and myself. I'm of a mind to take my nod back.
Opinions? Suggestions? I'll take them all!

Since we all love intricate voting systems, we could vote for which game should leave our island. Until only one remains...

Guess it makes sense to clean up the nominated list once in a while, so we dont end up with an endless list of games to vote on. Maybe if the list is above 10 (or whatever limit seems reasonable) games after the most recent vote, clean up the list based on who got fewest votes - that would be a simple way to handle it. If people want a game back on the list they can just nominate it again, so nothing is really lost.

Speaking only for myself, I just found Gemini Rue to be entirely too opaque for my taste. It's one of those where you have to pick your verb whenever you interact with an object (e.g., touch, look, talk, etc.) and I felt like I could never pair the right verb with the right object to make much headway. I'd get frustrated, look at a walkthough, and find out that I was doing the right thing but I was trying to interact with an object instead of, I dunno, lick it or whatever.

If I were going to play a Wadjet Eye game, I would go for a newer one in the hope that they've implemented a more context-sensitive interaction system like most modern adventure games.

I'm happy to retract my support: I think it's a cool game and worth playing, but I played it once to completion years ago and probably wouldn't re-play it if it were the selection, so yeah, let's give it the boot.

Okay, thanks gang. I've removed Gemini Rue from the list of candidates. I'll see how future polls go, but perhaps we can discuss the games that get very few votes as they come.
As it is, I've started readying the list of games for our next vote! All that's left to do is pick my pick! I'll have it up by the end of next week.

Is there a compelling reason to take things off beyond that they don't get much support and seem unlikely to ever win? Are they minor clutter, or problem causing clutter?

Well, I set a limit of 40 in the candidates pool and i don’t want to dilute it too much. So it’s kinda a clutter problem, but not a major one. The other issue is that it’s a shame to have a game people aren’t really enthusiastic about, I don’t want to lose steam.

Feels sensible to drop games if they don't stand a chance of being picked. Gemini Rue sounds like a game that was fantastic in it's day but that would be incredibly difficult to play and enjoy now.

Higgledy wrote:

Feels sensible to drop games if they don't stand a chance of being picked. Gemini Rue sounds like a game that was fantastic in it's day but that would be incredibly difficult to play and enjoy now.

It's funny because "in its day" really wasn't that long ago. It was a throwback to the '80s-'90s style of game, not actually one of those itself.

Oh yeah, Gemini Rue should be totally playable and enjoyable now (it's, what, 5 years old?). But if it's been on our ballot multiple times and never received more than one or two votes, it seems clear that people just aren't into it, which is fine.

Minarchist wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

Feels sensible to drop games if they don't stand a chance of being picked. Gemini Rue sounds like a game that was fantastic in it's day but that would be incredibly difficult to play and enjoy now.

It's funny because "in its day" really wasn't that long ago. It was a throwback to the '80s-'90s style of game, not actually one of those itself. :)

I keep being caught out by that. It feels like it was made a lot longer ago than it actually was.

Minarchist wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

Feels sensible to drop games if they don't stand a chance of being picked. Gemini Rue sounds like a game that was fantastic in it's day but that would be incredibly difficult to play and enjoy now.

It's funny because "in its day" really wasn't that long ago. It was a throwback to the '80s-'90s style of game, not actually one of those itself. :)

Eight years ago! Eight! That's, like, forever and a half ago!

But really, I can understand the confusion. It looks, plays, and feels like a game from the early '90s without any modernizations at all. I can imagine someone playing it and thinking it was a lost game from that era instead of a new one in its style.

Someone who actually played those unmodernized games (#getoffmylawn.com) would say that none of the puzzles in Gemini Rue were anywhere near as obtuse as cat mustaches or basically anything in Riven, but the point is taken nonetheless.

Also that weird cover shooter thing near the end...I dunno.

Minarchist wrote:

Someone who actually played those unmodernized games (#getoffmylawn.com) would say that none of the puzzles in Gemini Rue were anywhere near as obtuse as cat mustaches or basically anything in Riven, but the point is taken nonetheless.

Also that weird cover shooter thing near the end...I dunno.

Oh, man, don't get me started on Riven! Hahaha I have no idea just how I got through that... must've been only because it was the only other game aside from Fifa 98 that I owned and hadn't beaten on my psone at the time... and I was bedridden with my eponymous collar bone fracture hehehe.

I did play those unmodernized games #thankyouverymuch

I totally played those games back in the day. #thankyouverymuch Like back in 1987! Regardless (because this ain't a competition ), this is probably going to be a case by case basis, but if a game keeps getting no more than one or two votes... I feel completely justified in taking it off the candidates list. If you folks disagree, feel free to nominate it again.

That seems fair.

Minarchist wrote:

none of the puzzles in Gemini Rue were anywhere near as obtuse as cat mustaches

On second thought, I never really understood what the big whoop was about the cat hair mustache except that the article about it was funny, so my taste is questionable. Ignore me!

oh it is FAR from being the most egregious example of bizarre, convoluted adventure game logic.

Take Mystery of the Druids, for example!

*should timejump to the relevant spot (10min 50)

That seems like an amazing game. Obscure puzzles, yet the dialogue is spelling out the obvious on every possible occasion.

Oh no, there is no part two of the video. Guess I'll have to nominate the game.

The shoe puzzle near the beginning of the original Syberia comes to mind. There was basically no way you were solving that without a walkthrough.

Or the forest in Grim Fandango!

Shadout wrote:

Oh no, there is no part two of the video. Guess I'll have to nominate the game.

I actually can’t tell if you’re serious or not.

The survey for the sixth game is now live!! The poll will close at midnight on March 28th.
General descriptions below with playtime estimates from HLTB (How Long To Beat).

  • Full Throttle (1995, HLTB 5) - The third LucasArts game, and another Tim Schafer game, you follow Ben, the leader of a biker gang who has been framed for murder.
  • Syberia (2002, HLTB 10) - When the owner of a large toy company dies, lawyer Kate Walker must find her brother in get the affairs in order. He's not all that easy to find though, and her search takes her on quite the journey.
  • Memoria (2103, HLTB 9) - Two stories, two main characters, one epic experience: in Memoria, players travel through different time periods, while following two distinct protagonists: Sadja, a southern princess who wants to be a war hero, and Geron, a bird catcher who wants to lift the curse which plagues his fairy girlfriend.
  • Anchorhead (1998, HLTB ?) - Despite appearances, this isn't a Star Wars game. A Lovecraftian horror interactive fiction game, it takes place in New England, in an old, ancestral home where a ritual to summon a Great Old One is about to take place...
  • Contradiction - Spot the Liar! (2015, HLTB 7) - This is one of the few FMV games on our list, and it follows the investigation of Detective Inspector Frederick Jenks into the apparent suicide of Kate Vine in the small village of Edenton.
  • Gone Home (2013, HLTB 3) - Remember we played Tacoma last month? This is the developper's first game. You play a college student return home during break. But your parents moved since you left for college. The house is unfamiliar and no one's home. It's up to you to piece it all together.
  • Botanicula (2012, HLTB 4) - Charming puzzle game that will give you the warm fuzzies. Also available on iOS and Android, too!
  • Zork: Nemesis (1996, HLTB 6) - Travel through five mind-bending worlds to discover the ancient secret of Alchemy that will free the trapped souls from evil’s grip…Do you dare enter the Forbidden Lands? Beyond a doubt, my favorite adventure game of all time.
  • Tales from the Borderlands (2014, HLTB 10) - One of Telltale's masterpieces set in the Borderlands universe. If you didn't enjoy the shooters, rest easy, this is an altogether different beast. Humor around every corner and a soundtrack that will knock your socks off. You alternate between two playable characters, Rhys and Fiona! World-class, quality voice acting to boot. Available on Windows, PS3, PS4, XBox 360 and One, iOS and Android.
  • Eleima's Pick: Blackwell Legacy (2006, HLTB 3) - A young freelance writer is living in New York city when her aunt passes away. Her legacy isn't all she expected... I'm selecting this one as my pick, because those Blackwell games are just so good, and I really adore the characters to bits. With the games on iOS as well as Steam, there's no excuse not to play them!

To the pollmobile, everyone!