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Totally agreed, I rewatched all of Deadwood earlier this year and it is so incredible. I am so excited for the movie, although I'm not entirely sure when I might watch it... It feels like something to save for a special occasion or something.

I explained the other day at work that when I craft a complex sentence that presenters struggle to say, Deadwood is a major part of the cause.

The movie is not everything I wanted. What I'd have wanted was another decade or so of the characters and their world. But it is more than I ever expected, and offers beautiful farewells, and was a delight throughout. I was wistful but thrilled, and cheered more than once. It opens exactly the way it should and ends the same. I think it makes for a lovely coda for its creator.

Top two time jump reveals:

Spoiler:

Wu the Younger, and Reverend Con Stapleton

Also, keep an eye out for a very amusing insider-joke cameo.

Yeah, Deadwood movie was perfect. There were so many brilliant conversations between characters. It puts in stark contrast how bleh the Red Dead 2 writing is.

Deadwood the movie was great. I'm not sure if you haven't watched the series if you will like it as much. No need to watch the series to have a understanding on what is going on but a deeper appreciation of the situations.

I just saw it today too and really enjoyed it!

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Deadwood the movie was great. I'm not sure if you haven't watched the series if you will like it as much. No need to watch the series to have a understanding on what is going on but a deeper appreciation of the situations.

I could be the test case for this. Never saw the show.

Maybe I could try the movie first

Stele wrote:
Baron Of Hell wrote:

Deadwood the movie was great. I'm not sure if you haven't watched the series if you will like it as much. No need to watch the series to have a understanding on what is going on but a deeper appreciation of the situations.

I could be the test case for this. Never saw the show.

Maybe I could try the movie first

Well the movie does spoil a few of the bigger moments of the series, so keep that in mind!

I watched the show but that was when it came out so other than Al Swearingen's long soliloquy while getting a blow job, I can't recall much about it. Maybe I should read a summary before watching the movie.

I re-watched all of Deadwood via 3AM viewings during the peak sleepless period of my now 6-month old son's life (so, like, January-February) and holy hell is it still great. Totally worth watching again, it's just as great as ever. I was so disappointed last night when, after having gone to great lengths to arrange my Sunday so that I'd have 2 hours free at night to watch the new movie, plans exploded and I wasn't able to watch. Next weekend, I hope! I will have to studiously avoid spoilers...

I haven't seen it yet, and while I watched and loved every episode of Deadwood, I don't think I have time to rewatch it all before diving into the movie.

The Vox.com review is positive, and the author suggests the movie might actually work well as a starting point, as long as you don't mind being spoiled on some of the outcomes.

You certainly don't need to go back and re watch all of the series, regardless of how long it's been. I tried reading a synopsis and got totally lost, so I just said screw it, I'll just watch the movie and hope for the best. The movie did a great job of making sure you understand why things were happening. At least that's how I felt.

Here is a link to a video recap of the series, that may be better then trying to read a synopsis. Obviously full of spoilers for the series, so keep that in mind if you haven't watched it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Qb...

Spoilers and Deadwood is a really interesting question...I've just found out as I was contemplating it. My first instinct was to say, since it's not what we'd call "real plot heavy," and much of it is rooted in history, the show might be spoiler-proof since so much of the pleasure is in the sumptuous dialogue and the characters and their relationships, and the ugly beauty of the thing. At the same time, I watched the show live...ish, I don't recall when I started, but anyways, I realized that I derived a lot of pleasure from the surprise in what the characters did, how they reacted, and how their relationships morphed and became and changed. There's a lot of tension in the chance that sudden violence can break out at any moment, and in how it sometimes gets avoided. That's how I enjoyed it and, well, I don't begrudge the spoiler averse anyway, it just seems like common courtesy, but I'd extra not begrudge someone who wanted to enjoy it the way I did.

Uh...follow your heart, I guess is my conclusion.

Embrace spoilers!

Not for everything. But don’t let being spoiled ruin what you want to watch.

Deadwood’s finale was over 15 years ago. If you have not watched it yet, was it really something you need to watch in complete purity?

Watch the film. It’s great as a stand alone. If it inspires you to watch the series, great! Now you will watch it like a documentary of the events leading up to whatever was spoiled. Like a doc, the feeling you get is a better understanding of an event by the context it is placed.

Most spoilers do not actually ruin a reveal, because they fail to tell the whole story. Some even enhance the enjoyment of a scene.

If you haven’t watched Deadwood after all this time, how long do you want to wait to watch the film, which is what you actually want to watch.

Never spoil stories for others! But if you get spoiled, roll with it.

I would advises people watch the first two seasons of Deadwood and stop. Season 3 is dumb, and the movie is a rehash of season 3.

Danjo Olivaw wrote:

Season 3 is dumb.

Holy crap could I not disagree more. Season 3 is the culmination of the camp building into a community (which is the underlying theme of this surprisingly optimistic show), it has one of the most brutal fight scenes in television history (Dan vs. The Captain), and it has my favorite romance in television history between Jane and Joanie. It ends abruptly and messily, but to quote the warrior-poet Dan Dority:

Going wrong is not the end of f**king things, Johnny. F**k no! I have come back from plenty of sh*t that looked like it was going wrong.

Deadwood is a beautiful show, beginning to end. It's a show that celebrated language with every single line of profane, Shakespearean dialogue. It's a show about building a civilization in the midst of chaos and brutality, about finding compassion in the most unlikely of places, and about people learning more about themselves in their devotion and love of others. It ended way too early, but there's not a single, solitary one of the 36 episodes that I'd miss.

As for whether or not you should watch the movie without seeing the series, I think you can, but why the hell would you? It's not going anywhere. I spent the last few months rediscovering this series, and when I sat down last night to watch the movie, it was the perfect end to that experience. I was a weepy wreck by the end, especially:

Spoiler:

Jane and Joanie brushing Charlie Udder's horse

or

Spoiler:

Seth Bullock saying goodbye to Samuel Fields

or

Spoiler:

Al and Jewel singing Waltzing Matilda

or

Spoiler:

Joanie touching Jane's arm and telling her that it wasn't Bill working through her, it was just her being a hero.

Skipping season 3 would mean missing Trixie's Grandma Hedgehog rant, so even if the rest of it didn't offer so, so, so many wonderful scenes and sequences, skipping it would still be a mistake.

Hot take: I like the theater people. Their story remains somewhat disconnected to the center, but their presence is fun, and in a story about community, it seems adding a sub-community somewhat apart from the rest makes sense.

Given the weekend to think on it, I also strongly disagree with the idea that the movie rehashes season 3. Incidents and conflicts are very similar, but they feel to me much more like echos and recastings of what happened previously given the decade the community trichy points out was being finalized throughout season 3 has had time to develop. Bullock does something in the movie he did in season 3, and while previously it was this frightening, intense moment where he's barely containing his rage, in the movie he's set and secure enough that it's almost a lark, and I f*cking loved it, one of many cheers I let out.

Ultimately, I think trichy has the right of it: movie's not going anywhere.

Jayhawker wrote:

Embrace spoilers!

Not for everything. But don’t let being spoiled ruin what you want to watch.

This. There are some works, especially lighter stuff, where the joy of the surprise is a much bigger piece of the enjoyment-pie. So beware spoilers in those cases. But Deadwood is very much the opposite, not light and not much reliant on plot surprises to deliver pleasure. I feel like savoring every muddy street, every monologue and curse, every slug of whiskey is the majority of that enjoyment pie. As with Hamlet, it doesn't much affect your enjoyment if someone tells you the ending beforehand.

Spoiler:

Everyone dies.

Haha SpacePPoliceman, I was just about to post "Season 3 is great, everything except the theater people!" On my recent re-watch, I didn't dislike the theater people, but it's certainly the most underbaked plot in light of the abrupt conclusion of the show, I feel like we never got enough of that plot to understand why it was around.

mrlogical wrote:

Haha SpacePPoliceman, I was just about to post "Season 3 is great, everything except the theater people!" On my recent re-watch, I didn't dislike the theater people, but it's certainly the most underbaked plot in light of the abrupt conclusion of the show, I feel like we never got enough of that plot to understand why it was around.

Apparently, Milch had big plans for the theater people for season 4. But the universe is a cold, amoral place, and we never got that.

The last episode of Chernobyl was perfect. Here's hoping for a second season! Just as long as they make it a little more grounded and less far-fetched with it's implausible misery porn next time.

kuddles wrote:

The last episode of Chernobyl was perfect. Here's hoping for a second season! Just as long as they make it a little more grounded and less far-fetched with it's implausible misery porn next time.

Ha!

Yeah the whole Chernobyl series was fantastic.

I am currently watching the second season of OA on netflix, and I am loving it!

Steamed Hams but it's Chernobyl. If you needed further confirmation that the show's now a pop culture phenomenon.

Man, I love this quirky show with way more heart than it deserves. The amount of mileage they have gotten out of metaphor of a clown trying to be normal, while trying desperately to be a professional clown is pretty amazing. It’s been a pretty great story arc for Chip Baskets and his family.

I finally watched the Deadwood movie over the weekend. I loved many things about it, but it did not quite live up to my (very high) expectations. There were incredible moments that I loved, but I was left feeling like the whole was less than the sum of its parts. Spoilers for details.

Spoiler:

Isn't the overall story of the movie basically the third season arc where Hearst has Ellsworth murdered? Hearst wants something, kills someone beloved by our heroes to get it (and/or to provoke our heroes into unwise action), and they find ways to deal with the fallout? And of course we know Trixie is impulsive, but holy hell, seeing Hearst come back to town and hopping outside to say "Hey! I attempted to murder you and tricked you into thinking I died for it, but I'm actually alive and well and am insulting you in public, so you should feel both cheated and humiliated, two things I know you are not likely to tolerate!" is so profoundly unwise, and having her attribute it to her impending baby didn't feel like a great justification. From a plot perspective, I didn't find a lot of this movie satisfying or necessary.

Of course, I still loved seeing all those actors at it again and thought there were so many beautiful moments between them, many of which you all cited earlier. And, having read about what Milch is dealing with in his personal life, Swearengen's scenes were particularly weighty. I loved watching this movie, but it feels like it's mostly a gift to the fans more than the long-awaited conclusion to the series that I'd heard talked about for, jeeze, almost 15 years? So glad it exists and I got to see it! But I don't think it compares that favorably to the rest of the series.

Watched euphoria pilot episode. Thought it was great. It needs some trigger warnings. 911, rape warnings, and a gross older dude young girl scene that I found scary. The show is about kids doing all types of bad things or getting caught up in bad things and how they navigate the world. Might scare you if you a teen kid.

The star is the girl from spiderman homecoming. Or maybe she is the co star because there are few people that might be on the same level of her. However, she narrates the entire show even the parts she isn't in.

Euphoria second episode was great. They really make great use of music. The acting is also great.

Legion still weird as F. Still liking it though.

I guess I missed it but The Rookie got renewed back in May. Just saw an article this weekend about the ABC fall schedule and it's moving to Sunday night at 10.