2018/19 Soccer Thread

The Liverpool v Barcelona match is fascinating. Liverpool most certainly are not second best but have been undone by one bit of skill which let Suarez through. Getting a little feisty towards the end of the first half and some unfortunate "exaggerated" falling going on too.

Two very good, well balanced teams going up against each other. More goals in the second half I reckon.

Edit: well more goals but unfortunately for Messi. I think he might just have put this beyond Liverpool unless they can get an away goal.

Edit edit: he definitely has now. Balls.

Messi. Good God.

When he retires, they should seriously considering naming Barcelona after him.

Like, the city.

EDIT: Ronaldo is an absolutely astonishing player. Unbelievable, one-of-a-kind.

I want to call him the greatest goalscorer I've ever seen, except, y'know. The other guy.

The Guardian wrote:

GOAL! Barcelona 3-0 Liverpool (Messi 82)
Crikey! Leo Messi scores with an incredible free-kick that sails into the top corner from 35 yards out. That’s his 600th goal for Barcelona.

600? Daaaaamn.

He's also scored against every single English team he's ever faced.

Well, if Liverpool come back from this....... wowza.

Prederick wrote:

Well, if Liverpool come back from this....... wowza.

Watch this space......

Nah. I think Liverpool are done unfortunately. I can see them doing very well, getting it back to 3-3 and then Barcelona will score. And that'll be that. We'll see but Messi was the difference tonight, that free kick was exceptional.

When Tiger Woods was in his prime, other golfers played worse when he was in the same tournament. Just his presence messed up their games.

As Salah doinked one off the post from close range today, I wondered, could there be a Messi Effect in soccer?

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

When Tiger Woods was in his prime, other golfers played worse when he was in the same tournament. Just his presence messed up their games.

As Salah doinked one off the post from close range today, I wondered, could there be a Messi Effect in soccer?

Nah that's just football. Liverpool had 3 really good chances - Mane's touch let him down first half when he skied Henderson world class cross, Milner really should have placed the ball better when he shot straight at Der Stagen, and the goal mouth scramble when Salah hit to post sort of summed up Liverpool's night (even if that was when they were already 3-0 down).

Definitely a harsh result on Liverpool, but Barca did what they needed to do when it counted. I don't see them collapsing at Anfield I'll be honest, but if Liverpool do get it back I don't think I'd be shocked. Surprised and impressed for sure, but not shocked.

Messi is a cheat mode. And sadly, Liverpool is done.

If everyone is healthy I wouldn't put it beyond Liverpool's ability to manage a 3-0 result at Anfield. BUT not when Barca are carrying a massive lead and can sit back and wait to pounce on the counter.

juv3nal wrote:

If everyone is healthy I wouldn't put it beyond Liverpool's ability to manage a 3-0 result at Anfield. BUT not when Barca are carrying a massive lead and can sit back and wait to pounce on the counter.

1-0 until very late in the game and Liverpool snatch 2 to force OT.

I just feel like if Liverpool come out flying Barca will quick jab them for 1 and then the away goal math gets ugly.

Which is going away next year? I'm a fan of away goals.

Given Liverpool's incredible season, I'd like to see them come out of it with something. I was hoping they'd win Champions League. I don't think 3-0 at Anfield is impossible, but yeah, big mountain to climb.

jowner wrote:
juv3nal wrote:

If everyone is healthy I wouldn't put it beyond Liverpool's ability to manage a 3-0 result at Anfield. BUT not when Barca are carrying a massive lead and can sit back and wait to pounce on the counter.

1-0 until very late in the game and Liverpool snatch 2 to force OT.

I just feel like if Liverpool come out flying Barca will quick jab them for 1 and then the away goal math gets ugly.

Which is going away next year? I'm a fan of away goals.

Yeah, I actually like the away goals rule, on many levels. For one thing, it prevents many overtimes. It also rewards attacking when not on one's home turf. I also find its arcane nature kind of fun.

So Tifo football, a youtube channel I'm a huge fan of, has been doing a huge content dump on Bielsa which is fascinating:

as well as a podcast interview with a fellow who is writing a book about Bielsa:
https://www.tifofootball.com/podcast...

Fedaykin98 wrote:
jowner wrote:
juv3nal wrote:

If everyone is healthy I wouldn't put it beyond Liverpool's ability to manage a 3-0 result at Anfield. BUT not when Barca are carrying a massive lead and can sit back and wait to pounce on the counter.

1-0 until very late in the game and Liverpool snatch 2 to force OT.

I just feel like if Liverpool come out flying Barca will quick jab them for 1 and then the away goal math gets ugly.

Which is going away next year? I'm a fan of away goals.

Yeah, I actually like the away goals rule, on many levels. For one thing, it prevents many overtimes. It also rewards attacking when not on one's home turf. I also find its arcane nature kind of fun. :lol:

Me too. I like it better than immediately going to a shoot out, or extra time that increases wear on players.

Always a thumbs up for Tifo. Best football channel on YT right now, for my money.

So, good result for Arsenal, solid result for Chelsea. I'd be willing to put a small bet on an all-English Europa League final.

Prederick wrote:

So, good result for Arsenal, solid result for Chelsea. I'd be willing to put a small bet on an all-English Europa League final.

Watched the Arsenal game. They needed that 3rd and on the balance of play deserved it. Could of been 4 or 5 even.

Considering how erratic they are though who knows what they do in Spain.

Should we already start talking transfer rumors?

I didn't realize some big deals have already happened.

Jul 1
Lucas Hernández
ATM BMU
€ 80M
Jul 1
Frenkie De Jong
AJAX BAR
€ 75M
Jul 1
Éder Militão
POR MAD
€ 50M

I'm hoping Arsenal can find a CB they desperately need and 200m has already been spent by 3 of the biggest clubs.

If you haven't seen it before, I cannot recommend the Twitter thread "Nutmegs as Great Philosophical Arguments" enough.

I don't know, isn't that different, though? In the goal you've linked to, Villa didn't look like they're going to play the ball out of bounds and then pass it to their attacker. Villa just kept playing, and it wasn't that long.

In other words, isn't the part that got everyone steamed was the "looking like you're going to play it out of bounds so everyone slows down but oh whoopsie I've changed my mind" part?

jowner wrote:

Should we already start talking transfer rumors?

I didn't realize some big deals have already happened.

Jul 1
Lucas Hernández
ATM BMU
€ 80M
Jul 1
Frenkie De Jong
AJAX BAR
€ 75M
Jul 1
Éder Militão
POR MAD
€ 50M

I'm hoping Arsenal can find a CB they desperately need and 200m has already been spent by 3 of the biggest clubs.

Seems to be most of the big clubs now identify early and get in before anyone else, even if it’s Pricy. Probably gives them time to consider who to sell to make the FFP regulations as well. For those that care anyway

All of the nonsense, and yet Rafa's about to sign a new deal at Newcastle.

I think the only people who don't understand how unbelievably good Rafa has been to Newcastle are the people in charge of Newcastle.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

I don't know, isn't that different, though? In the goal you've linked to, Villa didn't look like they're going to play the ball out of bounds and then pass it to their attacker. Villa just kept playing, and it wasn't that long.

In other words, isn't the part that got everyone steamed was the "looking like you're going to play it out of bounds so everyone slows down but oh whoopsie I've changed my mind" part?

It was Villa who stopped playing against Leeds, not Leeds players. They knocked it around a bit, Villa players basically just expected Leeds to kick it out, just like the Stoke player who is waving their hands around in that clip.

The bit that got everyone steamed is that it was Leeds and it fit into the "dirty" Leeds sterotype that came around from the 60s/70s, despite the fact that team was also the best footballing side of the day when at it's element.

"Onewild” wrote:

It was Villa who stopped playing against Leeds, not Leeds players. They knocked it around a bit, Villa players basically just expected Leeds to kick it out, just like the Stoke player who is waving their hands around in that clip.

The bit that got everyone steamed is that it was Leeds and it fit into the "dirty" Leeds sterotype that came around from the 60s/70s, despite the fact that team was also the best footballing side of the day when at it's element.

I can guarantee that if that goal was the difference between Leeds getting automatic promotion instead of having to go through the playoffs, that there is no way in hell Bielsa would have told his players to let Villa equalise.

YOU PLAY TO THE WHISTLE. FA/UEFA/FIFA rules explicitly say that too, it’s up to the ref to halt play. Not the players, not your opponents and I think the rules say that unless it’s a head injury the ref doesn’t have to pull play back.

This sort of crap infuriates me.

Ronaldo says hair clinic way to thank Spanish fans

Madrid - Cristiano Ronaldo said on Friday his decision to open a hair transplant clinic in Madrid was his way of thanking "the people who love me" after spending the best part of a decade at Real Madrid.

The 34-year-old Portuguese star's hair implant centre in the Spanish capital opened its doors in March even though he has been a Juventus player since last year.

"The Spanish people treated me well, I wanted to thank them by giving them work," Ronaldo told El Pais newspaper.

"I know that the people love me, they know that I gave a lot to the club (Real) and that they also gave me a lot."

*snrk*

I was reading reviews of tomorrow's Free Comic Book Day comics, and there's a Ronaldo-as-superhero book. The reviewer described him as looking more like Superman than Superman does.

Eh, that's not fair. Superman is a wonderfully square (figuratively and literally) farmboy from middle America.

Ronaldo looks like if you let Karl Lagerfeld design a soccer player.

I think I figured it out.

Everyone is trying to finish exactly 4th and not 3rd.