2018/19 Soccer Thread

I mean, it's not a hat-trick, but I'd argue this is quite the riposte from Messi so far.

We really, really are spoiled by the pair of them, to see players be this good for this long that this performance from Messi tonight really only deigns a "Yep, he's that good."

EDIT: LOL TWO GOALS AND AN ASSIST, CHRIST

EDIT EDIT: TWO GOALS AND TWO ASSISTS LOOOOOOOOL

Honest to God, I think Messi and Ronaldo are ahead of their contemporaries in a way that, as an American, is only comparable to Babe Ruth and Wilt Chamberlain. They're just THAT far ahead of everyone else.

And Arsenal go through too (as do Chelsea).

Quite a good year in European competition for England, although the Quarter-Finals don't come with any trophies.

EDIT: Sparta Prague slayed the Europa League's final boss!

Ah, it'd been too long since a governing body had come up with a moronic idea.

Soccer: 2020 Copa America to be held in Argentina and Colombia

For those of you who are curious:

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Sure.

Prederick wrote:

Ah, it'd been too long since a governing body had come up with a moronic idea.

Soccer: 2020 Copa America to be held in Argentina and Colombia

For those of you who are curious:

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Sure.

Well considering the other option was hosting it in the USA... Not really that moronic.

It's 2008 and England is too powerful in European club football all over again hysteria.

Draw is 7 EST tomorrow for the CL followed by Europa draw.

England vs England somehow end up in the CL final with Chelsea vs Arsenal in Europa for maximum Brexit hilarity.

Arsenal are in a great mid season situation. Their Wolves match has been rescheduled because Wolves are in the FA Cup which means.... Arsenal don't play until April 1st on a Monday vs Newcastle.

The team is going off to Dubai and playing a friendly. There is an international break sandwiched in there but talk about lucky.

No real excuses to not have the gas for the end of season sprint. They have a maximum of 13 games left.

jowner wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Ah, it'd been too long since a governing body had come up with a moronic idea.

Soccer: 2020 Copa America to be held in Argentina and Colombia

For those of you who are curious:

IMAGE(https://i.ibb.co/MM07ccQ/This-Doesnt-Seem-Dumb-At-All.png)

Sure.

Well considering the other option was hosting it in the USA... Not really that moronic.

There's been periodic talk of repeating the Copa America Centenario tournament format in the US, but with a different name. I would absolutely love to see it happen. That was a magical summer to me, with that and the Euros going on.

I think someone in this thread mentioned OWNA FC a while ago, but I can't find the post.

Anyway, the premise was you paid £50 to invest in a takeover of a football club and get to take part in the day-to-day operations of the club, including signings, contracts and more.

It hasn't gone well, so far.

Behind the scenes, things were beginning to unravel for those who had invested their £49 (early investors had actually paid £99 before a reduction to £49 was agreed – they would receive two shares). Several people contacted this writer to inform that they hadn’t received any paperwork, merely an email receipt of payment and access to the app.

One customer, David, started asking questions publicly on social media, was blocked from the mobile app and informed that he wouldn't be getting a refund for making derogatory comments on social media. At some point, the terms and conditions were altered on OWNA’s website to remove a clause indicating that customers who invested before January 6, 2019 were entitled to a refund if a takeover hadn’t been completed by March 1.

By Sunday evening, OWNA had gone into shutdown mode. All social media channels (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube channel) have been deleted, and the website taken down. Before the Twitter account disappeared, tweets were sent accusing a concerted smear campaign: “Sabotage will always lose to those who take on the elite. #OWNAFC allowing the working class to take on the elite and win.”

A confusion regarding the exact product also formed. When speaking to The Sun, Harvey said: “We sell them the concept for £49, which includes licence fees to use the technology and a shareholding within the football club.” But in the brochure on OWNA’s website, it tells customers they “will have the option of buying one share within the club at the nominal value”. That suggests until a takeover is completed, they have no share and therefore no actual product other than access to the app.

Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...

Prederick wrote:

Ah, it'd been too long since a governing body had come up with a moronic idea.

Soccer: 2020 Copa America to be held in Argentina and Colombia

For those of you who are curious:

IMAGE(https://i.ibb.co/MM07ccQ/This-Doesnt-Seem-Dumb-At-All.png)

Sure.

They also want a 24 team "world cup" as well - all paid for by Saudia Arabia - which would leave the average international class player with no more than a 48 break between games in a year, let alone season.

FifPro (the global players union) have already said "no" and UEFA are expected to do the same. Nothing has changed since blatter left - in fact it's got worse.

Champions League draw:

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Good Draw for Liverpool, Juve and (probably) Barcelona

Bad Draw for Spurs & Man United, Ajax & Porto

City are probably thinking "it could have been worse" but probably "it could have been better" too

Edit: Liverpool/Porto will face United/Barca in the Semis, Spurs/City will face Ajax/Juve

Barca v Juve final I reckon.

My first hope of course is Spurs winning it all, but failing that, a Barca - Juve final would be epic.

After watching their 2nd leg against Real Madrid I'm hoping Ajax can somehow win it all.

Late goals at all the premier league matches today.

I didn't watch any FA Cup, nor Leeds-Sheffield United (sorry onewild).

Roke wrote:

Late goals at all the premier league matches today.

I didn't watch any FA Cup, nor Leeds-Sheffield United (sorry onewild).

Yeah, we had chances but didn't manage a shot on target, still it wouldn't be Leeds if we didn't make it has heart attack enducing as possible. Still 8 games left though, so a lot of play for. Think Norwich are going to finish top, then between us and Sheffield for second. Still plenty of twists to happen yet.

Man United crash out to Wolves, was pretty much the sporting highlight of the weekend, aside from Scotland coming back from 31-0 down in the 6 Nations to draw 38-38 with England in the Rugby Union.

I actually went to a league one match this afternoon:

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Sunderland v Walsall.

There was a lot of huff. A lot of puff. Not a lot of quality and the wind had more of a role in the game than it should have (seriously, the Walsall keeper booted it all the way through to the Sunderland keeper at least 4 times)

But it was entertaining. Walsall went 1-0 up on the fourth minute, before Sunderland got their act together and came through eventual 2-1 winners. That man on fire, Will Grigg scores the winner. If he’s scored the opening goal and Sunderland had won 3-1 I would have been quids in, but never mind.

Chelsea in big trouble.

Absolutely dominated Everton at first but are down 2-0.

jowner wrote:

Chelsea in big trouble.

Absolutely dominated Everton at first but are down 2-0.

That's heartbreaking.

Liverpool dodged a bullet this afternoon - really should have been 3-0 up by the end of the first half. I don't think I've ever seen anyone as unhappy about scoring a goal as Ryan Babbel was though when he equalised! As nice as it was to see all the Liverpool players saying "it was my fault" during the post match interviews I did think Allison should have been screaming "IT'S MY BALL/CLEAR IT" when Virgil was clearly wondering what was he was doing. Oh well no harm done in the end. And it was a clear penalty no matter what Leon Osman thought on Match of the Day 2.

Salah is playing some lovely stuff, but he just can't buy a goal at the moment. While that'll pass, he could and should have passed the ball off to someone better positioned at least twice during the game, so I hope Klopp will have a quiet word with him about that. Now is not the time for selfishness

As per the usual, if you haven't seen Messi's goals from Sunday yet, fix that immediately.

His third is literally pornographic.

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Prederick wrote:

As per the usual, if you haven't seen Messi's goals from Sunday yet, fix that immediately.

His third is literally pornographic.

Jeez, that third goal reminds me of Michael Jordan saying that the basket looked like Lake Michigan. What an audacious shot.

Yikes. His third goal is mind-boggling. Thanks for sharing!

omni wrote:

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Try this.

I've watched that third goal like 20 times today. The more I watch it the more impressed I am. I'm not sure I've ever seen a goal quite like it. How did he even think of it, let alone execute it?

"He sees things no one else sees."

It's such a joy to watch. Hard to not smile. And the Betis fans all standing and clapping for him was a nice touch. How could you not?

EDIT: This link works for me in the US.

It's genuinely absurd. I'd like to imagine how long it would take all of us to even come close to replicating it, in perfectly ideal conditions, not even, y'know, during a game.

Meanwhile, oh Ligue 1.....

It was not supposed to happen like this for Ligue 1, not with the way things looked a fortnight ago. PSG’s Champions League exit was perhaps down more to controversial circumstances and individual errors than the eliminations of Lyon and Rennes. However, despite the latter two sides having been given little chance in their ties against Barcelona and Arsenal, both entered the return legs in enviable positions, especially given the gulf in resources and reputation between them and their opponents. What followed for the two sides, however, was a pair of abject displays that will do little to dispel the “farmers’ league” trope that has been a millstone around the neck of Ligue 1 in the recent past.

Lyon, after all, had been arguably the surprise package of the Champions League group stage, being one of only two sides to finish unbeaten, and recording two near-unbelievable results against Manchester City. In the first leg, they had ridden their luck (and a poor outing from Luis Suárez) but had their chances in a goalless draw, not only keeping themselves in the tie but also denying the La Liga leaders an away goal.

In the return leg on Wednesday, however, rather than taking the game to Barcelona as they had at the Parc OL, Lyon were more negative with Lucas Tousart displacing the vastly more creative Houssem Aouar in midfield, and the sort of players who could prosper on the counter (Bertrand Traoré, Maxwel Cornet) given short shift. It is difficult to say anything new at this point on Bruno Génésio, Lyon’s alternately maddening and brilliant manager who has coaxed some of the club’s greatest “post-austerity” moments from the team (e.g. this season’s group stage, the win over PSG, and 2017’s Europa League semi-final) but has also stumbled badly when handed the initiative, unsure whether to stick or twist.

Prederick wrote:
omni wrote:

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Try this.

I actually read the full error the video shows - it's that the video cannot be played on *this* site, but you can watch the actual YouTube video on youtube itself, for whatever reason.. ad revenue or some such, no doubt. basically blocking 'hotlinking' the youtube clip, to use a phrase from yesteryear.

omni wrote:
Prederick wrote:
omni wrote:

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Try this.

I actually read the full error the video shows - it's that the video cannot be played on *this* site, but you can watch the actual YouTube video on youtube itself, for whatever reason.. ad revenue or some such, no doubt. basically blocking 'hotlinking' the youtube clip, to use a phrase from yesteryear.

Same here. Clicked through and it was fine.

I think my favorite part about it, as was mentioned in a lot of the post-match reports, is that the Betis fans literally just started applauding, which is really the only reasonable response to that goal. Watch the crowd in the replay, they're all just completely blown away.

That Pep Guardiola quote really is accurate: “Don’t write about him, don’t try to describe him, just watch him.”

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Yeah, the ovation was something. I actually saw that on Twitter before any of the goals because all the highlights I was coming across until your Youtube link today were annoyingly region locked.

Had the same problem with Alphonso Davies' first goal for Bayern. I wish soccer leagues would wise up like the NBA has and realize highlight clips drive interest and eyeballs.

Do you think it would look as awesome to non-soccer fans? Like, is it something that you appreciate only if you've been around soccer long enough to know how improbable that shot is?

He made it look so incredibly easy too.