[Discussion] The Individual 1 Administration Thread 2

Let's follow and discuss what our newest presidential administration gets up to, the good, the bad, the lawsuits, and the many many indictments.

I guess Hannity and Dobbs double dog dared him.

It is amazing the lengths old men will go through to prove they are still virile. (wait I think I mean infantile not virile)

A national emergency because we're not conducing genocide fast enough at the southern border and too many people fleeing death-threats and domestic abuse are politely asking for asylum in the legally-prescribed manner certainly seems like a good way to sum up everything that's changed since 2016.

I look forward to the lawsuits.

The only thing can figure for why McConnell is backing this Trump move (aside from he's just transparently evil) is that it lets him avoid the blame for another shutdown, he's pretty sure that the emergency declaration will get blocked by the courts or dems and a few defecting Senators, and he gets to keep his base happy while Trump takes the heat.

But yeah, if we're gonna go down this road, at least it's setting the precedent for the next dem president to declare climate change and health care emergencies. I actually hate the idea of that, but may as well get some good out of the system breaking down.

How about student loan debt being a national emergency for the economy?

Maybe I'm too cynical, but all this Republican "if Trump does this on The Wall, then the next Democratic President can do this on climate change/gun control/etc." sounds less like "and that why Trump shouldn't do it" and more like "we should totally do it, and then run in 2020 on messages like 'if you elect a Democrat to the White House, he'll take your guns AND your cars!'"

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The use of the Constitution against the Constitution is unconstitutional! Why didn't I see that before?

Rat Boy wrote:

The use of the Constitution against the Constitution is unconstitutional! Why didn't I see that before?

It's using the Constitutional powers in a way that was never intended! That's terrible and should be grounds for jailing a person who does that forever!

Later today: Trump uses executive powers to declare national emergency in order to reallocate Congressionally-appropriated funds toward building a border wall.

But yeah, if we're gonna go down this road, at least it's setting the precedent for the next dem president to declare climate change and health care emergencies.

Everyone keeps saying that like it is facetious...
Color me crazy but those are national emergencies!
Even the military backs me up.

Yeah, Climate change isn't a difference of political opinion. If something major isn't done worldwide within 12 years, we're f*cked. That sure sounds like a (inter)national emergency to me.

WipEout wrote:

Yeah, Climate change isn't a difference of political opinion. If something major isn't done worldwide within 12 years, we're f*cked. That sure sounds like a (inter)national emergency to me.

To add some nuance to it, at this point we're already irrevocably f*cked because we're going to have 1.5C even if we completely halt emissions...but we can choose how bad it is going to be. Keeping it under 2 degrees Celsius is going to be hard but it'll still make for a much better world than if we exceed it. Going over 2 is no more coral reefs, the summer Arctic will be ice-free about two-thirds of the time, two or three times more deadly heatwaves, more extreme rainfall, more and longer droughts, and more extinct species.

We get to choose how bad it is going to be. Fortunately, according to the studies population growth isn't a major factor so there's a sense in which this is all achievable. The problem is we're currently on track for 3.2 °C, and we're going to want to pull that number down as quickly as we can. Even choosing between 3.2 and 3 is a gain, and if we can get it down to 2 that'll be a big win for continued human habitation of the planet versus 3C. Obviously, I'd prefer 1.5C, but I'll take "kind of bad" over "extinction".

Trump Admits He ‘Didn’t Need To’ Declare National Emergency

President Donald Trump on Friday admitted that he “didn’t need to” declare a national emergency for his long-promised border wall, and merely wanted to “do it much faster” to please his political base.

A number of legal experts — including George Conway, husband of top Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway — immediately noted on Twitter that those words could easily be used against him in the likely legal battle over his questionable claim to a national emergency.

This is going to be a complete sh*tshow

I think it is more like "renewed for another season! The trump sh*tshow!" And like most bad shows they need to up the ante to keep viewers. Those racists aren't going to vote unless you keep them fired up.

muttonchop wrote:

This is going to be a complete sh*tshow

As opposed to the previous two years?

farley3k wrote:

Trump Admits He ‘Didn’t Need To’ Declare National Emergency

President Donald Trump on Friday admitted that he “didn’t need to” declare a national emergency for his long-promised border wall, and merely wanted to “do it much faster” to please his political base.

A number of legal experts — including George Conway, husband of top Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway — immediately noted on Twitter that those words could easily be used against him in the likely legal battle over his questionable claim to a national emergency.

Child admits they didn’t ‘need’ to call 911 to ask math questions, they just wanted to get their homework done quicker.

Jonman wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

This is going to be a complete sh*tshow

As opposed to the previous two years?

It's sh*tshows all the way down

They will bring the Mooch back so that he can quit ahead of being fired.

If I want to give him any credit for strategy I would say he is doing this now to keep his base fired up for the reelection battle in 2020. He knows it will be tied up in court that long and that he can use it as a rallying cry to keep his base interested enough to vote.

And sadly it will work. They will have a new "cause" to fight for, a way of life to save, blah, blah, blah.

muttonchop wrote:
Jonman wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

This is going to be a complete sh*tshow

As opposed to the previous two years?

It's sh*tshows all the way down

Oh, we haven't seen anywhere near the depths that this thing can drop to. Remember, before this year most of the political pressure was indirect by necessity. With the Democratic House, there's actual opposition, which means there are people with the ability to say 'no'. No one has seriously told him 'no' in a way that has significant material power over his desires since his father died. The temper tantrums so far are only the beginning.

Donald Jr.

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1. if it was wrong when Obama did it then why would your daddy doing it be a good thing?
2. Obamacare was vigorously fought in court (and even went to the Supreme Court) so I assume you expect the same.

I thought Eric was supposed to be the stupid one.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I thought Eric was supposed to be the stupid one.

It's not binary. More of a question of degree.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

I thought Eric was supposed to be the stupid one.

It's not binary. More of a question of degree.

It’s a different kind of dumb. Like don jr is dumb like his father - socially and intellectually inept, propped up by a name and carried along by a coattail borrowed from his dad, borrowed from his dad, borrowed from dirty money and seen together with defaulted loans and lies.

Some details about working with Jeff Sessions from McCabe's upcoming book:

The FBI was better off when "you all only hired Irishmen," Sessions said in one diatribe about the bureau's workforce. "They were drunks but they could be trusted. Not like all those new people with nose rings and tattoos - who knows what they're doing?"
McCabe's disdain for Trump is rivaled only by his contempt for Sessions. He questions the former attorney general's mental faculties, saying that he had "trouble focusing, particularly when topics of conversation strayed from a small number of issues."

Logs on the electronic tablets used to deliver the President's Daily Brief to Sessions came back with no indication he had ever punched in the passcode. The attorney general's views on race and religion are described as reprehensible.
Sessions "believed that Islam - inherently - advocated extremism" and ceaselessly sought to draw connections between crime and immigration. "Where's he from?" was his first question about a suspect. The next: "Where are his parents from?"

It has always been clear that Sessions is a reprehensible weasel. To have anecdotes like these drive it home so forcefully just makes the notion of a person like that being Attorney General even more nauseating.

BadKen wrote:

It has always been clear that Sessions is a reprehensible weasel. To have anecdotes like these drive it home so forcefully just makes the notion of a person like that being Attorney General even more nauseating.

Session being a reprehensible (and racist) weasel is why he wasn't made a district court judge 33 years ago.

Then the wonderful citizens of Alabama decided he was just the person to represent their state, first as the state's attorney general for several years, and then as a flippin' Senator for two decades.

Hell of a system of government we have when it gives terrible excuses of humanity more and more power.