[Discussion] Hope to Remember The Trump Administration Thread as being 'transparent and honest'

Let's follow and discuss what our newest presidential administration gets up to, the good, the bad, the lawsuits, and the many many indictments.

Commerce Department aides knew Alabama hurricane forecasters were not responding to Trump, but still rebuked them

WaPo wrote:

Senior aides at the Commerce Department forced the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to publicly rebuke its weather forecasters in Birmingham, Ala., for contradicting President Trump’s comments about the threat Hurricane Dorian posed to that state, even after NOAA informed them that the agency’s meteorologists were not aware at the time they were contradicting the president, according to three officials familiar with the matter.

These NOAA officials spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity surrounding ongoing investigations into the agency’s actions regarding Hurricane Dorian. NOAA and its National Weather Service are part of the Commerce Department.

According to emails released via a Freedom of Information Act request from The Post and other news organizations, Julie Kay Roberts, NOAA’s deputy chief of staff and communications director, was told on Sept. 2 about the motivation behind a tweet that the National Weather Service office in Birmingham had sent at 11:11 a.m. the day before. When forecasters there tweeted “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian,” they were responding to an influx of calls from worried residents and not to an earlier tweet from Trump.

Trump had wrongly tweeted at 10:51 a.m. the same day that Alabama would “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated,” sparking confusion and fear in the state. Alabama was not in the so-called “cone of uncertainty” for Dorian at the time, or close to the zone most likely to be affected by its hazardous conditions.

“I wanted to let you know that the forecasters in Birmingham who made the clarification post for Alabama [were] unaware of the POTUS tweet when they made their post,” Susan Buchanan, director of public affairs for the National Weather Service, wrote to Weather Service and NOAA officials, including Roberts, in an email on Sept. 2.

The Washington Post reported on Sept. 11 that this was the case. However, Buchanan’s email brings to light that senior agency officials knew this four days before NOAA issued the controversial, unsigned statement critical of the forecasters for speaking “in absolute terms.”

The new emails also show that Chris Darden, the meteorologist-in-charge of the Birmingham office, had written in an email to Weather Service officials, including Buchanan, on Sept. 1: “Some in [the] media assumed, understandably so, that our social media posts were a direct response to the [White House] post. In fact, they were not as we were not even aware of them at the time. It was directly in response to the increase in calls from anxious and panicked citizens and core partners.”

It's kinda amazing the lengths the people running our government will go to--and the damage they'll do--to appease a 73-year-old baby.

Of course they were still rebuked. Their excuse was simply admission to a far far worse crime than contradicting Trump: not paying attention to Trump.

Oh look. Someone has a new book coming out and wants to raise interest...

Nikki, why don't you have a chat with the Kurdish people....

Washington (CNN)Former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley divulged in her forthcoming memoir that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former White House chief of staff John Kelly attempted to recruit her to undermine President Donald Trump in an effort to "save the country," according to The Washington Post.
The two former Cabinet members sought Haley's help in their endeavors to subvert the President but she refused, Haley wrote. The Washington Post obtained a copy of her book, titled "With All Due Respect," ahead of its Tuesday release. CNN has not seen a copy of the memoir.
"Kelly and Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the President, they weren't being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country," Haley wrote.
At one point, Haley wrote that Tillerson also told her people would die if Trump was unchecked. However, Haley said she supported most of Trump's foreign policy decisions that others in the White House tried to block or slow down, according to the Post.

And clearly Haley is still in the pocket of Trump as it relates to Ukraine...

"There was no heavy demand insisting that something had to happen. So it's hard for me to understand where the whole impeachment situation is coming from because what everybody's up in arms about didn't happen," Haley told the Post in an interview.

The best people!


While meeting with President Donald Trump, the parents of a British teenager who was killed in a traffic collision with the wife of a U.S. diplomat were offered money from the Treasury by the president, which they refused, according to The Guardian.

Harry Dunn, 19, was riding his motorcycle near the Royal Air Force base in Northamptonshire, England when he was involved in an accident with Anne Sacoolas. Dunn died of his injuries in the hospital while Sacoolas claimed diplomatic immunity and left the United Kingdom. Trump invited Dunn's parents, Tim Dunn and Charlotte Charles, to the White House to discuss the case.

Toward the end of the meeting, Trump intimated that he had Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin "standing by ready to write a check."

"It was almost as if he let it slip out," said family spokesman Radd Seiger. "When he said, 'We've got the driver here', he basically meant we're all going to have a big hug and a kiss and I'll get my Treasury guy to write a check. That's how it was. On the day it just didn't register with me, but the more I think about those words, the more shocking it is."

Only the best people.

Bolton's unwilling to testify to Congress unless the courts weigh in, but he's already lined up a 'tell all' book deal with Simon & Schuster.

Of course he'd think a check is worth a child's life.

For one he doesn't give a sh*t about his own kids.

But mostly he's settled out of court so many times that's how he thinks the world works. Pay some some money when you're guilty of a crime and then you don't go to jail. That's his entire life.

OG_slinger wrote:

Bolton's unwilling to testify to Congress unless the courts weigh in

That could get interesting if the courts say he (and presumably everyone else) must answer a congressional subpoena.

Rat Boy wrote:

That could get interesting if the courts say he (and presumably everyone else) must answer a congressional subpoena.

Unless House Dems are willing to slow their roll on impeachment and wait a couple of months for these cases to work their way to the Supreme Court (and hope that the packed conservative court will do the right thing for the country) it's pretty moot.

Trump Denies Discussions to Relaunch Apprentice After Presidency:

The idea for that show would be to get it on the air shortly after the president leaves office “and take full advantage of Trump’s status as a former president of the United States and a newfound Republican kingmaker,”

oh wow, that makes me think they should just skip the whole business thing and have The Candidate, where a Donald Trump 'reality' show replaces a Republican primary race.

If he wants to vacate the presidency to do this, I'm on board 1000%
Get him the f*ck out! Maybe he can run it from jail?

cheeze_pavilion wrote:

oh wow, that makes me think they should just skip the whole business thing and have The Candidate, where a Donald Trump 'reality' show replaces a Republican primary race.

I suppose you think you were joking...

After boost from Perry, backers got huge gas deal in Ukraine

Associated Press wrote:

Two political supporters of U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry secured a potentially lucrative oil and gas exploration deal from the Ukrainian government soon after Perry proposed one of the men as an adviser to the country’s new president.

Perry’s efforts to influence Ukraine’s energy policy came earlier this year, just as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s new government was seeking military aid from the United States to defend against Russian aggression and allies of President Donald Trump were ramping up efforts to get the Ukrainians to investigate his Democratic rival Joe Biden.

Ukraine awarded the contract to Perry’s supporters little more than a month after the U.S. energy secretary attended Zelenskyy’s May inauguration. In a meeting during that trip, Perry handed the new president a list of people he recommended as energy advisers. One of the four names was his longtime political backer Michael Bleyzer.

A week later, Bleyzer and his partner Alex Cranberg submitted a bid to drill for oil and gas at a sprawling government-controlled site called Varvynska. They offered millions of dollars less to the Ukrainian government than their only competitor for the drilling rights, according to internal Ukrainian government documents obtained by The Associated Press. But their newly created joint venture, Ukrainian Energy, was awarded the 50-year contract because a government-appointed commission determined they had greater technical expertise and stronger financial backing, the documents show.

Perry likely had outsized influence in Ukraine. Testimony in the impeachment inquiry into Trump shows the energy secretary was one of three key U.S. officials who were negotiating a meeting between Trump and the Ukrainian leader.

I'm sure Trump will want Ukraine to investigate this since he's so obsessed with corruption.

Alabama man slashes 'Baby Trump' balloon at Alabama/LSU game, gets arrested for first degree criminal mischief, raises $40K via GoFundMe and promises to donate whatever he doesn't need for his legal defense to Trump's campaign

AL.com wrote:

Hoyt Deau Hutchinson, the Alabama man accused of slashing a Baby Trump balloon in Tuscaloosa last weekend, defended his actions during a Monday morning call to the “Rick & Bubba Show.”

Hutchinson is charged with felony first degree criminal mischief in relation to the slashing of the Trump balloon that was in town for the Alabama/LSU game and a presidential appearance by Donald Trump.

In his call to the syndicated program, Hutchinson, 32, said he drove past the Baby Trump balloon on Saturday and yelled at the protesters.

“I got so fired up when I rolled by the balloon and I rolled down the window and I said something to them and I figured they saw me. I figured only way I was going to get close enough to that balloon was to blend in. (I) went and bought me an Alabama shirt and walked up like I was walking to the game and like I was going to take a picture with (the Trump balloon).

“I was so fired up. I was shaking I was so mad,” he said.

When host Rick Burgess asked what his motivation for slashing the balloon, Hutchinson replied:

“I’m not young but I’m not old. I’m sort of middle aged. I feel like a lot of people my age don’t keep up with the news and politics the way they should. I watch the news every night. I watch Fox News every night. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are my favorite two anchors.

"I see this stuff going on out west and up north and all other places. I get so mad about people not taking a stand. The left wants to use religion against you like you shouldn’t act like this and stuff but I’ll tell you this - the Devil knows the Bible as good as we do.”

“This was your turning of the temple tables?” Burgess asked in reference to the Biblical story of Jesus turning over the tables of the money changers in the temple.

“Yes,” Hutchinson replied. “It comes a point when you gotta take a stand. We don’t have two parties anymore. We have good vs. evil. When you got one party that says it’s OK to kill babies and by the way, this is the first time I’m ever seen a liberal get mad about chopping up a baby.”

Later in the interview, Hutchinson said the protesters were chanting “lock him up,” in reference to the president.

“I walked by and said “Lock this up,” he replied.

Hutchinson said he used a material cutter with a sharp razor to slice the 20-foot tall balloon. He said he yelled “Trump 2020” as he was arrested.

OG_slinger wrote:
AL.com wrote:

“I’m not young but I’m not old. I’m sort of middle aged. I feel like a lot of people my age don’t keep up with the news and politics the way they should. I watch the news every night. I watch Fox News every night. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are my favorite two anchors.


“It comes a point when you gotta take a stand. We don’t have two parties anymore. We have good vs. evil. When you got one party that says it’s OK to kill babies and by the way, this is the first time I’m ever seen a liberal get mad about chopping up a baby.”

These two paragraphs are directly related. Fox News brainwashing at its finest.

I was confused reading that story at first because I couldn't figure out why someone who would be donating money to Trump's campaign would slash a Trump balloon.

Don Junior's book tour has been going well: his talk was being disrupted by protesters, so he launched into a free-speech rant about how right-wing groups never disrupt things...until it became clear that the disruption was entirely from a right-wing group.

The disruption was organized by a right-wing group that has been trying to regather the scattered post-Charlottesville Unite the Right alt-right under a Christian nationalist theme with fewer libertarians and swastikas and more racists and crosses.

It's part of a fracturing on the right-wing, where ardent supporters of Trump (and homophobia and racism) are turning against the more libertarian parts of the right.

Remember Katie McHugh? She was a former Breitbart editor and darling of the white supremacist far-right until her racist tweets got her fired and she (supposedly) found the errors of her ways.

Well, she's back.

This time it's because she handed over a trove of emails from her days at Breitbart to Hatewatch who combed through them. They found a considerable chunk from media shy Stephen Miller.

Hatewatch wrote:

Hatewatch reviewed more than 900 previously private emails Miller sent to Breitbart editors from March 4, 2015, to June 27, 2016. Miller does not converse along a wide range of topics in the emails. His focus is strikingly narrow – more than 80 percent of the emails Hatewatch reviewed relate to or appear on threads relating to the subjects of race or immigration. Hatewatch made multiple attempts to reach the White House for a comment from Miller about the content of his emails but did not receive any reply.

Miller’s perspective on race and immigration across the emails is repetitious. When discussing crime, which he does scores of times, Miller focuses on offenses committed by nonwhites. On immigration, he touches solely on the perspective of severely limiting or ending nonwhite immigration to the United States. Hatewatch was unable to find any examples of Miller writing sympathetically or even in neutral tones about any person who is nonwhite or foreign-born.

Miller's emails:

-- Shared multiple links to the white nationalist website VDARE.
-- Told Breitbart editors to look into “The Camp of the Saints,” a racist book from 1973 that depicts a fictionalized invasion of France by Indian refugees and migrants that destroys the country. It's popular among white nationalists and neo-Nazis because it plays into their myths of "white genocide" and "great replacement."
-- Celebrated a DOJ policy that separated crimes committed by Hispanics "rather than lumping them in with whites."
-- Bemoaned retailers pulling Confederate flags from their stores after the Charleston church shooting while they still sold "hammer and sickle merchandise, Che shirts, Stalin shirts" as well as the vandalization of Confederate monuments.

Oh look, Stephen Miller is a racist...


JC wrote:

Oh look, Stephen Miller is a racist...

This goes a bit beyond our embarrassing uncle at Thanksgiving...

JeffreyLSmith wrote:
JC wrote:

Oh look, Stephen Miller is a racist...

This goes a bit beyond our embarrassing uncle at Thanksgiving...

Yeah, Miller sent these emails when he was the communications director for a US Senator (who then became our Attorney General) and a senior policy advisor for Trump's campaign.

Also, the dude sent Breitbart editors nearly a thousand emails in 15 months. That's an average of several per day. That's a bit obsessive even for the PR guy of the chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Refugees (not to mention being exceedingly narrow outreach).

JeffreyLSmith wrote:
JC wrote:

Oh look, Stephen Miller is a racist...

This goes a bit beyond our embarrassing uncle at Thanksgiving...

That’s not what I was suggesting. He’s a racist. Anyone that is surprised by the depth of his racist tendencies hasn’t been paying attention.

If only it were a hate crime to spread hate.

New evidence shows contact between Trump official and Republican redistricting expert over census citizenship question, contradicting earlier DOJ claims

WaPo wrote:

Newly released documents show that contrary to statements by the Trump administration, a member of the president’s transition team communicated directly about adding a citizenship question to the 2020 Census with a Republican redistricting strategist who determined the question would help Republicans and non-Hispanic whites.

The documents, released Tuesday by the House Oversight and Reform Committee, show text messages about the question between transition team member Mark Neuman and the strategist, Thomas Hofeller, in the summer of 2017, at a time when other evidence shows administration members were actively discussing how the question might be added to the survey.

A Justice Department spokesman in May flatly denied allegations of contact between Hofeller and the administration. The spokesman also had said an unpublished study by Hofeller from 2015 showing the question would benefit Republicans and whites had “played no role” in the administration’s push to add the question.

But July 2, two weeks after a request from the Oversight Committee, Neuman produced documents confirming he had communicated with Hofeller and his business partner, Dalton “Dale” Oldham, on how to craft the question, according to a memo released by the committee Tuesday.

The memo cites an email sent Aug. 30, 2017, from Neuman, who was an adviser to Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross on the citizenship question, “asking Mr. Hofeller to review language for a letter Mr. Neuman was drafting to request the addition of a citizenship question.”

The letter, addressed from the Justice Department to the director of the Census Bureau, argued that data from a citizenship question was needed to ensure “compliance with requirements of the Voting Rights Act and its application in legislative redistricting,” the memo said, adding that the language Mr. Neuman sent to Mr. Hofeller was part of that draft letter.

In the email, Neuman appeared to critique one argument against adding the question: that the Census Bureau had other ways to obtain information the government wanted on citizenship.

“We understand that the Bureau personnel may believe that ACS [American Community Survey] data on citizenship was sufficient for redistricting purposes. We wanted the Bureau to be aware that two recent Court cases have underscored that ACS data is not viable and/or sufficient for purposes of redistricting,” he wrote to Hofeller, according to the memo.

A citizenship question currently appears on the ACS, which goes to a small sample of American households each year. The decennial census, which goes to all households, has not asked a citizenship-related question since 1950.

Referring to Hofeller’s partner, Mr. Neuman wrote: “Please make certain that this language is correct. Dale doesn’t return my calls,” the memo said, adding that Hofeller replied the same day, saying, “Dale just read it, and says it is fine as written.”

Neuman later sent a draft letter that included the language approved by Hofeller and Oldham to the Justice Department, according to the memo.

The Justice Department did not immediately respond to inquiries about the newly released documents.

The timing and impetus of the department’s involvement became a flash point during litigation over the question. The Justice Department wrote a letter in December 2017 requesting that the Commerce Department, which oversees the Census Bureau, add it, but documents released during the lawsuits revealed Ross had actively solicited the request from the Justice Department.

British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I’ve Read

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of sh*t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
farley3k wrote:
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

And yet here we have Boris Johnson.
Though to be fair, at least he has some wit, is pretty cunning, and sometimes knows when to keep his mouth shut.

and Boris Johnson's ridiculousness is an act he puts on to con rubes, trump is just genuinely a not that bright narcissist,

thrawn82 wrote:

and Boris Johnson's ridiculousness is an act he puts on to con rubes, trump is just genuinely a not that bright narcissist,

Nah, Trump is a con and a grifter as well.

JC wrote:
thrawn82 wrote:

and Boris Johnson's ridiculousness is an act he puts on to con rubes, trump is just genuinely a not that bright narcissist,

Nah, Trump is a con and a grifter as well.

He's a grifter, but I don't think his bumbling and his misunderstanding of trade deficits and his getting words wrong are the calculated facade of an intelligent man fooling people in the way BJs facade is.