[Discussion] The Individual 1 Administration Thread 2

Let's follow and discuss what our newest presidential administration gets up to, the good, the bad, the lawsuits, and the many many indictments.

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I listened to the Dollop about Andrew Jackson yesterday. Discovering he was a much, much horrible monster than D.T. and elected under similarly stupid circumstances might make you think you'd feel less depressed, but it doesn't. Hopefully this whole thing is just a one step back and then we can take two steps forward.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I listened to the Dollop about Andrew Jackson yesterday. Discovering he was a much, much horrible monster than D.T. and elected under similarly stupid circumstances might make you think you'd feel less depressed, but it doesn't. Hopefully this whole thing is just a one step back and then we can take two steps forward.

I do think we underestimate just how terrible some of the 19th century presidents were as people.

I mean, there were several of them who had more-or-less explicit platforms to preserve slavery or wipe out Native Americans, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising: Polk was a major slave owner whose complicity in the system set the stage for the Civil War (plus stuff like invading Mexico). Harrison tried to get slavery legalized in Indiana. The whole of the 19th century adds up to quite a rogue's gallery.

Gremlin wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I listened to the Dollop about Andrew Jackson yesterday. Discovering he was a much, much horrible monster than D.T. and elected under similarly stupid circumstances might make you think you'd feel less depressed, but it doesn't. Hopefully this whole thing is just a one step back and then we can take two steps forward.

I do think we underestimate just how terrible some of the 19th century presidents were as people.

I mean, there were several of them who had more-or-less explicit platforms to preserve slavery or wipe out Native Americans, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising: Polk was a major slave owner whose complicity in the system set the stage for the Civil War (plus stuff like invading Mexico). Harrison tried to get slavery legalized in Indiana. The whole of the 19th century adds up to quite a rogue's gallery.

Yeah, the perspective is helpful in that I do believe humanity has gotten better despite the fact that we've got such a long ways to go!

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Indeed...

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I listened to the Dollop about Andrew Jackson yesterday. Discovering he was a much, much horrible monster than D.T. and elected under similarly stupid circumstances might make you think you'd feel less depressed, but it doesn't. Hopefully this whole thing is just a one step back and then we can take two steps forward.

Hah, I'm listening to that episode right now, and indeed, what a garbage human being.

Gremlin wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I listened to the Dollop about Andrew Jackson yesterday. Discovering he was a much, much horrible monster than D.T. and elected under similarly stupid circumstances might make you think you'd feel less depressed, but it doesn't. Hopefully this whole thing is just a one step back and then we can take two steps forward.

I do think we underestimate just how terrible some of the 19th century presidents were as people.

I mean, there were several of them who had more-or-less explicit platforms to preserve slavery or wipe out Native Americans, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising: Polk was a major slave owner whose complicity in the system set the stage for the Civil War (plus stuff like invading Mexico). Harrison tried to get slavery legalized in Indiana. The whole of the 19th century adds up to quite a rogue's gallery.

The depressing thing, though, is that that’s the “Again” in MAGA.

DSGamer wrote:

The depressing thing, though, is that that’s the “Again” in MAGA.

Yep! That's exactly why this gif exists:

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Hopefully that's still around for the next time someone tries the "Make X Great Again" BS.

Gremlin wrote:

Trump to Pull Tariff Trigger at Midnight in Trade-War Escalation

President Donald Trump is preparing to slap tariffs on Chinese goods just after midnight Friday, the first shot in a trade war between the world’s two biggest economies.

Tariffs on $34 billion of Chinese goods are scheduled to take effect at 12:01 a.m. in Washington, the U.S. Trade Representative confirmed in an email Thursday. The milestone marks a new and damaging phase in a conflict that has roiled markets and cast a shadow over the global growth outlook.

So ships will be racing to Port to try to beat the deadline?

Gross.

I'd love to see the verbal gymnastics involved when someone asks if Fox is the mouthpiece of the administration.

Washington (CNN) The White House announced Thursday that former Fox News president Bill Shine has been appointed as the White House's new Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications.
A White House statement about the appointment highlighted Shine's past experience with Fox News.
"[Shine] brings over two decades of television programming, communications, and management experience to the role. Previously, Mr. Shine served as Co-President of Fox News Channel and Fox Business Network," it reads.

Pruitt is out. I wonder what could possibly be worse that will take his place...

JC wrote:

Pruitt is out. I wonder what could possibly be worse that will take his place...

I predict Cliven or Ammon Bundy.

Edit:Lolwut, WP?
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He wanted to be Attorney General. Lol.

Up next, EPA Secretary Soundwave.

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Chairman_Mao wrote:
JC wrote:

Pruitt is out. I wonder what could possibly be worse that will take his place...

I predict Cliven or Ammon Bundy.

Edit:Lolwut, WP?
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Keeping him moist isn't half bad.

I should read several posts above me before I post.

Nimcosi wrote:

I should read several posts above me before I post.

You have the ability to read, which places you head and shoulders above the current administration.

Nimcosi 2020

oilypenguin wrote:
Nimcosi wrote:

I should read several posts above me before I post.

You have the ability to read, which places you head and shoulders above the current administration.

Nimcosi 2020

Nimcosi doesn't get the whole picture but tries. Lousy slogan but we can work on it

Don't let Trump get cozy in the Oval office! Nimcosi 2020!

oilypenguin wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

This thread is missing this:

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Yeah. We made some calls last night. Consensus was we needed something worse and here we are.

Somehow I have this feeling that if I had posted that image someone would have pointed out that it was crossing the line of endorsing violence. When the movie first ran in theaters newspapers ran stories about people cheering the destruction of the White House.

I liked the original because it felt more like a commentary on what was happening rather than a wish for what would happen.

Jayhawker wrote:

I liked the original because it felt more like a commentary on what was happening rather than a wish for what would happen.

Agreed.

I like the new one better as the president was a true leader. Cosi Pullman 2020

US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

AP wrote:

Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”

Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

Spokespeople for the Pentagon and the Army said that, due to the pending litigation, they were unable to explain the discharges or respond to questions about whether there have been policy changes in any of the military branches.

Eligible recruits are required to have legal status in the U.S., such as a student visa, before enlisting. More than 5,000 immigrants were recruited into the program in 2016, and an estimated 10,000 are currently serving. Most go the Army, but some also go to the other military branches.

This is too perfect.

This should be ringing loud alarm bells. Purge the 'other' from the military and you create a much clearer path to dehumanisation for them. Ethnic monoculture in the US military is a really worrying goal. This is doubleplus ungood.

Some court-watchers are concerned that Barrett has been too explicit on abortion to be confirmable. But others speculate that overturning Roe v. Wade might be less galvanizing to progressives if a woman casts the decisive fifth vote.

Right. People who support women controlling their own bodies might believe overturning Roe v. Wade would be perfectly fine if a woman cast the vote?

What kind of peabrained politico thinks that way?

BadKen wrote:

What kind of peabrained politico thinks that way?

A bunch of the ones with a "D" after their name.

You can verify this by looking at how many vote in favor of the nominee if the nominee is a woman.

Gremlin wrote:
BadKen wrote:

What kind of peabrained politico thinks that way?

A bunch of the ones with a "D" after their name.

You can verify this by looking at how many vote in favor of the nominee if the nominee is a woman.

So... are you answering my response to a strategy voiced by conservative lawmakers (or more likely their staff) to a speculative generalization about Democrats ignoring qualifications and voting to approve nominations of women because they're women?

What percentage of female federal judges, would you say, are incompetent and were only confirmed because they are women?

Trump is apparently already back to calling the press at his events crooked media and fake news, one week after the Capital killings. Despicable.