[Discussion] Separating and/or Detaining Families at the US-Mexico Border

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Just figured we could collect this mess in one thread.

Gremlin wrote:

Texas Tribune: ICE guards ‘systematically’ sexually assault detainees in an El Paso detention center, lawyers say

Allegations include guards attacking victims in camera “blind spots” and telling them that “no one would believe” them in ICE detention centers, which imprison about 50,000 immigrants each year at a taxpayer expense of $2.7 billion.

I wonder how much tax revenue the US would be gaining from them if they were set free and allowed to work?

Her Rapist Threatened to Make Her “Disappear.” Instead of Asylum, ICE Put Her in a Hotel and Sent Her Back.

Under this new policy, the administration is not deporting children — a proceeding based on years of established law that requires a formal hearing in immigration court.

It is instead expelling them — without a judge’s ruling and after only a cursory government screening and no access to social workers or lawyers, sometimes not even their family, while in U.S. custody. The children are not even granted the primary registration number by which the Department of Homeland Security tracks all immigrants in its care, making it “virtually impossible” to find them, Efrén C. Olivares, a lawyer with the Texas Civil Rights Project, wrote in a court declaration arguing that the practice is illegal.

How many children that have been expelled in a way no one can find them were passed off into human trafficking?

Children. Can you imagine sending a child out of the country alone, to allow whatever the world brings? A world that already chars the child to the U.S., which has become the problem instead of salvation.

fangblackbone wrote:

I wonder how much tax revenue the US would be gaining from them if they were set free and allowed to work?

Compared to the money the people in charge made by turning them over to human traffickers? Children with no way to trace?

. Unpacking the Explosive Allegation That a “Uterus Collector” Is Terrorizing Immigrant Women

Apologize if this is discussed elsewhere. It feels like it fits here.

Holy hell, what sort of monsters have we enabled?

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

. Unpacking the Explosive Allegation That a “Uterus Collector” Is Terrorizing Immigrant Women

Apologize if this is discussed elsewhere. It feels like it fits here.

Holy hell, what sort of monsters have we enabled?

At the very least this is Tuskegee Experiment level stuff. If Trump wins we may be headed fo Dr Mengele and Unit 731.

Edit: realized my earlier post may have come off as too much gallows humor.

At this point I'm hoping that Germany, the UK, and the rest of the Allies come and liberate us so we can rejoin the free world.

Gremlin wrote:

Texas Tribune: ICE guards ‘systematically’ sexually assault detainees in an El Paso detention center, lawyers say

Allegations include guards attacking victims in camera “blind spots” and telling them that “no one would believe” them in ICE detention centers, which imprison about 50,000 immigrants each year at a taxpayer expense of $2.7 billion.

ICE deported a key witness in investigation of sexual assault and harassment at El Paso detention center

Texas Tribune wrote:

The U.S. government late Monday deported a crucial witness in an ongoing investigation into allegations of sexual assault and harassment at an El Paso immigrant detention center, the witness’ lawyers said.

The 35-year-old woman has been held in the facility, which is overseen by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, for about a year and told lawyers about a “pattern and practice” of abuse there, including that guards systematically assaulted her and other detainees in areas that were not visible to security cameras.

Several guards “forcibly” kissed her, and at least one touched her intimate parts, often as she was walking back from the medical unit to her barrack, according to her complaint filed with law enforcement agencies.

“If she behaved,” she said one guard told her, “he would help her be released.”

The Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General launched an investigation into the accusations after ProPublica and The Texas Tribune first reported them last month. At least two more women have since come forward with similar allegations of assault.

The inspector general requested that ICE not deport the woman and the FBI interviewed the woman extensively, according to her lawyers. Her attorneys also sent a complaint to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Texas and the El Paso County District Attorney’s Office, warning of a potential criminal investigation.

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Last Friday, lawyers filed a habeas petition in federal court asking that the woman be freed on supervised release and held in an immigrant shelter in El Paso.

They said in an interview that guards and inmates had been making intimidating comments to her following her accusations and that she felt unsafe.

She gave investigators a tour of the facility, showing where the assaults occurred in security camera blind spots, her lawyers said. Shortly after she quoted one guard telling her: “You need to watch out for yourself.”

“Everybody knows, and it just made things very difficult for her,” said her lawyer, Linda Corchado.

Three days after her habeas was filed, DHS’ inspector general reversed its earlier position and told ICE that the agency could deport the woman and investigators would further interview her by telephone from Mexico if necessary, her lawyers said.

Within hours, she had been sent back even though she says she fears persecution from drug cartels there. A high-ranking cartel member sexually assaulted her and threatened her after she reported the attack to police, according to statements she gave the U.S. government.

The government “allowed their most powerful witness to be deported,” Corchado said. “How can we possibly take this investigation seriously now or ever pretend that it ever was from the outset?”

These are all crimes against humanity. I know it won't happen, but the right thing is to simply hand over everyone involved in any of this to the ICC and be done with them.

Native American women have stories to tell you about the US government, too...

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

. Unpacking the Explosive Allegation That a “Uterus Collector” Is Terrorizing Immigrant Women

Apologize if this is discussed elsewhere. It feels like it fits here.

Holy hell, what sort of monsters have we enabled?

Best case scenario--holy sh*t, how hollow those words are--it's one rogue individual and not institutional policy.

Earlier today I had a discussion with someone from Germany about the Wannsee Conference where the Holocaust was planned out in excruciating detail.

On the one hand it put things in perspective. On the other I worry about what Stephen Miller's emails have been like.

Gremlin wrote:

On the other I worry about what Stephen Miller's emails have been like.

Oh, I bet he watched the very same movie I did back in 2001, though he clearly took it as a how-to guide.

The Onion doesn't have any f*cks left to give.

Conservative Evangelical Asks God To Give Her Strength To Incorporate Forced Hysterectomies Into Belief System

The Onion wrote:

CORDOVA, TN—Praying that the Lord Almighty would help her understand the recent whistleblower reports about Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s treatment of migrant detainees, conservative evangelical woman Melissa Carson reportedly asked God Tuesday to give her strength to incorporate forced hysterectomies into her belief system. “Lord, show me how the forced removal of the uterus from multiple imprisoned women is evidence of our salvation by grace alone,” said the devout evangelical woman, scanning her Bible for a verse or two that might offer a reason for why ICE-affiliated physicians were performing hysterectomies on detained women, many of whom did not speak English and were not given information or choice about the procedures. “I know I’m asking an awful lot of you, Lord, but my religion teaches me that all life is sacred, and although I know you move in mysterious ways, I confess I am confused as to how forced hysterectomies fit into that. You are just testing me, Lord, and I know that, but I am going to need a little bit of divine help to understand this one.” At press time, Carson was praising the Lord for his guidance after remembering that the hysterectomies were completely justified because President Donald Trump was a divine being simply carrying out God’s will.

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