Assassin's Creed Odyssey RPG-all

vypre wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

Conquest question! If you plan on defending is it advantageous to do as little as possible to trigger a conquest battle? And if you are attacking does ot help to have it as low as possible? I can't find any answers on this.

Conquest battles only trigger after you whittle down the defenses of the defending nation, but there’s nothing to prevent you from switching sides once you do it. Joining the defending side also provides less rewards than joining he attacking nation.

I will never fight for Sparta!! Athens 4 lyfe.

The thing about those conquest fights is there are a ton of dudes, but they're mostly just set dressing, you're only really looking for the captains. The extent to which you mow down other guys is either they're between you and a captain or you want to use one to build up your focus meter.

This evening I ran around Delos, and completed a quest chain. It was a nice contained location, which I think this game does very well. Odyssey is huge, and I'm thinking of it as a long TV series. Some episodes are great, some good, occasionally some bad., but overall I'm enjoying the journey.

While the game itself is huge, I'm happy that they don't keep you in one area running endless go-fetch side quests for any extended period of time. If you mainly focus on the main/side story quests, it doesnt' take long to finish a region before you're moving on to the next. I think the only area that I felt got dragged on just a little too long was Athens itself, but to be fair, that region is enormous.

I have hit a couple of leveling "walls". I think the first was right around level 18 and now another at 28. For this latest one, I think I have to hit level 32 before the main story opens back up again and I've already killed all but three of the known cultists in my list - two of which are currently too high of a level. I have quite a few other quests, but most of them are also above my level. I actually started to do the arena last night since the quest reports itself as level 25, but I think the first opponent is 29 and they only go up from there.

I don't even know how many hours I have in now. 30? 40? More? I was actually tempted to grab the XP boost last night until I saw the $10 price tag.

vypre wrote:

I actually started to do the arena last night since the quest reports itself as level 25, but I think the first opponent is 29 and they only go up from there.

You might want to check that again. I just got to the arena and the first opponent was level 22. I was 43 so I doubt mine would have been lower than yours.

I haven't been underleveled for anything since probably level 15. I can't comprehend how anybody would struggle to get xp.

I'm reading on Reddit that some chickens in this game are unholy terrors and will attack on sight. If this is true, it is too awesome for words.

I dunno about on sight but some will definitely make a ruckus if you bump into them while running past. They didn’t do enough damage to constitute anything more than an annoyance, but I wasn’t in combat with anyone at the time and I’m usually overlevelled so ymmv.

I think roosters will instantly aggro you.

Spoiler:

There is a particularly funny "kill the alpha animal location".

FYI, the no fall damage thing does not apply to your horse.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

FYI, the no fall damage thing does not apply to your horse.

I love horses, but...

I laughed just visualizing it.

(Apologies to the aphantasiacs.)

BadKen wrote:

I'm reading on Reddit that some chickens in this game are unholy terrors and will attack on sight. If this is true, it is too awesome for words.

I've been totally murderized by overleveled chickens.

polq37 wrote:
BadKen wrote:

I'm reading on Reddit that some chickens in this game are unholy terrors and will attack on sight. If this is true, it is too awesome for words.

I've been totally murderized by overleveled chickens.

There’s actually a side quest involving them. It was my first introduction to psychotic fighting chickens.

I've completed just about all I'm interested in with FH4, after about 175 hours played. I'm not done with the game - I'll be returning to it for weekly season challenges and of course for any DLC that drops, but I'm switching gears and playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey as my primary playground.

I just started and holy wowzers, I'm loving everything about it. I wasn't too sure about the RPGing, but it's better than I'd hoped. The only thing that's really bugging me is the grindiness of gathering crap for upgrades. I'll be using Cheat Engine to avoid having to run around everywhere picking up rocks and branches.

The Ultimate Edition outfits are very cool. I imagine I'll eventually replace them with legendary stuff. I suspect that will require many hours of gameplay and a lot of leveling, though.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

FYI, the no fall damage thing does not apply to your horse.

I just fell too far into the water, and the dead horse floated away in a pool of red. I felt so bad.

BadKen wrote:

The only thing that's really bugging me is the grindiness of gathering crap for upgrades.

The only mat I've run into issues with is wood. I'm currently sitting on over 400k moneys, around 9k for iron and leather, and between 3-5k for obsidian and gems. I've run out of wood several times but, aside from trees, you get some from arrow racks and a ton from naval combat.

I would suggest dismantling every piece of gear you don't need. The stuff the blacksmith sells is always garbage so there's really no point to money.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

I would suggest dismantling every piece of gear you don't need. The stuff the blacksmith sells is always garbage so there's really no point to money.

Before you have an epic or legendary in every slot, that's maybe not necessarily true, but it doesn't take long to get to that point.

I am in the opening few hours. is it always this sloggy?

Hobear wrote:

I am in the opening few hours. is it always this sloggy?

Not 100% sure what you mean? Story, controls, or gameplay? It got its hooks into me pretty quickly.

If its combat I'd highly recommend picking up the spear skill that let's you kill people from far away and the spartan kick, both skills are pretty useful. And the skill that let's you heal in combat is the best purchase you can make. If you dont like how a certain weapon controls try switching to one of the other types they are actually pretty varied.

If you are bored by the story early on I'd say it picks up, I'm still only 15hrs in but by the time I was hunting a character named the wolf I was pretty invested.

Gameplay also keeps getting layered on there is the mercenary system much like mordors nemesis system, naval combat and pirating like black flag, and a cult system that I'm just starting to discover that seems like it's about investigating and tracking targets around the world. The game is also set to the back drop of the war between Athens and Sparta which you can take part in and effect the world.

Once you leave your home island things really start to get moving. I'm loving it the world is so much fun to explore. There are tombs, hidden treasures located only by puzzles, hunts that turn into dark souls like boss battles, and such a diverse landscape it's just been a pleasure to walk around in the world and see what I can discover.

The systems may not be really deep or world changing in anyway but there is such a large variety of things to do that if you start getting bored with one it's easy to jump to something different. I'm sure I've spent over an hour of my play time just taking pictures or watching npcs walk around.

Noted, wanted to know if I was pushing through for no good reason or not. I also hear I should buy the xp advance upgrade. I'll give it another shot.

I'm early in but since quests seem to scale and there is so much content I'd save your money on the xp boost. Unless you are just wanting to mainline the story I dont see how there isnt enough to do side quest wise to keep you leveled enough to continue.

That said I'm only lvl 16 probably just under 20hrs in and have only completed what the game considered to be act 1.My next main story quest was lvl 13 to start which I was more then leveled up enough for. Unless things drastically change late game keeping leveled seems to be no issue.

I'm about the same place Rave is, and I haven't felt a need to buy the XP boost. If you're going off the articles from Forbes and Polygon, saying that they hit a main quest that was higher level so they had to grind, I absolutely disagree with that. I admittedly do a bunch of side stuff, but all the main line quests I've gotten have been my current level, and I haven't had to grind.

I will say that I think the XP curve probably assumes that you'll do some side stuff. That doesn't have to be playing completionist, but doing side quests along the way, hitting ? icons that are nearby, stuff like that. If you just beeline from main quest to main quest, I could see you having some problems, but I bet even just doing the gold-icon side quests would keep you right where you should be. I said before I played the game, and I'll say it now that I have: those two articles in particular read to me like journos trying to play quickly, having minor problems doing that, and writing a clickbait article about it.

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Rave wrote:

I'm early in but since quests seem to scale and there is so much content I'd save your money on the xp boost. Unless you are just wanting to mainline the story I dont see how there isnt enough to do side quest wise to keep you leveled enough to continue.

That said I'm only lvl 16 probably just under 20hrs in and have only completed what the game considered to be act 1.My next main story quest was lvl 13 to start which I was more then leveled up enough for. Unless things drastically change late game keeping leveled seems to be no issue.

I am lvl 29 (~40 hours in) and things haven't changed at all. Meaning that I still outlevel stuff around me without 100% all the available content.

So I agree that one would need the XP boost thing only if they are planning to do the main quest and nothing else but then again, why one would play this game like that at all is beyond me.

Why does Kassandra keep saying "hella" to her horse?

I feel like I'm in that episode of South Park where Cartman won't stop saying "hella."

I started with Kassandra, played a while (up to the Wolf), then I went back and started again with Alexios, just to see how he was. It may seem like a stupid thing, but a lot of the chest armor is formed like a muscular male torso, and I couldn't bring myself to put Kassandra in that. It'd be like putting boobplate on Alexios, I suppose. Just didn't jibe with my idea of the character.

Anyway, I really like Alexios' voice acting, too. It may be my imagination, but it also seems to me that he has some unique combat moves. The only problem is his beard is giving me an extreme uncanny valley vibe. I guess I could leave a helmet on him, but all the cutscenes are sans helmet.

So I think I'll switch back to Kassandra. Her voice actor is magnificent. Even though she is delivering the same lines, it seems like she puts a little more of a snarky edge on them, and I like that for a mercenary. Also, hey, first female Assassin's Creed solo protagonist - don't want to miss out on that.

BadKen wrote:

Also, hey, first female Assassin's Creed solo protagonist - don't want to miss out on that.

There's Aveline from Liberation, although it's probably not surprising if hardly anyone has played that since I believe it originally was a Vita exclusive then got remastered/ported later.

Badken she is saying the Greek word for “come on”

BadKen wrote:

I started with Kassandra, played a while (up to the Wolf), then I went back and started again with Alexios, just to see how he was. It may seem like a stupid thing, but a lot of the chest armor is formed like a muscular male torso, and I couldn't bring myself to put Kassandra in that. It'd be like putting boobplate on Alexios, I suppose. Just didn't jibe with my idea of the character.

RPS could've saved you some time.

It sounds like the voice actors definitely had slightly different takes on the characters, and the animators supported those differences in major interactions, which is great. I doubt I'll go back and play through with the dude, but it's nice to know there's subtle differences if I did.

TheGameguru wrote:

Badken she is saying the Greek word for “come on”

No I heard the whole game was vastly inspired by Carman as a female spartan. Just wait until you meet Scott Tennerman later and have a romance before meeting his parents. Awkward....

TheGameguru wrote:

Badken she is saying the Greek word for “come on”

I figured it was something like that

https://translate.google.com/#en/el/...

juv3nal wrote:
BadKen wrote:

Also, hey, first female Assassin's Creed solo protagonist - don't want to miss out on that.

There's Aveline from Liberation, although it's probably not surprising if hardly anyone has played that since I believe it originally was a Vita exclusive then got remastered/ported later.

That's true, and I did try to play Liberation, but I never finished it. The PC version was just a little too rough around the edges for me. Traversal and combat didn't feel quite right, and although the graphics were updated for PC and consoles, Liberation looked nowhere near as good as AC3, released at the same time.

I do like the character of Aveline!