Yo dawg, I heard you like games...

... so I put a game in your game.

I thought of this as we discussed the lack of an 8-bit game in the arcade in Far Cry 5.

I have a thing with games where you can play old games in the game.

In Wolfenstein II you can play Wolfenstein 3D, but it's a different version of the classic where you don't kill nazis but terrorists instead. A comment on the game story through the game history.

In Yakuza O there's an arcade where you can play classics like Space Harrier, Outrun, Super Hangon and Fantasy Zone (I love Fantasy Zone!).

I find this a brillant way to pay homage to gaming history and a fun way to make a game emulation.

Which other games can you think of that have an old game built in?

And mods doesn't count, although I like stories like the one about someone who made a computer in the original Doom able to play Doom, so you could play Doom in Doom. A hall of mirrors.

Commander Keen had PaddleWar (Pong clone).

Maniac Mansion inside Day of the Tentacle. Space Harrier inside Shenmue.

Animal Crossing had a slew of NES games tucked away in it

Demontower inside Night in the Woods if you're looking for an indie example

Partydiktator wrote:

In Yakuza O there's an arcade where you can play classics like Space Harrier, Outrun, Super Hangon and Fantasy Zone (I love Fantasy Zone!).

The Yakuza series has a long history of this. Yakuza 5 (I believe it's 5) has full versions of Taiko Drum Master and Virtua Fighter 2.

Yakuza 6 will have an even more recent version of Virtua Fighter in it. Nuts.

Donkey Kong 64 had an in-game arcade with Jetpac and the original Donkey Kong.

Does the way 2004 Bard's Tale included the original trilogy, or the unlockable VIC-20 and C-64 versions in Gridrunner Revolution, count?

COD WWII has a bunch of, I think, old Atari games as part of the 'community' headquarters area.

Rezzy wrote:

Commander Keen had PaddleWar (Pong clone).

As in the first Commander Keen? That must have been one of the first that did it then. I never played the game, but I know some of my friends did.

shoptroll wrote:

Demontower inside Night in the Woods if you're looking for an indie example

Yes, and it's an excellent game too. I didn't finish it though. Got stuck on a boss fight.

Which reminds me that Observer has a 4-bit dungeon crawler.

misplacedbravado wrote:

Does the way 2004 Bard's Tale included the original trilogy, or the unlockable VIC-20 and C-64 versions in Gridrunner Revolution, count?

I don't know. How did that work? I've never played any of those games though I of course heard/read of Bard's Tale.

Kid Galahad had Lemmings inside.

Tyrian 2000 had a whole Scorched Earth minigame inside of it that you could access with a cheat code.

As a recent example, Celeste has an "8-bit" version of itself (the original incarnation)... inside itself.

It is an older example, but Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure contained the original Pitfall! (at least the PC version that I played in the late 90's did).

Partydiktator wrote:

I don't know. How did that work? I've never played any of those games though I of course heard/read of Bard's Tale.

The old games are options in the new games' starting menus. In the case of Gridrunner, you have to unlock them by finishing certain levels of the new game, but for Bard's Tale, they're just there.

Warriorpoet897 wrote:

Maniac Mansion inside Day of the Tentacle.

That was the first one that came to mind for me. I remember reading about their decision process on that: including the entire first game, plus the emulation code to make it work, took less space than one screen bitmap for a room. When they realized just how tiny the first game was, that moved the feature way up the priority list.

There probably won't be another generational shift quite that massive. Day of the Tentacle was full talkie, and took up most of a CD. Including a several hundred megabyte subgame inside a modern title would be a much larger hit than 200K extra on a CD.

Gwent in Witcher 3. Does that count?

Panzer Dragoon Orta had the original in it. I thought that was great since you'd have to have an ancient console to play it. If I understand right, though, you had to do some weird/difficult thing to access it. They should have just put it on the start screen.

Uncharted 4 had Crash Bandicoot.

If you become good enough friends with Abigail in Stardew Valley, you can play Journey of the Prarie King on her SNES-like console.

Glittermitten Grove had the very new game Frog Fractions 2 hidden inside of it, like a delicious Kickstart chestburster. link

Surprised nobody mentioned Final Fantasy VII.

Fort Condor RTS mini game. Golden Saucer minigames - arm wrestling, the bike, snowboarding, chocobo racing, submarine hunt.

misplacedbravado wrote:
Partydiktator wrote:

I don't know. How did that work? I've never played any of those games though I of course heard/read of Bard's Tale.

The old games are options in the new games' starting menus. In the case of Gridrunner, you have to unlock them by finishing certain levels of the new game, but for Bard's Tale, they're just there.

Ah ok. No, it should be games planted as a part of the game world.

Dakhath wrote:

Gwent in Witcher 3. Does that count?

I should have been more precise. It needs to be video games part of the game world of another video game. My bad.

Yoyoson wrote:

If you become good enough friends with Abigail in Stardew Valley, you can play Journey of the Prarie King on her SNES-like console.

Note to self: Become friends with Abigail. I actually just started up a new game as I bought Stardew Valley on my Switch and this time around I'm gonna be more social. The first time I played it I got caught up in work, work, work. All that mattered was to make more money, make the farm bigger. I totally missed the point and nobody wanted to dance with me at the Flower dance. It's gonna be different the second time around. And I'm going to play video games with my new friends!

Astro Chicken!!!

Night in the Woods had Blood Tower!

Easily over 30% of my 110 hour play time was this.

Doom (2016) has a secret on each level that's a small fragment of a level from the original Doom. Find it and it unlocks the full version of the original level to play.

In Minerva's Den, the DLC for Bioshock 2 you can play an Asteroids like game called Spitfire.

maverickz wrote:

Astro Chicken!!!

Yep. When I saw the thread title this was the first thing I thought of.

There was a very aesthetically pleasing Pong on Alien Breed's green-screen computer terminals. Oh how I loved Alien Breed...

Grenn wrote:

Easily over 30% of my 110 hour play time was this.

Which reminds me... Might & Magic VI (and VII and VIII) had Arcomage

This is an obscure one but the casino games in James Bond 007 for Gameboy were memorable from my childhood. It's the only time I ever played baccarat! They had Black Jack in there too.

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Marrakech_Casino

The GamePig in System Shock 2, especially the awesome Overworld Zero cartridge.

I remember Donkey Kong 64 had the original plus Jetpac. Nice to include an homage to the history of both Donkey Kong and Rare.

Fight Night Round 3 had Super Punch Out included in the GameCube version. Kind of seems a little odd that EA would go to that effort for it, but I'm glad they did as I probably ended up spending more time in that than the main game.