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I'm still a bit fuzzy on what you need to do to get the other masks with the first one. Is it just full clear, or are there specific goals?

thrawn82 wrote:

I'm still a bit fuzzy on what you need to do to get the other masks with the first one. Is it just full clear, or are there specific goals?

Just clear hard zones with any mask active. So clear Rexxar with any mask active gets you Rexxar's mask. Clearing the other zone behind Zappyboi's with any mask active gets you that zones mask. Literally JUST clearing that area though is required, nothing else is, though you can do whatever you want after. Long Night is a pain in the ass though, I'd recommend doing basically beeline to the area behind Zappy with Long Night on and get whatever that mask is, then use that one to clear Rexxar's area.

OOH! ha i wish i'd known that. i would have started on a hard zone. i guess my own fault for not looking it up ahead of time instead of assuming it required a full clear.

thrawn82 wrote:

OOH! ha i wish i'd known that. i would have started on a hard zone. i guess my own fault for not looking it up ahead of time instead of assuming it required a full clear.

Nope, you need a full clear to get that first mask, but after that, just clear a hard zone with any mask active. Given we did this when we had more attempts free thanks to lower weekly upgrade requirements... we basically did the first mask acquisition run as JUST that. Ignored everything else, skipped right to the hard zone with long night, then futzed around after. Then used the other mask to get the 2nd available one from that vision. The other two after will be the two hard zones for the other vision, so it does take two weeks to get all of them available.

Just an unfortunate irony that the hardest mask is the first one you get, Long Night. I would have suggested Daredevil as the best "first" mask to give, but the best mask to run (and I do not remember which comes from where right now) is probably Burned Bridge, especially as a solo player, outside of a few specific boss encounters (including Thrall and Alleria), BB's effect is pretty negligible, and if you box yourself in, there's only like a 6 or 7 second delay... but even then, I've found most "jumps" will bypass even that sanity damage, fel rush, infernal strike, blink, heroic leap, et all. If I'm not mistaken, even just jumping over them while running can do it... it's just limited arena/hard to move bosses where that gets tricky.

Can I just say that I hate having cloak progression tied to quests? Few things are as frustrating as accidentally pulling the last wing boss while you're low, not being able to drop an orb, and losing out with only one quest item remaining. Now I have to grind out another whole trip just for one tiny fraction of a level. Screw that, I'm going to see about fixing dinner before raid.

Vargen wrote:

Can I just say that I hate having cloak progression tied to quests? Few things are as frustrating as accidentally pulling the last wing boss while you're low, not being able to drop an orb, and losing out with only one quest item remaining. Now I have to grind out another whole trip just for one tiny fraction of a level. Screw that, I'm going to see about fixing dinner before raid.

I will admit, I'm not a fan of it... but given my guild's lack of forward momentum on N'zoth in Normal and hitting the harder bosses in Heroic... I'm also not a fan of two weeks from now requiring that normal kill for more Corruption Resistance. Gonna be getting half the upgrades if we don't make some rather large progress after skipping him for two weeks.

Also, hoooooly jeebus, that was stressful, but I got there.

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Demosthenes wrote:

I will admit, I'm not a fan of it... but given my guild's lack of forward momentum on N'zoth in Normal and hitting the harder bosses in Heroic... I'm also not a fan of two weeks from now requiring that normal kill for more Corruption Resistance. Gonna be getting half the upgrades if we don't make some rather large progress after skipping him for two weeks.

We had to change up tanks to get past N'zoth. I've been tanking on my Monk for us most of the time for this tier but for N'zoth I swap out for one of our Paladins. They get extra interrupts, which makes dealing with the inside dude a lot easier. Before that we were having trouble keeping him interrupted while also killing the tentacles in a timely fashion.

those fights in LFR were unholy nightmares. comparable to Zek trash or Achemond in Warlords before they nerfed him in lfr

Vargen wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

I will admit, I'm not a fan of it... but given my guild's lack of forward momentum on N'zoth in Normal and hitting the harder bosses in Heroic... I'm also not a fan of two weeks from now requiring that normal kill for more Corruption Resistance. Gonna be getting half the upgrades if we don't make some rather large progress after skipping him for two weeks.

We had to change up tanks to get past N'zoth. I've been tanking on my Monk for us most of the time for this tier but for N'zoth I swap out for one of our Paladins. They get extra interrupts, which makes dealing with the inside dude a lot easier. Before that we were having trouble keeping him interrupted while also killing the tentacles in a timely fashion.

Ours is likely (I’m part of group 2 so based on comms) a DPS problem inside. Tank has never died but apparently they’re getting the buff to 5 and not able to finish him off in time before it drops off and then run out of time before he makes all his sh*t appear outside of the mind realm.

Side note, melee with any kind of love of Crit, Blood of the Enemy is so good for solo-ing Visions. That and any AOE damage corruption effects you might have (level 1 TD for me). Gushing wounds isn’t bad as a single target option, but only a few bosses are purely ST and the figment adds from Dark Imagination means they’re generally not worth it anyway. No fight save maybe Thrall should last long enough for you to get that many stacks of IS anyway.

I still hate that Garona zone boss though. Launching you that high for any hit with torrent, but the other bolts being able to randomly hit you at that max height is so annoying. Grrrrrrr.

But 5 masked it with my Cheat Death

Assuming the world doesn't go completely WPL in the next week, essences will be account-wide starting Tuesday.

Your alts will get a soulbound token that will give you access to all* Rank 3 essences that your main has already obtained.

* (I think it's all; at the very least it's most.)

Light be praised, amirite?

I wish the existing essences were account bound, rather than creating a new item. I just deleted a whole heap (~90) of sparks of whatever, because I've already used them for every spec (x4) on my druid

Would someone be kind enough to explain Mechagon to me please? I went on hiatus from about the time N’zoth’s first raid in the dazar’alor tier was still meta. Basically I left right as the unstable mana pearl appeared and I came back 2 weeks into the most recent patch, I was leveling alts and just now started on mechagon and Naz. I understand the latter but not the former. Any help is appreciated, I want those sweet, sweet mechagnome racials. I collect everything that can be obtained except achievements, but including races

Wanted to specify. I don’t know how the rares/rep gain work. Do I get rep for doing the dungeon, or do I just want to spam all the rares everyday?

With Mechagon you basically show up and do all the quests. Then come back another day and do more quests. There's a special crafting that you can do there, and you can get some of the high-end mats for it from the dungeon, but otherwise it doesn't seem to be that closely related. I got all my essences and the mechanical spider mount and I only did the dungeon twice, once all in one go and each half once after it was put into the Mythic system.

Dr.Incurable wrote:

Wanted to specify. I don’t know how the rares/rep gain work. Do I get rep for doing the dungeon, or do I just want to spam all the rares everyday?

The main thing to do is make sure that you do the world quest that pops up each day when you first go to mechagon, it's a buttload of rep compared with the daily quests etc.

Sonicator wrote:
Dr.Incurable wrote:

Wanted to specify. I don’t know how the rares/rep gain work. Do I get rep for doing the dungeon, or do I just want to spam all the rares everyday?

The main thing to do is make sure that you do the world quest that pops up each day when you first go to mechagon, it's a buttload of rep compared with the daily quests etc.

Each rare's first kill gives you rep. Each battle pet's first defeat also gives you a quest that gives you a decent chunk of rep (so if that's a thing you can do, it's worth it, though I'd recommend turning them in during the Darkmoon Faire). There are also some rare fish that can also be turned in once a day for some minor rep gains... but the majority of your rep is going to be the WQ and the daily quests in the zone. The "story" quest campaign is some rep and ends with a mount.

Enix wrote:

Assuming the world doesn't go completely WPL in the next week, essences will be account-wide starting Tuesday.

Your alts will get a soulbound token that will give you access to all* Rank 3 essences that your main has already obtained.

* (I think it's all; at the very least it's most.)

Light be praised, amirite?

I don;t think you just get them, i think you get the ability to purchase them on your alt with a new grindable currency.

thrawn82 wrote:
Enix wrote:

Assuming the world doesn't go completely WPL in the next week, essences will be account-wide starting Tuesday.

Your alts will get a soulbound token that will give you access to all* Rank 3 essences that your main has already obtained.

* (I think it's all; at the very least it's most.)

Light be praised, amirite?

I don;t think you just get them, i think you get the ability to purchase them on your alt with a new grindable currency.

Which apparently will come from doing 8.3 activities. So I'm assuming from the daily quests, lesser visions, maybe greater visions and raid?

thats what it sounds like.It seems ok to me. You get the currency for doing the current stuff you want to do on the alt anyway, and its way easier than trying to get the essences by meeting their conditions now.

i think i read there is an exception for naz and mecha rep ones, if you've got one (or maybe just one at 3?) it also opens up the rep essences for your alts for the other specs (like i've got a hunter, but if i make a healing alt they can get the healing naz essence)

thrawn82 wrote:
Enix wrote:

Assuming the world doesn't go completely WPL in the next week, essences will be account-wide starting Tuesday.

Your alts will get a soulbound token that will give you access to all* Rank 3 essences that your main has already obtained.

* (I think it's all; at the very least it's most.)

Light be praised, amirite?

I don;t think you just get them, i think you get the ability to purchase them on your alt with a new grindable currency.

That's what I get for reading the Wowhead description and not checking the blue text.

Which says: "(M)ost ordinary Visions of N’Zoth activities, such as Horrific Visions, Assaults, raid bosses, Mythic Keystone Dungeons, or BFA Season 4 PvP, will award a new soulbound currency – Echoes of Ny’alotha," which can then be converted to an essence.

Nothing about WQs, boo. I'd honestly prefer not to run my lightly-geared alts through 8.3 content; doing it once on one toon is plenty and doing it a second time on my Horde alt is more than enough.

Thanks guys! Much appreciated. Does the dungeon give any rep at all, or should I just do it for loot and such?

Mechagon does give some mech rep from each boss, but i don;'t think it's a big factor in the grind compaired to the dailies

If y'all think Mech is a grind, wait till you try the two new invasion reps!

Granted, I'm just doing the one major and two minor events each week (and have skipped some weeks) and I see no immediate end to those grinds.

They're not hard; just long unless you're all in and doing dailies each day even if you've knock out the actual invasions. Even then, it looks long.

Yeah I have the cloak and I just dislike that grind. I'd rather do Mechagon first so I can get the new race. I'll have all of them after that.

Enix wrote:

If y'all think Mech is a grind, wait till you try the two new invasion reps!

Granted, I'm just doing the one major and two minor events each week (and have skipped some weeks) and I see no immediate end to those grinds.

They're not hard; just long unless you're all in and doing dailies each day even if you've knock out the actual invasions. Even then, it looks long.

Most realms should have Contracts up now so you get some bonus rep doing other WQs too.

There's only so much you can productively do per day for the various grinds. When I realized I was close to getting what I needed out of Mechagon I just added it into my rotation with the N'Zoth stuff on days when I bothered playing. It was a lot less annoying just getting the low-hanging fruit in all three places rather than trying to squeeze all the value out of a single zone.

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Now just gotta wait for my usual partner to get on and I'll have the cloak done too (that was done at rank 14), then... yeah. Will have both rank 4 essences (I honestly forget what the tank one is... and looked it up and meh, haven't needed it yet, but we'll see) for that too and Wrathion's backpack... then the grind to get that mount before I start worrying about socketing everything.

ugh i forgot about sockets... but i DO want that backpack real bad

thrawn82 wrote:

ugh i forgot about sockets... but i DO want that backpack real bad

The sockets, I think are like 5-ish runs of getting everything on 4-5 masks. All chests, all odd crystals, etc... Sockets would be handy, but I'd rather get the mount first, then the sockets, we likely have plenty of time this expansion and I don't have a lot of "absolutely BIS" gear yet so... meh.