WoW: Battle for Azeroth (8.1 patch drops Dec. 11)

Well, I definitely get killed quickly when someone from the other faction feels like attacking me for sure!

Stay in Vanilla WoW areas until 63. You don't want to spend any more time in Outlands or Northrend than you have too. I recommend Howling Fjord over any of the others. Be sure to queue for dungeons always and all the way up to 98 (when you can go to the Legion content)
Be sure to keep your heirlooms upgraded to at least 100.

If you do not have any other characters at level 100+, the odds are you will be wasting your boost. (which is easy to do). When I say waste, I mean boost a class that you end up not wanting to play or that isn't a whole lot of fun in Legion. You will be overwhelmed. There are only a select few classes that can handle the majority of what Legion can throw at you.

Once you hit 70 you can create a demon hunter which is a wonderful way to experience Legion for the first time.

At lvl 80 or so (quite a bit easier when you get to 81-82) you can start soloing trash in Karazhan, and pretty much skip 80-90 because it goes so deliciously fast.

Edit: 80 means 70!
70-80 is the karazhan sweet spot.

Well, this boosted class does not matter as much because I'll be starting a void elf at 1 with a friend

Good advice though, thanks!

Well, this boosted class does not matter as much because I'll be starting a void elf at 20 with a friend

Fixed!

Fwiw I’m quite enjoying the 80s in Pandaria. The zones are beautiful, some of the quests are very lighthearted, and I’m leveling every 40 min-hour, faster if I dungeon.

Oh, true, Pandaria was fine, and I was wrong regarding the Karazhan method, it is 70-80, so just in the worst Outlands/Northrend drag.

So I have been working my way through the legion content trying to unlock flying and doing the occasional LFR. I’m currently at ilvl 890 and am a little lost on how to up it. Want to finish the mage tower but I’m told I should be at least 910 before taking that fight on.

I’m in a guild that is doing heroic raids which I’m not geared for. Should I do PUG normal raids to get better gear?

Absolutely loving WOW and especially Legion the past few months. I even really liked Draenor, may go back to finish off my garrison for fun.

LFR gear + a couple legos should see you a lot higher than that. I usually target the LFR armor set on my alts as a 'target' - you can see what drops from who by going collections/appearances/sets and mousing over the gear.

Run a random heroic per day - between that and the LFR bosses you'll accumulate wakening essence which you can trade in for legendaries (or upgrade your old ones)

Use the veiled argonite on Argus to target slots you are low in Ilevel - especially useful I find for relic slots. Also hit up the greater invasion on Argus once a week and coin it - drops some 930 gear.

Goo wrote:

LFR gear + a couple legos should see you a lot higher than that. I usually target the LFR armor set on my alts as a 'target' - you can see what drops from who by going collections/appearances/sets and mousing over the gear.

Run a random heroic per day - between that and the LFR bosses you'll accumulate wakening essence which you can trade in for legendaries (or upgrade your old ones)

Use the veiled argonite on Argus to target slots you are low in Ilevel - especially useful I find for relic slots. Also hit up the greater invasion on Argus once a week and coin it - drops some 930 gear.

Thank you, that's super helpful. I did not know about waking essences, will work on accumulating those! So far I have one legendary that I got as a random drop. I was vaguely aware of veiled argonite (I know I have some), will check that vendor out.

If you are not in a guild that is doing normal raid runs, do you just look for premades in raid finder and join in? I'm assuming that is a way to progress or is that not much better than LFR?

Yeh it is, but most PUG raid leaders are kinda dicks and will only accept OTT ilevel applicants - they are just farming and dont want to actually.. y'know.. lead a raid. Autopilot it so to speak, get a bunch of guys that are just farming for transmog or whatever and are way outgearing the thing

Do a search, read the descriptions, you may find what you need though. For instance a social guild doing an alt run and just needing some spots filled might be more accommodating

It is a bit easier if you can run a healing spec, they are usually in demand and you can pick up a group a bit easier

You can push to 920-930 i level pretty easy though with just LFR and the stuff I mentioned which is plenty for having a go at the tower

Not going to be too many chances to do the tower going forward. Its popping up every 8 or 9 days I think, and if we assume it'l be turned off once the prepatch hits and the new class mechanics are active, probably means mid july.

so 3 or 4 more maybe? if thats the case.

M+ also a great way of gearing. At minimum run a m+ 2 per week - best chance of getting a lego is from that weekly cache. Ease into it and learn the affixes (they dont become a factor till M+4).

http://www.wowhead.com/mythic-keysto...

Also - play through the argus questline and theres a basic Lego ring as a quest reward for killing argus. It'll do till you get something better

Thanks for the tips, that’s super helpful. Given the new xpac coming soon, I’m probably best off just working on unlocking flying and maybe doing LFR so I can se everything in tourist mode. Kinda silly to worry about gearing up this late in the game.

Probably, though if theres a mage tower skin that catches your eye.... *shiny*

If you pre-ordered the digital deluxe edition, do you get access to that extra stuff right away? Could have sworn I saw someone riding the raptor that comes with the deluxe edition yesterday.

Mr E.B. Slugworth wrote:

If you pre-ordered the digital deluxe edition, do you get access to that extra stuff right away? Could have sworn I saw someone riding the raptor that comes with the deluxe edition yesterday.

Yeh, you get all the goodies for WoW and other games right away.

My go-to for getting legendary items: the Blingtron. I sh*t you not I've had at least three leggos drop from that damn thing.

As for gearing up, my paladin main is i940 (or close) from running all the LFRs at least once, doing a handful of mythics, grinding out Argus tokens (i.e. Veiled Argunite) and popping into a few greater Argus invasions. My tactic is seat time and luck -- every once in a while something you buy with an Argus token (i910) will upgrade itself to i920 or i930 or so.

Otherwise the rest of my 110s are somewhere between i880 and i900, depending on whether they've gotten any legendaries or not.

On another topic: Has anyone leveled enchanting to 900? What did you do to get the mats to grind out the last 40 or so points? I sense a lot of farming/crafting/disenchanting in my future but there's gotta be an easier way.

I sense a lot of farming/crafting/disenchanting in my future but there's gotta be an easier way.

A better way than grinding? Someone check Enix's temperature. I think they forgot that they were playing WoW ;P

New comic short of the Windrunner Sisters meeting up after Legion. Interesting Story advancement. Hopefully Sylvanas doesn't completely go off the deep end forcing a new Warchief.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/st...

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So do they not always test warfronts and expeditions?

So is this the kinda thing where "streamers" are allowed to post stuff? Or is the NDA lax?
Because I am really excited to share some stuff on class changes.

edit: looks like no NDA so here goes:
assassination rogue changes = YES YES YES, so much fun to play, probably the fav of what I've played
subtlety rogue = marginally better than pre BFA but it was already my favorite, except assassination is now my fav
outlaw rogue = probably useful in AOE dps but lacking in the solo questing fun department
ret paladin changes = blast to play and rounds out the pally nicely
survival hunter = another winner, nice diversity with ranged/melee powers
shadow priest = a lot more fun to play so no need to only spec discipline, don't even really have to use "super shadow mode" to be effective or fun
enhancement shaman = good enough to play, not as awesome as others in this list but not a paper tiger either (could be subtle changes to the heal that makes it instant if maelstrom is available)
fury warrior = changes are positive but the jury is out on whether it is just good enough or actually a fun rotation

Also magar orcs and dark iron dwarves FTW
I'm not getting too far into each of the stories but they are really strong. The Blair Witch style quest zone sold me so much in the first 10 minutes that I stopped playing it till release.

Big huge downer = expeditions are unlocked at level 115 and are account wide for level 110's
I really wanted to level a lot of characters via expeditions so I am pissed they did that. I mean wtf is scaling for if everything is still going to be gated?

fangblackbone wrote:

I'm not getting too far into each of the stories but they are really strong. The Blair Witch style quest zone sold me so much in the first 10 minutes that I stopped playing it till release.

Yeah I kept running into that problem too. The blair witch zone is cool, the sea priest zone is cool, the creepy swamp zone is cool, the big-ass desert zone is cool. The pirate zone I wasn't so fussed by so I played through a bit more of to test the levelling - and even that's still pretty solid, pirates just aren't really my jam.

Yeah I kept running into that problem too. The blair witch zone is cool, the sea priest zone is cool, the creepy swamp zone is cool, the big-ass desert zone is cool. The pirate zone I wasn't so fussed by so I played through a bit more of to test the levelling - and even that's still pretty solid, pirates just aren't really my jam.

100% agree with this.

Further on classes:
DK unholy = bummed that my abom is gone but it seems the extra pet talent is more useful + it is more fun to play (army of the dead is on huge cooldown but impressive as it should be)
DK blood = some side grades, some bonuses, somewhat more straightforward to play, still really solid
DK frost = more refined plus a cool mini blizzard like talent
Mage fire = probably the only spec I would play (I haven't tried arcane yet)
Mage frost = seemed much simpler to play at low levels in 7.3.5, much more complex at high levels that I can't tell is from BFA changes or not

Well, I'm still really enjoying the game. Hit 82 last night on my Affliction Warlock. He's not the fastest to level but has amazing survival skills.

I will be gone next week and won't be able to level so that's kind of a bummer. I am really loving the leveling experience so far and how everything scales. That being said, I have not looked up any lock changes or even if I'd understand them. I've never played one up to max level so learning as I go, will worry about any changes (good or bad) when the time comes. I did have a coworker say demonology will make me giggle as you get an army of things around you. That sounds intriguing

I also got in the beta this weekend and agree with the above sentiments. Ret pally is a lot of fun and I also quite enjoyed demo lock. It finally feels like a proper minion master class and some of the new minions like vile fiend have this really cool HR Giger feel.

On my main I’m finishing up Pandaria but really struggling with dungeons. Either I pull back to stay alive in boss fights only to get yelled at for moar DPS, or I try to go balls to the wall only to die. Destro has some long wind up spells so I keep getting caught in AOEs. It also doesn’t help that I don’t know the encounters and when I ask for help I get kicked. Sigh.

I'm about 1k away from Argussian Revered so my quest to play a Void Elf with a friend for launch is definitely doable!

Destro Warlock in BFA = the bomb! So much burst and so awesome. It is definitely the lock spec I will play
demon lock = nifty to have all the pets around but the attack spells are just okay. I like the "sacrifice" talent skill
affliction lock = capable and was my favorite spec but has been superseded by the others. drain soul is a talent now and does not heal. But we get drain life that heals, an instant life tap dot talent and there are some great survivability talents

But seriously, it sucks that this late destro talent has a 22 second cooldown. It is sort of like arcane torrent from d3 that works on an enemy you cast immolate on. I could seriously do that rotation all day... I'm not kidding.

karmajay wrote:

I'm about 1k away from Argussian Honored so my quest to play a Void Elf with a friend for launch is definitely doable!

It slows down after you hit revered. Don't give up!

Couple of tips.
Do the weekly quests for 50 veiled argonite and 3 invasion points. Each of those give 1,000 rep for Army of Light and Argussian Reach.

Do the Argus campaign to unlock Mac'aree (which will get you to about honored). Once you unlock this area you will get a world quest that gives you a 250 account bound rep token. Do the world quest that gives the 250 token for rep with as many alts as you have daily. The 250 rep token is account bound so you can mail it to your main. Funny video explaining this here.
Fastest Reputation Farm for Argussian Reach and Army of the Light

Once you've unlocked all of Argus you will get the Emissary quests so do those for 1,500 rep for completing 4 WQ.

The elite world quests also give you 75 rep a piece. Not a quick way but good non-the-less and you will get gear and weapon powerups.

Farm the invasion points as well. Not only do you get a chance at rep tokens but you can get Legendaries. I've gotten 2 Legendaries in the past week doing this.

There is also Order Hall missions that give rep tokens so watch for those.

Right I should have said I'm on road to 21k rep now. I do all the daily world quests in the 3 Argussian zones and any weeklies and emissary when they pop up. I have not been able to do the order hall missions because I've trying to get a few followers up to 100 since that is new to me. Thanks!

Can you get a reward more than once for an invasion point a day?