NFL 2018 Offseason Thread

DeAngelo Hall kinda sorta throws Kirk Cousins under the bus that he wasn't fully committed last season. I don't think Hall makes particularly horrible comments, they make sense, but holy sh*t DeAngelo Hall is still playing football?

garion333 wrote:

DeAngelo Hall kinda sorta throws Kirk Cousins under the bus that he wasn't fully committed last season. I don't think Hall makes particularly horrible comments, they make sense, but holy sh*t DeAngelo Hall is still playing football?

He just retired after this season. They tried to make him a safety but got hurt too many times.

but holy sh*t DeAngelo Hall is still playing football?

Barely. He hasn't been on the field very much.

He was 34 last year, which is old but younger than I expected. Way behind Terrance Newman.

As for his comments...

We obviously wanted Kirk. We franchised him because we wanted him there. It was up to ownership and the front office to kind of work those numbers out. They couldn’t get the numbers worked out, so he signed franchise tags those two football seasons. Everybody in that locker room was behind Kirk, wanted him there, but we wanted to feel like he wanted to be there as well.

Dude, the team rejected reasonable contract counteroffers from Cousins and his agent those first two years, and then rejected the trade offer to San Francisco that would have gotten him the long-term deal last offseason that Washington refused to offer. No sh*t he didn't want to be there anymore.

Hall should recognize that feeling, given that his demand for a trade is what ended his time in Atlanta.

Michael Bennett traded to Philly. Must be the end of the Seahawks Legion of Boom. Part of me is a little side for the inevitable. Another part of me is thrilled if the Seahawks can return to mediocrity. Every person is Vancouver suddenly became a football and Seahawks fan despite not watching a single regular season game.

Adding another $6.6m on their cap puts Philadelphia at a little over $15m in the red on their 2018 cap, which they have to get under by March 14th.

Cutting (or trading) Torrey Smith will open up $5 mil, but it gets harder after that.

This probably means Vinny Curry is gone, which opens up another $5 mil.

After that? I think the team has to look at dumping Jason Peters to save $4 mil. Also, Brent Celek can be cut to save $4 mil, but losing both Celek and Trey Burton does not put them in a good spot TE-wise.

Maybe a contract extension with Brandon Graham that tries to bring his 2018 cap hit down, but there's probably only $2m or so to be had there.

And then we're back to the idea of needing to move Foles. Apparently Philly has received a 2nd round trade offer from an AFC team, but they are putting the price for Foles at a 1st and a 4th.

Vector wrote:

Michael Bennett traded to Philly. Must be the end of the Seahawks Legion of Boom. Part of me is a little side for the inevitable. Another part of me is thrilled if the Seahawks can return to mediocrity. Every person is Vancouver suddenly became a football and Seahawks fan despite not watching a single regular season game.

Seattle is heading swiftly towards rebuild time. Richard Sherman apparently spent yesterday telling teammates goodbye, as he expects to be headed out the door shortly behind Bennett. Kam Chancellor is eating up a good bit of cap (especially since the Seahawks kept him on the roster, guaranteeing his 2018 salary) and may not play. Cliff Avril may not play either, but he *can* be cut for cap space.

Probably going to be a lot of drafting defense for Seattle next month.

*Legion* wrote:

Adding another $6.6m on their cap puts Philadelphia at a little over $15m in the red on their 2018 cap, which they have to get under by March 14th.

Cutting (or trading) Torrey Smith will open up $5 mil, but it gets harder after that.

This probably means Vinny Curry is gone, which opens up another $5 mil.

After that? I think the team has to look at dumping Jason Peters to save $4 mil. Also, Brent Celek can be cut to save $4 mil, but losing both Celek and Trey Burton does not put them in a good spot TE-wise.

Maybe a contract extension with Brandon Graham that tries to bring his 2018 cap hit down, but there's probably only $2m or so to be had there.

And then we're back to the idea of needing to move Foles. Apparently Philly has received a 2nd round trade offer from an AFC team, but they are putting the price for Foles at a 1st and a 4th.

Did Philly need Bennett? Like, seriously.

Giants pick up linebacker Ogletree in a trade with the Rams! Very excited about this one as the Giants are thin in the LB position and this guy is only 26.

That makes sense, he's a 4-3 fit more than 3-4 which is why he was drafted by Jeff Fisher.

garion333 wrote:

Did Philly need Bennett? Like, seriously.

Well they were middle of the pack in sacks. So I guess there's that.

It's odd though because Vinny Curry seems like the guy that's going to lose out his spot, but both Bennett and Brandon Graham lined up almost exclusively on the left side last year, so someone's flipping sides.

So they're seemingly getting rid of the younger player and eating some dead money to do so.

I dunno. It's definitely a "win now" move, which you can hardly fault in a Super Bowl winning team that's likely not going to be able to hold this roster together much longer.

Here's the article I've been waiting years for someone to write: Will the Ravens draft a QB in the 1st round?

They should take one, but probably not anyone who is left by this point unless Lamar Jackson is available. Of course, they're more likely to take one later in the draft, as the article states, but I'd rather see them pay the premium and sit one of these top QBs for a year. That's exactly what most of the QBs in this class need, more or less. I'm not sure the offensive staff on the Ravens is strong enough to do a good job tailoring it to their QB's strengths, so the rookie would likely be lost for most of the season anyway.

I don't know. The Ravens desperately need a WR, but this is the wrong draft for that and the Ravens seem terrible at scouting WRs since forever.

Godspeed, Ed:

I think Baltimore drafting a QB early is more a 2019 thing. They can dump Flacco's deal in 2020, but probably not before then

In the meantime, sign Kaepernick.

Niners give Marquise Goodwin a 3-year extension. Honestly I didn't think much of the move when the team signed him last year, but now I think he's a guy in ascent, and a legitimate potential starting split end.

Titans cut DeMarco Murray. That signing never made sense to me in the first place, but after he was successful in year one, I guessed I had misread it. Year two looked more like what I expected. Titans obviously ready for Derrick Henry to take the lead, won't be shocked if they draft or sign a RB2 to carry a decent chunk of the workload though.

Apparently the Patriots made a better offer for Michael Bennett than the Eagles did, but it came too late, and Seattle wasn't willing to back out of the agreement they made with Philly.

I'm sure New England was confused by that.

Seahawks cut Richard Sherman

In addition to the Marcus Peters deal, the Rams trade for Aqib Talib, and sign Sam Shields.

Hmm. I wonder if something has happened in the NFC West recently that has Los Angeles on the warpath to acquire defensive backs?

Huh. Twitter tells me that WR Torrey Smith, formerly of the Eagles, is now a Panther.

Carolina sent CB Darryl Worley to Philadelphia. Worley is Carolina's No. 2 CB (behind James Bradberry) but Carolina wasn't really happy with him.

Enix wrote:

Huh. Twitter tells me that WR Torrey Smith, formerly of the Eagles, is now a Panther.

Carolina sent CB Darryl Worley to Philadelphia. Worley is Carolina's No. 2 CB (behind James Bradberry) but Carolina wasn't really happy with him.

Replacing an underwhelming CB with an unimpressive WR seems to be about the most Panthers thing ever.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Enix wrote:

Huh. Twitter tells me that WR Torrey Smith, formerly of the Eagles, is now a Panther.

Carolina sent CB Darryl Worley to Philadelphia. Worley is Carolina's No. 2 CB (behind James Bradberry) but Carolina wasn't really happy with him.

Replacing an underwhelming CB with an unimpressive WR seems to be about the most Panthers thing ever.

You don't go 8-8 every season by making big splashy trades!

Enix wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Enix wrote:

Huh. Twitter tells me that WR Torrey Smith, formerly of the Eagles, is now a Panther.

Carolina sent CB Darryl Worley to Philadelphia. Worley is Carolina's No. 2 CB (behind James Bradberry) but Carolina wasn't really happy with him.

Replacing an underwhelming CB with an unimpressive WR seems to be about the most Panthers thing ever.

You don't go 8-8 every season by making big splashy trades!

I feel bad there isn't an actively terrible offensive lineman involved in this process.

*Legion* wrote:

In addition to the Marcus Peters deal, the Rams trade for Aqib Talib, and sign Sam Shields.

Hmm. I wonder if something has happened in the NFC West recently that has Los Angeles on the warpath to acquire defensive backs?

Puhlease, they're bringing in players that fit with Wade Phillips, especially with Talib.

I can't wait for the 49ers to go 5-11 next year with Jimmy G throwing more picks than TDs. You'll be eating a lot of crow.

Spoiler:

And, no, I don't think that is gonna happen, especially with Seattle and Arizone in partial rebuild modes.

I wish Shields the best but he's played 1 game since 2016.

Wonder where Sherman will end up.

Baltimore would be a nice home for him since he won't cost against the comp count.

He'll probably end up in New England for the same reason.

*Legion* wrote:

Seahawks cut Richard Sherman

He'll go to the Rams, who will field 10 CBs and Aaron Donald.

garion333 wrote:

I can't wait for the 49ers to go 5-11 next year with Jimmy G throwing more picks than TDs. You'll be eating a lot of crow.

If you thought BORTLESMANIA was insufferable... just wait.

Panther Fan, who convinced himself that Daryl Worley was the second coming of Josh Norman, was seen today asking the gods how Richard Sherman might look in blue and black.

Hahaha, no, as long as Jerry Richardson owns the Panthers and as long as Charlotte stays in North Carolina.

I wouldn't mind Sherman one bit. He and Cam in the same locker room? Man oh man that would be fun.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I can't wait for the 49ers to go 5-11 next year with Jimmy G throwing more picks than TDs. You'll be eating a lot of crow.

If you thought BORTLESMANIA was insufferable... just wait.

BORTLESMANIA was hilarious, not insufferable.

Jimmy Gysteria could well be insufferable.