NFL 2017 Super Bowl Thread

"No, Mother, that's just the Northern Lights."

*Legion* wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

So trade Carson Wentz now?

That does beg the question what happens now with the Eagles qb controversy. Wentz will not be back from injury until midway through next season at the earliest, but when he is, he will expect his job back. Foles did just win the Superbowl. What do you do?

Play Foles until Wentz is healthy enough and practiced. Then play Wentz. Trade Foles at the deadline.

It's easy unless Foles just tears up the league in 2018. More likely he'll be OK but not a star that you can't bench. Super Bowl will be old news by October.

The Onion's got this:
https://sports.theonion.com/doug-ped...

Broad Street is insane right now. They can’t even get a wide enough shot to fit everyone in. Makes Trumps inaguaration look like a tea party.

NFL Network is interviewing Pederson and Foles, and said "we found out tonight that Nick Foles is a much better receiver than Tom Brady".

I'm happy for you Guru and the other Eagles fans. I'm happy for Foles too, after how much his career has been up and down.

Brady throwing for 500 yards, just wow at that number.

The commercials sucked this year. Halftime show was meh, ok but forgettable. The Prince tribute was a nice touch.

I don't think I can recall ever seeing Bellicheat this thoroughly outcoached. Apparently, I am not the only one who thinks so.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I'm happy for you Guru and the other Eagles fans. I'm happy for Foles too, after how much his career has been up and down.

Brady throwing for 500 yards, just wow at that number.

The commercials sucked this year. Halftime show was meh, ok but forgettable. The Prince tribute was a nice touch.

The Tide commercials worked for me.

Well, much congrats to Eagles fans; I still remember 2002 and how that one big win was like an absolution, and just wiped away everything. Just completely changes how you look at the game.

TheGameguru wrote:

Broad Street is insane right now. They can’t even get a wide enough shot to fit everyone in. Makes Trumps inaguaration look like a tea party.

‘Well That’s Nice,’ Say Calm, Pleased Eagles Fans After Super Bowl Victory

It will probably take me a while to parse what happened. I'm still not sure I believe it.

In my totally unbiased opinion, this may have been the single best Super Bowl game ever played (unless you like defense, anyway).

As I think they pointed out on the TV tonight, the last time the Eagles won an NFL Championship game, Vince Lombardi was the opposing coach.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Well, much congrats to Eagles fans; I still remember 2002 and how that one big win was like an absolution, and just wiped away everything. Just completely changes how you look at the game.

Same, counting 2013.

Glad there are some long-suffering fans getting to feel so good. Don't blow it Philly!

Really happy for the Eagles and their fans. I went in mostly rooting against the Pats. I didn’t follow the NFL really this year for various reasons. In the last week, though, I caught up on Jenkins, Long and other stories. So I was really glad the Eagles won by the time I got to the game. They also won me over after the Crisco nonsense last week. Enjoy the championship.

Also, fun to see Nick Foles get this. I always felt like Chip Kelly’s tenure did him no favors. Glad to see he at least got this moment.

*Legion* wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

So trade Carson Wentz now?

That does beg the question what happens now with the Eagles qb controversy. Wentz will not be back from injury until midway through next season at the earliest, but when he is, he will expect his job back. Foles did just win the Superbowl. What do you do?

Play Foles until Wentz is healthy enough and practiced. Then play Wentz. Trade Foles at the deadline.

It's easy unless Foles just tears up the league in 2018. More likely he'll be OK but not a star that you can't bench. Super Bowl will be old news by October.

I dunno. Given Foles was about to retire because he no longer loved the game, I see one of three things happening.

1) He retires now while he's ahead (don't think so)
2) He continues as back-up quarterback since he enjoys being on the team (most likely)
3) He gets traded to another team where the coach has no clue what to do with him and thus his reputation tanks again (why would anyone in the Eagles office do this)

Maybe there's some other business reasons they'd do differently but I think a lot of interviews with the different members of the team make it clear that #2 would be the most likely and most pleasant solution for all involved. I doubt Foles wants to leave the positive environment of the Eagles and given he was ready to give up on the NFL I don't think he's planning on being a starter quarterback now that he got a ring.

But I could be wrong! All I know is the desk-sized Eagles helmet I paid to get autographed by Nick Foles for my Dad as a Christmas present is worth a lot more now.

Finally, there is balance in the Force.

https://deadspin.com/america-please-...

The Saga of the Awning

@actioncookbook wrote:

Congratulations to Pittsburgh, the largest remaining city in Pennsylvania tomorrow

I gotta admit, that was a great Big XII Championship game.

*Legion* wrote:

Teams who beat the Jacksonville Jaguars in the AFC Championship game are 0-3 in the Super Bowl.

Tom Brady has more Super Bowl losses than Blake Bortles.

Tom Brady has more Super Bowl dropped passes than Blake Bortles.

Spoiler:

I'm sure at least one of those were posted to the Twitter account.

It was a lose-lose for me. I'm sad that Eagles fans can now lord it over some other teams now. I'm happy that long punished GWJers like GameGuru can be happy now. I guess we need to keep pinning our hopes on the Jags messing up for the next few years during their window to keep us happy.

Amazing game to watch.. I still can't believe it actually happened.. that when the defense had to make a play at the end they finally did. Foles will never pay for a meal or drink in Philly again for the rest of his life.

I kept thinking of all the times we didnt win.. Jaws choking against the Raiders.. Randall getting hurt in Week 1, Jerome Brown dying in a car crash, TO breaking his leg against Dallas and being 50% in the SB, all the NFC championship games Andy choked away.

If there is a heaven.. Jerome, Reggie, and Dirty Waters are smiling ear to ear. We finally brought it home for Jerome. I got to meet and spend a hour with Reggie and Jerome in 1991 as they were both members of the church where my next door neighbor was the Pastor.. It was the most amazing thing in my life as a 21 year old Eagles fan something I never forgot to this day.. I remember every word of the conversation. I kept thinking about it as the emotions sank in late last night.

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Ah man. I had so much fondness for that particular team. I always loved running QBs, so as a kid I thought that Eagles team was the best. So many classic players.

Before Brandin Cooks was lost due to injury, let's remember his failed hurdle.

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Chris Long donates entire salary to charity. (Base salary is $1 mil.)

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Admittedly nice of her.

garion333 wrote:

Before Brandin Cooks was lost due to injury, let's remember his failed hurdle.

What struck me was how unnecessary that was. He had 2 yards to make for the first down, it looked like he had the angle to the sideline to make it or possibly cutting back inside for the two yards. Just a dumb play.

Great, great game -- drama, controversy, trick plays, etc. Lots of fun to watch. Congrats to the Eagles. Well deserved.

I'm a big Cris Collinsworth* fan, but he and Al Michaels were really off their games last night. Lots of misstatements. Both seem, I dunno, tired and distracted. Very low energy.

Halftime show sucked. I never got the whole Justin Timberlake thing. Also, I'm old.

Commercials were mostly bad and rarely clever. A couple were downright offensive (using MLK to sell trucks) or terrifying (using a pull-people-out-of-the-security-line trick to sell cars). What they did to Nirvana's "All Apologies" was sacrilege. I will never buy whatever it was they were selling. (Babies? Xylophones?)

* Speaking of Collinsworth: He took a ton of crap for what people perceived as Patriots homer-ism, especially Brady c*ck-slobbering. But what do you expect? Brady has won five rings and four MVPs, and there was always a how-is-Brady-going-to-pull-this-thing-out vibe hanging over the fourth quarter. Brady threw for 500 yards and 3 TDs, ffs. It's not like Collinsworth was trying to pump up the 2016 version of Bort Blakles.

Also, I don't fault Collinsworth for mis-speculating on those two catch calls. I honestly thought that both calls would be overturned based on how stuff like that had been called all season. (The Steelers would like a word about the Zac Ertz TD.) But god bless Gene Steratore for using some damn common sense for a change.

Man needs to step back from the RPO, tho. Some of those RPOs were regular ol' play actions.

See y'all in the draft thread!

DSGamer wrote:

Ah man. I had so much fondness for that particular team. I always loved running QBs, so as a kid I thought that Eagles team was the best. So many classic players.

Yes sir, what a great team. I'll never forget the day we lost Jerome, it was a sad one indeed.

Reggie is one of my all-time favorite players across all sports. I even started rooting for the Packers a little bit because of him.

It was worth watching an Eagles game just to see the intensity of #20. He left us too soon.

That 95yd pass Cunnningham threw to Barnett after almost getting sacked in the end zone will be etched in my mind forever. One of many many great memories over the years. Like Clyde's 4.5 sacks the day the Eagles sacked Aikman 11 times during the 8 game win streak against Dallas.

Whenever we'd play backyard ball, I always dreamed I was Wilbert Montgomery or Harold Carmichael. I idolized those guys.

I'm smiling big today, and can't seem to stop.

-BEP

Enix wrote:

Also, I don't fault Collinsworth for mis-speculating on those two catch calls. I honestly thought that both calls would be overturned based on how stuff like that had been called all season. (The Steelers would like a word about the Zac Ertz TD.) But god bless Gene Steratore for using some damn common sense for a change.

I can't stand listening to Collinsworth, but I don't know why.

I'm with Chris on the first reviewed TD. It should have been called back, no matter how happy I am it wasn't. The second was a TD, as Ertz was clearly a runner with control at the point he started his leap and got hit by the defender. Different scenario from the Steelers game.

-BEP

TheGameguru wrote:

I cried.... 37 years of frustration finally over.

Congrats Guru. Savor the moment.

Not coming anywhere near the city on Thursday

Good plays but this will still be my favorite Eagles play:

cube wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

So trade Carson Wentz now?

That does beg the question what happens now with the Eagles qb controversy. Wentz will not be back from injury until midway through next season at the earliest, but when he is, he will expect his job back. Foles did just win the Superbowl. What do you do?

Play Foles until Wentz is healthy enough and practiced. Then play Wentz. Trade Foles at the deadline.

It's easy unless Foles just tears up the league in 2018. More likely he'll be OK but not a star that you can't bench. Super Bowl will be old news by October.

The Onion's got this:
https://sports.theonion.com/doug-ped...

I'll start adding him to the Jersey.

karmajay wrote:

Good plays but this will still be my favorite Eagles play:

I can't see the video, but I just know it's my favorite spots moment of all time. Ronde!

ccesarano wrote:

I dunno. Given Foles was about to retire because he no longer loved the game, I see one of three things happening.

1) He retires now while he's ahead (don't think so)
2) He continues as back-up quarterback since he enjoys being on the team (most likely)
3) He gets traded to another team where the coach has no clue what to do with him and thus his reputation tanks again (why would anyone in the Eagles office do this)

Maybe there's some other business reasons they'd do differently but I think a lot of interviews with the different members of the team make it clear that #2 would be the most likely and most pleasant solution for all involved. I doubt Foles wants to leave the positive environment of the Eagles and given he was ready to give up on the NFL I don't think he's planning on being a starter quarterback now that he got a ring.

But I could be wrong! All I know is the desk-sized Eagles helmet I paid to get autographed by Nick Foles for my Dad as a Christmas present is worth a lot more now.

I think you're reading way, way too much into some of Foles' media-speak.

Nick Foles is not going to choose to stay a backup in Philadelphia over starting opportunities. If he had starting opportunities before, he wouldn't be in Philadelphia right now.

Don't read so much into his "thought about retirement" stuff. He went from Los Angeles to Kansas City in 6 days. He wasn't thinking it all that hard. It's a good story that was overinflated by Super Bowl media week.

After yesterday, the most likely thing that will happen with Nick Foles is him being traded. What gets interesting are the questions of where, for what compensation, and if the deal will require a contract extension.

If Philly were just looking for the best deal, they would trade Foles somewhere regardless of if that team will extend him and/or pay him more in 2018. The $7.6 million Foles is scheduled to make next year would be nothing for a starting QB.

But we've lately seen teams turning down the best trade offer (read: Cleveland's trade offer) in order to "do right" by their quarterbacks. In Alex Smith's case, it was precisely a contract extension, which Cleveland wasn't offering to the same degree. I could see Philly doing the same for Foles, trading him only somewhere where the team agrees to an extension that pushes him up into starter money.

Foles has made $20 million in his entire career to date. With an extension that pushes him closer to starter money, he could easily come close to doubling that in 2018. (Mike Glennon took home $16m last year, and I could see Foles with a similar 3-year compete-for-the-job deal.)

With a lot of QBs going early in this year's draft, though, it remains to be seen how the market shakes out. Philly is only moving Foles if they get a trade offer that's worth taking. I think it will take a 2nd to pry him away from the Eagles.

Don't read so much into his "thought about retirement" stuff. He went from Los Angeles to Kansas City in 6 days. He wasn't thinking it all that hard. It's a good story that was overinflated by Super Bowl media week.

I think you mean "the two months since Carson Wentz got injured". That story has been told a lot here in Philly, way more than the two weeks between Vikings and Super Bowl.

You may be right, and quite frankly I'm very concerned that the whole team getting along stuff is just 1) because they're winning and it's easy to get along and be a wonderful team with wonderful people when you're winning, and 2) playing to the fans. I wouldn't put money either way, but if I had to bet it would be Foles sticking to Philly. Suppose we'll see, though. I'm new to this whole "tell a story as if it's wrestling" concept that the NFL apparently relies on.

1) because they're winning and it's easy to get along and be a wonderful team with wonderful people when you're winning,

This is true and will always be true. Winning solves a lot of issues in regards to team chemistry and locker rooms and always has.