Total War does China - Three Kingdoms Catch All

It’s been a decade since I played a total war game. Is this the one to get back into the franchise ?

jrralls wrote:

It’s been a decade since I played a total war game. Is this the one to get back into the franchise ?

Yes!

Godzilla Blitz wrote:
jrralls wrote:

It’s been a decade since I played a total war game. Is this the one to get back into the franchise ?

Yes!

Double yes!

Mind Elemental wrote:

Thanks for the perspective, TrashiDawa, and congrats, Balthezor! How did you find Sun Jian? I want to try his campaign once CA fleshes out the south with DLC - I find him the most impressive of the historical coalition lords (and he and his family have really cool portraits).

I love this game so much. Reviews have pointed out the 'big picture' stuff it gets right, such as the character-driven system; and it also does a lot to improve the basic Total War mechanics:
- Siege battles are finally as dynamic and interesting as field battles: the maps are large enough to give room for both sides to manoeuvre (I won a defensive battle by moving cavalry through side alleys to mop up enemy archers and charge enemy infantry from behind), and the attacker can use flaming arrows/trebs to reshape the battlefield;
- Moving away from recruitment buildings allows combined arms from turn 1, as opposed to entire unit classes like cavalry being gated off for ages;
- Each commandery is unique and there are strategic reasons to take one instead of another (thanks to the minor settlements system inherited from Thrones of Britannia);
- No more agent spam!

The Three Kingdoms have just formed in my game: myself, Wu (capital off-screen - all the way in the south), and surprisingly, Yan - I think this is Gongsun Zan's old faction. Despite being significantly more powerful than Yan, Liu Bei didn't declare himself king (I had expected Shu-Han to be the third kingdom).

Map below. Despite Wu's huge realm, I'm not actually that worried about them; the Wu armies are thinly stretched trying to cover all that land. The north is a bigger problem - Wu's vassal swarm means there are a lot of armies in a small area. After a disastrous northern expedition cost the life of Cao Pi (Cao Cao's son and IRL successor), I'm playing defensively for now until I can muster enough armies to set foot north again...

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I thought Sun Jian was one of the starting factions you could play? Not sure, since once I beat a campaign with Cao Cao, everyone was unlocked.

Balthezor wrote:

I thought Sun Jian was one of the starting factions you could play? Not sure, since once I beat a campaign with Cao Cao, everyone was unlocked.

Yeah, he's one of the starting factions. I was thinking how enjoyable / interesting is his campaign, how distinct did it feel from your Cao Cao campaign, etc.

Started a yellow turban run. Going well so far been able to expand my borders and keep the peace with most my neighbors. Enjoying it so far. Hoping to got the top right corner to myself before things get nasty.

Just had the game get stuck on a dialog that I couldn't exit.

I hope that I didn't lose too much progress. I don't have it in me to go back in and fire the game back up to see what I lost. I'm going to turn on per-turn-saves when I go back in.

PWAlessi wrote:

Just had the game get stuck on a dialog that I couldn't exit.

I hope that I didn't lose too much progress. I don't have it in me to go back in and fire the game back up to see what I lost. I'm going to turn on per-turn-saves when I go back in.

I think it auto saves every turn by default. Did wish it kept the last three saves or something sometimes.

Yellow turban campaign has been a breeze so far. Better positioning of my empire and good diplomacy made me very strong. Lu Bei was much harder for me.

jrralls wrote:

It’s been a decade since I played a total war game. Is this the one to get back into the franchise ?

Coming up on two decades here, but this sounds really tempting.

It's the best Total War not named Warhammer. Best diplomacy, leader dynamics and personality, it's visually stunning, and man it runs sooooo well. Turns only take about 30 seconds for the AI to complete.

The Warhammer TWs are different in a lot of ways, so it's hard to compare them directly with Three Kingdoms. But when you compare Three Kingdoms to the other historical ones, I haven't had this much fun with one since Rome. I think it's even better than Shogun 2.

I agree with Budo. This plus Total Warhammer 2 is the tops.

I prefer this over war-hammer 2 just for turn speed alone. With mortal empires on it takes forever. This is probable the best one since shogun 2 in my opinion.