Unless you're punishing Jamie Collins...
Dead weight, ya.
UpToIsomorphism wrote:Unless you're punishing Jamie Collins...
Dead weight, ya.
I've seriously seen dudes on Reddit, the ones that rave about Sashi Brown, going on about how Sashi got Belichick to trade "his best linebacker" to Cleveland.
If you wonder why I stick around here and ramble on about the NFL to the same 10 or so people, that's what I encounter when I venture out of this safe bubble.
The Bears hired Chiefs OC Matt Nagy as their new head coach.
Apparently the Colts were also "all in" on hiring Nagy, but Nagy actually wanted Trubisky and the Bears roster over Luck and his health concerns.
Well there you have it. A coaching candidate that didn't think the Bears job was the worst one.
You know it's bad for the Colts when the Bears roster gets ranked ahead of them.
Considering the combination of how incompetently Luck's injury has been handled and how Jim Irsay is still, you know, Jim Irsay, I'm not shocked by this.
Panthers chop off the top of their offensive coaching staff, firing OC Mike Shula and QB coach Ken Dorsey.
and how Jim Irsay is still, you know, Jim Irsay, I'm not shocked by this.
Still a million times better than his dad.
Panthers chop off the top of their offensive coaching staff, firing OC Mike Shula and QB coach Ken Dorsey.
That was surprising, to say the least, though Panther Fan had been screaming for his head right after Super Bowl L. There was no hint that either was in trouble. But it might have been a wink-and-a-nod part of Rivera's new deal. Or it might be Marty Hurney's way of saying It'll be different this time. Either way, and with DC Steve Wilks probably gone, the Panthers will look a lot different a year from now.
I think Shula is a decent enough OC. He schemed them into the playoffs in four of the past five years, after all. But I think he had gotten predictable (the NFC South seemed to have figured him out), and I'm not sure he really knew what to do with McCaffrey. Or, at the end of the day, Cam.
garion333 wrote:UpToIsomorphism wrote:Unless you're punishing Jamie Collins...
Dead weight, ya.
I've seriously seen dudes on Reddit, the ones that rave about Sashi Brown, going on about how Sashi got Belichick to trade "his best linebacker" to Cleveland.
If you wonder why I stick around here and ramble on about the NFL to the same 10 or so people, that's what I encounter when I venture out of this safe bubble.
Those poor fans have to be delusional because the reality is so damn sad.
Also, when Jamie Collins isn't taking plays off the above statement would be true. It's unfortunate most plays he's taking after Revis, on an island, all alone, while the play passes you by.
Also, the fans are close to truth they just don't know it! The Pats did trade away their best defensive player, and it was the right move by them since the got good return instead of next to no return.
Update on the Panthers: Word on the street is that Norv Turner is atop the Panthers' OC wish list. He (a) hired Rivera in San Diego back in the day, (b) has two family members on the Panthers' payroll already and (c) is available.
RIP Cam throwing the ball more than 5 yards ever again.
The NFL: where white coaches with all time losing records keep getting hired as coaches.
Update on the Panthers: Word on the street is that Norv Turner is atop the Panthers' OC wish list. He (a) hired Rivera in San Diego back in the day, (b) has two family members on the Panthers' payroll already and (c) is available.
Norv would be an... interesting fit.
On the plus side, his offense revolves around the TE a lot, and as long as Greg Olson is there, they have that piece.
Also, Norv's "F-back" pass catching back (Sproles had over 100 targets in each of Norv's last 2 years in San Diego) would clearly be filled by Christian McCaffrey.
The power running part, they obviously need to find an improvement on Jonathan Stewart.
The field stretcher, the Michael Irvin they throw downfield to on the few big shots they take? I don't see that guy on the roster yet.
Most importantly, though, it's a highly restrictive system, and one that has never been tailored to use the kind of skill set Cam brings to the table. Might he have some flex to his system to accommodate Cam? Maybe, but his tenure in Minnesota seemed to end abruptly precisely due to a lack of flex. And of course, the Vikings promoted Pat Shurmur to take control of that offense, and the result was taking the offense from 27th and 29th in the two full seasons Norv was there, and turning them to 11th this year.
Also, the fans are close to truth they just don't know it! The Pats did trade away their best defensive player, and it was the right move by them since the got good return instead of next to no return.
You're right on Chandler Jones. Goddamn he got to 17 sacks this year? I shouldn't be surprised, as that Cards' pass defense puts him as a pass rusher far more constantly than New England's schemes.
In fact, went and checked PFF, and Jones by FAR lead all 3-4 OLBs in pass rush attempts: 571. (Second was Khalil Mack with 509, and the numbers drop into the 440s before you even get out of the top 5).
So obviously volume played a big part in his statistical production, but PFF's numbers say he was productive on a per-rush basis too, ranking him 9th in "Pass Rush Productivity" among 3-4 OLBs (a weighted measure of sacks-hits-hurries per pass rush snap), and graded him 15th overall among all edge defenders. (Obviously he didn't grade much in pass coverage, having spent almost no snaps in it, but it helped that he was 10th among 3-4 OLBs in run stop %).
Green Bay is apparently going with that Cleveland-style front office, as the new post-Thompson structure is to have the coach, GM, and VP of football ops all reporting to ownership. ("Ownership" in the Packers case being team president/CEO Mark Murphy).
Speaking of Cleveland, Eliot Wolf is apparently getting the hell out of Green Bay, and is interviewing with the Browns for a position under John Dorsey, and apparently has an offer from the Raiders to join Reggie McKenzie's staff too.
When the Chiefs fired Scott Pioli, they went this this type of a system, too. Reid and the GM each report to Clark Hunt, rather than read reporting to he GM, who was Dorsey, but is now Brett Beach. I'm not positive that this is always the right way to go, but Hunt had been burned by Pioli, and wanted to provide the head coach a direct line to him and not have it considered going over the GM's head.
The only thing I would never allow, if I was running a team, is to let the head coach be the GM. I want a different guy coaching players. than I have negotiating their contracts. I want the GM to be able to tell a player the ugly stuff that needs to be aired during negotiations, while still allowing the head coach to side with the player.
I prefer separate coaches and GMs in general as well. There are some great big exceptions in NFL history, but most teams aren't the exception.
But I am just not a fan of this structure of coach and GM reporting to ownership. I *especially* do not like where the coach, GM, and VP of football ops all separately report to ownership, which is why I likened the Packers to the Browns structure (where Sashi, Hue, and Baseball Paul all had their own direct report to Haslam).
I don't mind a coach and GM reporting to the VP of football ops, who is the one reporting to ownership. But too many lines directly up to ownership is unstructured, too inviting of gamesmanship and struggle.
Yeah, I can see that being an issue. So far, Clark Hunt seems to be handling it pretty well. He has his dad's temperament, but also seems to be just enough more proactive that this works. In the future, he may not feel the same need have the coach reporting to him, but for now, I think Andy Reid is the kind of coach that will make a for a good learning experience.
For all his strengths and weaknesses, Reid is very drama free. By the time the Chiefs move on from him, I suspect Hunt will have learned a lot about what a coach needs and expects, to the point going forward that the same set-up is not needed. But coming from the madness oath e Pioli regime, I think he realized that he needed much more involvement so as to prevent the crap that went on, like Todd Haley believing his office was being bugged.
For all his strengths and weaknesses, Reid is very drama free.
Maybe. But then again, when John Dorsey was fired, a lot of people thought it came down to a split between him and Reid, and ownership siding with Reid. Which sounds similar to reports of Reid's exit from Philly, except with Joe Banner winning out there.
Not sure how much to believe of either, and Reid does seem tamer than the average HC, but who knows.
What I do find fascinating is the evolution of the NFL franchise power structure. VP of football ops seems to be a position coming into existence in more and more franchises, but what exactly that means seems different from place to place.
And invites ownership meddling.
And invites ownership meddling.
And by proxy invites homeless guy meddling, but maybe that is just Cleveland.
Panthers do in fact hire Norv Turner.
Packers and Seahawks both pursue Gus Bradley for their DC spots, but Gus Bus stays parked in Los Angeles.
Packers also were interested in Vic Fangio, but he appears to be staying put too.
So Packers instead sign Mike Pettine for the job.
Chiefs promote RB coach Eric Bienemy to the OC job.
Has there been any explanation for what the heck is happening at the Packers?
No, but it'll make for a great story!
Holy snap, I missed that AP awards were announced last week and ALL WORLD Calais Campbell got 1st and 2nd team honors as Edge Rusher (1st Team) and Interior Lineman (2nd Team).
Other than the AP needing to get that shit straightened out and not have a guy taking up two slots again, which is lame, that's awesome for Campbell. Apparently leaving Arizona for Jacksonville can increase awareness. Who knew?!? All press is good press is true, eh? Let's call this one The Bortles Effect. Where you became famous because your QB is infamous.
Panthers do in fact hire Norv Turner.
Not so fast! He's just interviewing.
Actually, there's nothing wrong with the accuracy of what you said ... if you post it again this afternoon or maybe tomorrow.
Panther Fan, meanwhile, is aghast because Norv is old and predictable. Of course, if Ron Rivera was kicking the tires on someone in their mid-30s, Panther Fan would be mad that they'd hire someone with no track record.
I hate the offseason.
*Legion* wrote:Panthers do in fact hire Norv Turner.
Not so fast! He's just interviewing.
Interesting, Yahoo reported it as a hire 16 hours ago, which is what I read.
Other than the AP needing to get that shit straightened out and not have a guy taking up two slots again, which is lame, that's awesome for Campbell. Apparently leaving Arizona for Jacksonville can increase awareness. Who knew?!? All press is good press is true, eh? Let's call this one The Bortles Effect. Where you became famous because your QB is infamous.
Or getting 14.5 sacks and shattering your previous career high, it could be that.
After all, the one guy ahead of him for sacks is in Arizona and he's on the AP team too.
Enix wrote:*Legion* wrote:Panthers do in fact hire Norv Turner.
Not so fast! He's just interviewing.
Interesting, Yahoo reported it as a hire 16 hours ago, which is what I read.
"A source confirmed to Sporting News on Tuesday that Turner will replace Mike Shula"
You got hit by the headline. Hell, it was a repost from Sporting News and the article over there no longer says that Norv will be hired, but instead simply interviewed.
My guess is he's a lock.
You got hit by the headline.
You expect me to read?
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