NFL 2017 Week 12 Thread

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

All I see in there is that Gabbert never got a fair shake.

Obviously. Did you see him beat the league's best defense Sunday? All he needed was a chance!

I don't understand, Arizona didn't play Baltimore.

Pfft, Baltimore defense. They give up more passing yards than their offense gains every single week!

Rat Boy wrote:

Eli got benched?

Yep. Ben McAdoo needs to go. At least start Webb over Geno Smith...

McAdoo is in desperation mode, trying to make something happen in order to save his job.

Eli isn't having his best year. He's not turning the ball over, as he has a career best low INT percentage. But he is at 9-year lows in terms of yards per game and yards per average, and he's taking the second-highest sack rate in his career.

Of course, that yardage per game and sack rate would be career bests for Geno Smith.

*Legion* wrote:

McAdoo is in desperation mode, trying to make something happen in order to save his job.

Eli isn't having his best year. He's not turning the ball over, as he has a career best low INT percentage. But he is at 9-year lows in terms of yards per game and yards per average, and he's taking the second-highest sack rate in his career.

Of course, that yardage per game and sack rate would be career bests for Geno Smith.

He saw what McDermott did a couple of weeks ago and said hold my beer.

Agreed, but Manning wasn't the problem. The O line is abysmal, the WR's corps are decimated and the defense lost it's way. If McAdoo was looking to the future, start Webb, not Smith.

*Legion* wrote:

McAdoo is in desperation mode, trying to make something happen in order to save his job.

Eli isn't having his best year. He's not turning the ball over, as he has a career best low INT percentage. But he is at 9-year lows in terms of yards per game and yards per average, and he's taking the second-highest sack rate in his career.

Of course, that yardage per game and sack rate would be career bests for Geno Smith.

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*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

All I see in there is that Gabbert never got a fair shake.

Obviously. Did you see him beat the league's best defense Sunday? All he needed was a chance!

I don't understand, Arizona didn't play Baltimore.

Pfft, Baltimore defense. They give up more passing yards than their offense gains every single week!

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Still #1.

Could it be the NFLs version of tank mode?

What do the Giants actually get out of winning games at this point and risking Manning getting crippled? Then again Eli is 37 this Jan anyways.

It's more preventing winning if anything.

Is there a rumor I am not hearing about Eli to Denver? Some Bronco fan in another forum is posting like Elis to Denver is basically a done deal. I mean, they can't do a trade now, right? Is it just really wishful thinking?

Jayhawker wrote:

Is there a rumor I am not hearing about Eli to Denver? Some Bronco fan in another forum is posting like Elis to Denver is basically a done deal. I mean, they can't do a trade now, right? Is it just really wishful thinking?

Absolutely wishful thinking; it's past the deadline. The Giants could conceivably cut Eli and he could go where he wants, but why would anyone sign him this late in the season? It's not like there's time to learn a playbook, so you'd be facing a potential Josh Freeman vs. the Giants on Monday Night kind of horror show. There's just not any time to get ready to actually play well with only a little bit of the season left.

Jayhawker wrote:

Is there a rumor I am not hearing about Eli to Denver? Some Bronco fan in another forum is posting like Elis to Denver is basically a done deal. I mean, they can't do a trade now, right? Is it just really wishful thinking?

Trade deadline is passed, so no trade can happen in 2017. He also can't be released, as the Giants can't absorb the cap hit they would take against the 2017 books - they'd have to slash a bunch of players to make cap room to slash Eli.

He can be released in the offseason.

Bronco fan

See that's the problem right there.

An interesting sidebar to the Eli benching story: Assuming Geno Smith doesn't fall in a hole, is struck by a meteor, whatever, between now and Sunday, the Giants will be the final NFL team to start a black QB.

Here's the first for each NFL team.

Enix wrote:

An interesting sidebar to the Eli benching story: Assuming Geno Smith doesn't fall in a hole, is struck by a teammate

FTFY.

Enix wrote:

An interesting sidebar to the Eli benching story: Assuming Geno Smith doesn't fall in a hole, is struck by a meteor, whatever, between now and Sunday, the Giants will be the final NFL team to start a black QB.

Here's the first for each NFL team.

I love how Warren Moon was the guy for four franchises. I didn't even remember him actually starting a game for Kansas City!

I felt bad for the 49ers one, and then I saw the Colts.

Hell, I was probably watching Moon play for KC and could not figure out which black QB ever started for the Chiefs. I do remember one spectacularly awful day when Moon threw for over 500 yards against the Chiefs in KC.

0:40 - geez could Moon throw the ball. He barely steps into the throw and it takes off like a goddamn rocket.

Look at the pass at 1:07. Remember when that used to be a catch. No way that gets called a completion today.

Jayhawker wrote:

Look at the pass at 1:07. Remember when that used to be a catch. No way that gets called a completion today.

Yep, and for two completely different reasons.

The "force-out" rule was eliminated in 2008. Since he didn't get his second foot down before being hit and forced out of the field of play, under the force-out rule, it's up to the ref to determine if he would have been able to get his foot inbounds if not for the defender's push.

Then, of course, there's the fact that he lets go of the ball after making contact with the ground.