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First time in his life that his collars and cuffs will match.
Match his skin, that is!
Thanks, I'll be here all week, tip your wait staff.
Counterpoints:
a.) He's a pathological liar
b.) He's a panicky coward who freaks out and assumes the worst when he faces even the slightest impediment
Three posts before someone busted out that tedious, defeatist, unproductive old chestnut. I'd had my money on five.
Given Trump has faced zero consequences for anything his whole life it’s not surprising that most of us are defeatists.
It's not just him saying it. It's his lawyers and the NYC prosecutors saying they met to discuss the terms of surrender for the indictment coming next week.
Y'all doubters are going to be pleasantly surprised.
It's not just him saying it. It's his lawyers and the NYC prosecutors saying they met to discuss the terms of surrender for the indictment coming next week.m.
It’s not that part anyone is disputing, people are acting like “this is it” for Trump whereas the reality of the situation is that he’ll probably spend maybe a couple days to a couple months in some minimum security hotel that’s nicer than any house any of us have ever lived in while the hearing and trials take place, then his money and fame will succeed just like it always has and he’ll be out “having beat the evil cabal” and all of us will be worse off for it.
This is not even the first of many trials. His company could end not being allowed (or trusted) to do business in NY and elsewhere. He could be barred from public office. And these trials have already may "law and order" arguments against him possible.
It's more than a start.
So he’ll have a lot of time to eat big macs in his hotel and be escorted to golf trips between hearings before returning to Mar-a-lago in time to win the republican primary next year, got it.
It's not just him saying it. It's his lawyers and the NYC prosecutors saying they met to discuss the terms of surrender for the indictment coming next week.
Y'all doubters are going to be pleasantly surprised.
I want a perp walk and a mug shot. That might be asking too much.
I want a justice system where people who commit crimes are treated equally no matter how rich or poor they are.
Expect a wild Tuesday and stay safe
Trump says he expects to be arrested, calls for protest
Looks like there is now a surprise witness on Monday, so the process is unlikely to be finished and documented by Tuesday. And the grand jury meets MWF afternoons for 3 hours each day. So, most likely later in the week.
Actually that would be funny if there were protests and nothing had happened yet.
Literally any delays or minor changes will be spun into conspiracy fodder
Looks like there is now a surprise witness on Monday, so the process is unlikely to be finished and documented by Tuesday. And the grand jury meets MWF afternoons for 3 hours each day. So, most likely later in the week.
Actually that would be funny if there were protests and nothing had happened yet.
Literally any delays or minor changes will be spun into conspiracy fodder
Big brain play. Leak to Trump that he's being arrested on Tuesday, let him incite a riot, give it a couple days to burn itself out, arrest him when his drunken idiot mob is hung over.
Robear wrote:Looks like there is now a surprise witness on Monday, so the process is unlikely to be finished and documented by Tuesday. And the grand jury meets MWF afternoons for 3 hours each day. So, most likely later in the week.
Nevin73 wrote:Actually that would be funny if there were protests and nothing had happened yet.
NathanialG wrote:Literally any delays or minor changes will be spun into conspiracy fodder
Big brain play. Leak to Trump that he's being arrested on Tuesday, let him incite a riot, give it a couple days to burn itself out, arrest him when his drunken idiot mob is hung over.
And use it as more evidence.
Former Maryland governor Larry Hogan’s (R) chief of staff is the subject of a federal manhunt after failing to show for his corruption trial.
This is several months old, but I just read it:
If you read Brandon Fleury a story when he was three, he’d recite it back to you word for word. His father Patrick, then a professional tennis coach, was both bemused and impressed by his physically awkward son. He would tell people about Brandon’s capacity for mimicry – eventually he found himself explaining it to a jury.
Brandon had a tough childhood. One night when he was five and lying in bed with his mother, she had a pulmonary embolism and died. Fleury became a full-time single dad to Brandon and his younger brother. Brandon had always needed extra attention, but after his wife died Fleury began to pick up on more unusual elements of his son’s behaviour. A girl from the neighbourhood would pull him around in a wagon “like he was a puppy”; Brandon seemed uneasy with it yet unable to articulate his discomfort. At their home in Santa Ana, California, he would repeat phrases and questions over and over again, or open and shut doors repeatedly. Sometimes he would flush the toilet 30 times in a row, giggling.
Doctors diagnosed Brandon with attention-deficit disorder, then attention-deficit-hyperactivity disorder. When he was seven, they added obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome to the list (Asperger’s is now classed as a form of autism).
Fleury tried to help Brandon regulate his behaviour but nothing the doctors suggested – therapy, medication, a teaching assistant – seemed to make a difference. He taught his son at home for a while, then sent him to high school, which turned out to be a disaster. Desperate to be accepted, Brandon became the plaything of a group of bullies he believed were his friends. They took his money and beat him up. “They would mess with him in every imaginable way; they’d make a fool of him,” Fleury says. “He didn’t know any better.” Brandon dropped out before his final year.
After that, the family seemed to find a rhythm. Brandon came across as several years younger than he was and would often lose himself in repetitive rituals, such as washing his hands. But he was self-reliant enough to walk to town and back, and cook himself meals in a microwave. At night, Fleury set the burglar alarm with a motion detector so that he’d know if his son started to wander off; Brandon seemed to like staying in his bedroom and didn’t mind being monitored.
Brandon spent most of his days sitting on the couch at home, listening to music and surfing the internet. Fleury didn’t really know what his son was doing online but Brandon seemed to enjoy the escape from socialising in person and his father was happy for him to have that. Brandon never said thank you or hello, never told anyone that he loved them, but he appeared content. “Non-stop smiles,” Fleury recalls.
One morning in 2019, when Brandon was 21, Fleury woke up to flashing lights outside and loud banging on the front door. He ran to open it: fbi agents were on the other side. They immediately put him in handcuffs. Brandon wouldn’t come out of his room, so the fbi set off an explosive device and eventually extracted him. “Please don’t hurt him!” Fleury remembers shouting as they led him away. “He doesn’t understand.”
Paywalled
Trump deleted a Truth Social post attacking Ron DeSantis for partying with students when he was a teacher, which temporarily made everyone think "wow did he think he want too far?"
then he reposted it but added in that the girls were underage. he even threw in a photo this time.
So here's the thing about this, for me. R's love to act like big strong, tough men, the "Hard Men" you need, not the "soft men" like those libs.
And, like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz before him, DeSantis will allow himself to get cucked in public by Trump, because they are all ultimately too cowed by this beast they've created to do anything about it.
Like, remember the debate, when Trump basically called Ted's wife an ugly dog? And Ted did nothing about it?
I have absolutely zero positive feelings towards Cruz, I think he's lower than filth, but if he'd stopped in the middle of that debate, walked over and punched Trump in the face, I couldn't have done anything but support him.
Trump tried to have a mob kill Pence and he's barely said anything negative about Trump.
Trump tried to have a mob kill Pence and he's barely said anything negative about Trump.
I still don't get it. It's plain as day that after Jan 6, Pence will never hold office again. Trump turned the GOP against him. Why does he keep falling in line?
NathanialG wrote:Trump tried to have a mob kill Pence and he's barely said anything negative about Trump.
I still don't get it. It's plain as day that after Jan 6, Pence will never hold office again. Trump turned the GOP against him. Why does he keep falling in line?
His life is based on belief without evidence.
NathanialG wrote:Trump tried to have a mob kill Pence and he's barely said anything negative about Trump.
I still don't get it. It's plain as day that after Jan 6, Pence will never hold office again. Trump turned the GOP against him. Why does he keep falling in line?
He either thinks he'll out last Trump, is a true believer or doesn't want to accept that his life's work is over and he's been cast out.
Or all of the above
His life is based on belief without evidence.
His life is based on fear. Fear of transgressions. Fear of weakness, and of appearing weak. Fear of change. Fear of loss. Fear of loss of respect. Fear of loss of power. Fear of demons, of Hell, of God.
Modern evangelical thought is based on the idea that the world is fallen, sin and corruption are all around us, and we are walking a single thread above a pit of eternal suffering. No one can be trusted. There is no truth but God, and there are many, many false paths that look like they lead to truth but take you away from God. There is nothing Good for people like Pence, just the desperate hope that his prayers will be heard and he will be, undeservedly in his mind, selected as one of the Saved, miracle of miracles.
But only if he lives in the fear of God's wrath and remembers that everyone else in the world is trying to destroy his chance at heaven.
I think the fact that he let slip that he thought that Trump would be judged harshly by history in the end at the closed Gridiron Club dinner, a meeting of journalists where phones, cameras, and recording devices are banned shows precisely what a moral coward he is. He may profess to love God, but he fears man.
There is nothing Good for people like Pence, just the desperate hope that his prayers will be heard and he will be, undeservedly in his mind, selected as one of the Saved, miracle of miracles.
To be fair, almost everyone else thinks he's undeserving, too.
Trump’s Lawyers Seem Pretty Panicked He’s Going to be Indicted in Georgia Too
It’s not hard to see why Team Trump is going to the ends of the earth to destroy the report generated by the special grand jury. While only a small excerpt was released in February, the jury made clear in its findings that (1) despite Trump’s claims, there absolutely was not “widespread fraud” in Georgia’s 2020 presidential election; and (2) that one or more people appear to have lied to the jury, which is, yes, a crime. As for its recommendations re: which individuals should be charged, jury forewoman Emily Kohrs told The New York Times last month it was “not a short list,” adding of whether or not Trump was on it: “You’re not going to be shocked. It’s not rocket science.” Speaking to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, another juror said of the group’s report: “A lot’s gonna come out sooner or late. And it’s gonna be massive. It’s gonna be massive.”Trump’s legal team also claimed in its Monday filing that Kohrs had divulged the jury’s “deliberations” in her series of interviews, though Judge McBurney did not appear to see it that way. Legal experts told the Times they doubt her comments would have an impact on the case, noting that the special grand jury does not actually issue indictments, a job that would be left to a regular grand jury.
NathanialG wrote:Trump tried to have a mob kill Pence and he's barely said anything negative about Trump.
I still don't get it. It's plain as day that after Jan 6, Pence will never hold office again. Trump turned the GOP against him. Why does he keep falling in line?
Ever watch The Sopranos?
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