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Paleocon wrote:

I keep hearing about the "worker shortage". Would be a shame if Blue States took all your low wage workers. Real shame.

I was recently at a gender reveal party for one of my nieces and got talking to my very conservative ex-BIL. He was loudly complaining about how people didn't want to work anymore because the Dems were just giving away money.

I tried to tell him that MAGA immigration policy drove out millions of workers and prevented more from even getting into America. And that was made even worse by COVID, which also saw millions of older Americans decide "f*ck it, I'm retiring."

So it wasn't that people didn't want to work anymore. It was that our economy lost like five million plus workers, most of them low wage, which is why he had to wait longer at his favorite sh*tty chain restaurant.

He still blames the $1,200 stimulus check from two years ago.

Then why doesn't he get himself some of that sweet, sweet cash and stop working?

Truly amazing to see them turn "Migrants moved in-state to better area to receive food, shelter and services" into "LIBS DEPORT MIGRANTS WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES"

The entire project appears to be attempting to prove everyone is just as inhumane and cruel as them. Along with the never-ending firehose of dishonesty.

By this logic, if your friend stops by because something terrible happened to him, and you put them up in a hotel rather than letting them stay in your house, you've deported them.

Prederick wrote:

The entire project appears to be attempting to prove everyone is just as inhumane and cruel as them. Along with the never-ending firehose of dishonesty.

They filled out paperwork for the asylum seekers and wrote down random addresses of homeless shelters, some of them being all the way across the country in Washington state.

The issue with that is the asylum seekers are expected to show up at the closest ICE office to that address to prove that they're complying with the immigration process. Apparently some of them have to show up as early as Monday. If they fail to show they are deemed in in violation and will be immediately deported.

Oh, and they also purposefully gave the immigrants contact information at the wrong federal agency to change their addresses.

And yet if I call them monsters, I'm the one in the wrong for othering them. This is cartoonish deliberate evil.

Mixolyde wrote:

And yet if I call them monsters, I'm the one in the wrong for othering them.

Meanwhile, the GOP candidate for AZ governor is calling her opponent "pure evil."

But, y'know, Biden said fascist.

Prederick wrote:

But, y'know, Biden said fascist.

Well duh, he gave a speech at night in front of a red, white, and blue lighting setup that people could easily make spookily-cropped screenshots of, if that’s not fascist I just don’t know what is.

Robear wrote:

Right. The concern here is not for the migrants; it's political theater. If Blue states actually step up and organize a response that yields housing, jobs and a path to contributing citizenship, not only will they benefit from the influx, but the migrants may well *want* to be sent away from the crazies who abused them at the border.

At that point, the programs will likely peter out and stop, because the object is to produce theatrical pain and expose some sort of imaginary hypocrisy through leaning on perceived weak points. I personally think it will actually end up creating more robust immigrant resettlement programs, but then, I'm an optimist on many things.

That's actually why Maine has a growing population of refugees from Africa & the Carribean. Portland made itself particularly welcoming and helpful towards refugees several years ago, and it's kind of suffering from its own success now. Because that is where all the organizations providing aid and the established communities of past refugees already are, word keeps spreading to new groups of asylum seekers from countries in those areas, sk more keep asking to be sent to Portland specifically instead of other places in the state and it's overwhelming what the city itself provide. The state needs to start organizing and coordinating the services so that it can spread the refugees out and lessen the strain on the cities in the southern part of the state, but the northern part is much more Trump country and would rather discourage them from coming at all, all the while complaining that they can't find anyone "willing to work".

Prederick wrote:

The entire project appears to be attempting to prove everyone is just as inhumane and cruel as them. Along with the never-ending firehose of dishonesty.

It's pretty much entirely this. They cannot comprehend that someone would actually want to help others out of the goodness of their hearts, and are trying to create a situation to prove that everyone is as selfish as they are. It's the same reason they cannot understand why someone would choose to "be good" without the threat of eternal punishment.

The story of the praying Bremerton coach keeps getting more surreal

The Seattle Times wrote:

When the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June that Bremerton assistant football coach Joseph Kennedy had the right to pray on the field, it wasn’t widely understood then that the court had also ordered the school district to give him his job back.

The day of the ruling, Fox News host Sean Hannity expressed doubts the district would follow through. But one of Kennedy’s lawyers clarified that they had no choice: “We’re ready to have that fight. If they want to defy the Supreme Court, I think they’re gonna realize they made a serious mistake.”

Kennedy was sunnier about it all.

“As soon as the school district says ‘Hey, come back,’ I am there, first flight,” he said.

So the school district has been flummoxed about what’s happened since. They complied by offering to reinstate him, they say, and now the football season is in full swing. But Kennedy is nowhere near the sidelines.

“He’s had the paperwork for his reinstatement since August 8th, and we haven’t gotten so much as a phone call,” says Karen Bevers, spokesperson for Bremerton schools.

Instead, as the Bremerton Knights were prepping for the season in August, Kennedy was up in Alaska, meeting with former Vice President Mike Pence and evangelist Franklin Graham. On the eve of the first game, which the Knights won, Kennedy was in Milwaukee being presented with an engraved .22-caliber rifle at an American Legion convention.

The weekend of the second game, which the Knights also won, Kennedy appeared with former President Donald Trump at the Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey. He saw Trump get a religious award from a group called the American Cornerstone Institute.

Coming up this month, Kennedy’s scheduled to give a talk as part of a lectureship series at a Christian university in Arkansas.

“Place a PR/Publicity Request,” invites his personal website, where he’s known as Coach Joe.

It’s an increasingly surreal situation for the Bremerton schools. They were ordered to “reinstate Coach Kennedy to a football coaching position,” according to court documents. But the now-famous coach is out on the conservative celebrity circuit, continuing to tell a story about “the prayer that got me fired” — even though Bremerton never actually fired him.

In 2015, he was put on paid leave near the end of the season after holding a series of prayer sessions on the field with students and state legislators. He still got paid for his full assistant coach contract, about $5,000. High school assistants often work on yearly deals, and Kennedy, at odds with the head coach and aggrieved by what had happened, never reapplied to work the 2016 season.

“He was not terminated,” Bevers said. The head coach at the time had moved on, as did most of the coaching staff.

This did not stop Kennedy’s lawyers from telling the Supreme Court repeatedly that he was fired.

“The record is clear that Coach Kennedy was fired for that midfield prayer,” lawyer Paul Clement told the nine justices in the first 15 seconds of the oral arguments of the case in April. The words “fired,” “fire” or “firing” were used 16 times in the hour and a half session.

It wasn’t true though. The district’s lawyers tried to correct the record, to no avail.

“You can’t sue them for failing to rehire you if you didn’t apply,” one lawyer, Mercer Island’s Michael Tierney, argued during a lower court session. “The District didn’t get an application from him, had four positions to fill and filled them with people who had applied. It didn’t fail to rehire him.”

The Supreme Court simply ignored this inconvenient fact — along with a host of others. At one point during oral arguments, as a different school district attorney was saying the narrative that had been spun didn’t fit with the facts — that the coach’s prayers were neither silent nor solitary, nor was he fired — Justice Samuel Alito interrupted him, saying “I know that you want to make this very complicated.”

Alito persisted in asking about the coach being fired — six times he said it, to the point that the lawyer finally corrected him. Which is a touchy thing to do with a Supreme Court justice.

“It’s not a question of firing, and in fact, he was put on paid leave,” the lawyer pleaded, fruitlessly, to Alito.

In the end, it all was too complicated. The effect of the court’s order is that Bremerton has to reinstate someone who didn’t apply for the job then and doesn’t appear eager for it now. It’s as if the justices wanted to script an ending for a Christian redemption movie. But real life isn’t cooperating.

It's always a grift for these f*cks.

I saw the part about him not being fired when it happened. Court is compromised and illegitimate.

But of course he's in on the grift now

A court that cannot be bothered by easily established facts or concrete evidence is no legitimate court.

Adnan Syed, Freed

Sarah: A lot of what the state is saying in this motion probably feels like déjà vu for the defense side. Many of the arguments are the same — unreliable witness statements, unreliable cellphone evidence. A timeline of the crime that doesn’t hold up. But there are a couple of new things, too.

The main is the revelation that the state didn’t hand over information about a possible alternate suspect in the crime. That was a bit of a bombshell.

David: Who is this alternate suspect?

Sarah: There are two of them actually. The state isn’t naming these people right now, but detectives definitely knew who they were at the time. The state is saying these suspects (either one or both) have criminal histories that are relevant to the crime. And that one of them has a family connection to the location where Hae Min Lee’s car was found.

But the most damning thing is that a couple of people had told the prosecutor’s office at the time that one of the suspects had a motive to kill Hae, and even had threatened to do so. And that information was never told to the defense. That alone — not handing over important evidence — could be grounds to overturn a murder conviction.

Trump's hand picked special master calls Trump's bluff.

Rolling Stone has one heck of an article detailing multiple accounts of sexual harassment at Tesla: "How Many Women Were Abused to Make That Tesla?"

Why dudes still worship Musk is beyond me. He's an absolute failure of a human being.

OG_slinger wrote:

Rolling Stone has one heck of an article detailing multiple accounts of sexual harassment at Tesla: "How Many Women Were Abused to Make That Tesla?"

Why dudes still worship Musk is beyond me. He's an absolute failure of a human being.

You don't think there's a subset of dudes who worship him because he sexually harasses women and gets away with it?

Now who's being naive?

hbi2k wrote:

You don't think there's a subset of dudes who worship him because he sexually harasses women and gets away with it?

Now who's being naive?

They're probably the same group that's totes cool with the rampant racism that's also endemic within Tesla.

Again, all failures of human beings.

Mediocre men of a feather flock together.

A group of incels should be called a Musk.

It fits.

Far less important than I expected

New York attorney general files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump, some of his children and his business

The dude is sued every 20 minutes. He is the king of sleezy deals that skirt the law. That isn't a big deal really. Oh well Al Capone was brought down because of tax evasion so maybe it will matter.

The man never did understand, or accept, processes that apply to everyone else. But this is the third major time he's tried to screw the intel agencies (he did it in small ways all the time). He's already burnt dozens of Humint sources, including one right in Putin's inner circle, back in 2019/2020, and he's passed program-level info including sources and methods from our work and the Israelis to Russia as well as the public. This time may well cost us *hundreds* of billions of dollars. Years of the entire Black World budget. And that's ignoring the actual effect, that we lose our tech advantage in dozens of areas.

And for what?

Honestly, that's what he should be worried about. As long as the government investigations are going on, he's relatively safe. If he gets out of those, or they are stopped, well... Anyone remember William Colby?

Wow. The appeals court unanimous opinion reads like a stinging rebuke of Judge Aileen Cannon. Basically goes 29 pages of how she is unfit.

Robear wrote:

The man never did understand, or accept, processes that apply to everyone else. But this is the third major time he's tried to screw the intel agencies (he did it in small ways all the time). He's already burnt dozens of Humint sources, including one right in Putin's inner circle, back in 2019/2020, and he's passed program-level info including sources and methods from our work and the Israelis to Russia as well as the public. This time may well cost us *hundreds* of billions of dollars. Years of the entire Black World budget. And that's ignoring the actual effect, that we lose our tech advantage in dozens of areas.

And for what?

Honestly, that's what he should be worried about. As long as the government investigations are going on, he's relatively safe. If he gets out of those, or they are stopped, well... Anyone remember William Colby?

Everyone start sending Trump brochures on the joys of solo canoeing on the Potomac.

Paleocon wrote:

Wow. The appeals court unanimous opinion reads like a stinging rebuke of Judge Aileen Cannon. Basically goes 29 pages of how she is unfit.

That was satisfying. With these latest rulings, my take is that the Special Master has become virtually irrelevant, and the DoJ can proceed unhindered.

Can't attack the ruling, attack the person.

You think Cannon's ruling was correct, Iso? That the government can't say what is classified simply based on the official markings that indicate it's classified? And that Trump could have a personal interest in government property such that it's okay for him to take it out of classified storage and keep it in areas accessible to non-cleared personnel, in a facility with 10 or so known penetrations by foreign security services?

Forgive me if I read your comment wrong...