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NSMike wrote:

I’m a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax

Can’t even imagine dealing with this.

Holy f*cking sh*t.

Every time I think I've reached as low an estimation as I can of people in this nation, I never fail to be surprised to find something that manages to bury the bar even further underground.

If I were that guy, I would completely cut ties with my bio-dad and bar them from ever having a presence or place in my life again.

I may have said this already, but again, we can't "educate" our way out of the disinformation apocalypse. I'm not saying it won't help, but the reason why a lot of stuff like this sticks isn't ignorance or lack of media literacy, it's that the person wants to believe in the conspiracy.

If they want in, there's nothing you're going to do to convince them otherwise. The goalposts will keep shifting into eternity.

Again, I know getting angry about it is pointless because they're angling for any reaction whatsoever, but seeing the usual pasty-faced suspects fixing their faces to slander Simone Biles is the kind of thing that makes me want to believe in God, because then there's a hell.

I wake up every morning to the peaceful, fulfilling idea of Limbaugh, Falwell, Babbitt, and others being tortured beyond recognition by the embodiment of justice. It helps.

Main post: the last time I logged into World of Warcraft was 2009, and I really haven’t followed the California lawsuit against activision blizzard that’s alleging WoW’s dev team is a bunch of white bro culture alcoholics who harass and target women, especially women of color. Now there is a walkout planned in support of marginalized employees at Activision Blizzard. Is there more to this story than what I can glean from kotaku articles?

Seth wrote:

Is there more to this story than what I can glean from kotaku articles?

Activision Blizzard was sued by the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing after a two-year investigation that revealed "a “frat boy” culture in which female employees are subjected to constant sexual harassment, unequal pay, and retaliation."

Bloomberg Law wrote:

According to the complaint, filed Tuesday in the Los Angeles Superior Court, female employees make up around 20% of the Activision workforce, and are subjected to a “pervasive frat boy workplace culture,” including “cube crawls,” in which male employees “drink copious amounts of alcohol as they crawl their way through various cubicles in the office and often engage in inappropriate behavior toward female employees.”

The agency alleges male employees play video games during the workday while delegating responsibilities to female employees, engage in sexual banter, and joke openly about rape, among other things.

Female employees allege being held back from promotions because of the possibility they might become pregnant, being criticized for leaving to pick their children up from daycare, and being kicked out of lactation rooms so male colleagues could use the room for meetings, the complaint says.

Female employees working for the World of Warcraft team noted that male employees and supervisors would hit on them, make derogatory comments about rape, and otherwise engage in demeaning behavior, the agency alleges.

The suit also points to a female Activision employee who took her own life while on a company trip with her male supervisor. The employee had been subjected to intense sexual harassment prior to her death, including having nude photos passed around at a company holiday party, the complaint says.

Activision Blizzard's first response was to put out a statement that said the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing depictions of what happened were "distorted" and "false" and not a fair representation of the company because the management team totes confronted this issue head on and fixed everything (ya just gotta trust them). Employee didn't react too well to the gaslighting thus the walkout (and calls for people to not play Activision Blizzard games).

Thanks OG. It sounds like Activision Blizzard is fulfilling every game company's stereotype of viciously protecting their frat bro employees, but didn't have critical mass of frat bro employees to stave off a revolt.

f*ck 'em.

Prederick wrote:

Again, I know getting angry about it is pointless because they're angling for any reaction whatsoever, but seeing the usual pasty-faced suspects fixing their faces to slander Simone Biles is the kind of thing that makes me want to believe in God, because then there's a hell.

It was pretty disgusting how they all kicked into gear at once. It’s almost as if they see their purpose as enforcing multiple social hierarchies.

It really is kind of amazing, because it's all the people you'd be expecting to do it, immediately doing their takes.

I also have to give a shoutout to the IDW member who genuinely went out in public with a "Millennial self-care narcissism will cause a nuclear holocaust" take.

Also, in unrelated entertainment news, I think a lot of "I have a right to speak my mind" dudes think that therefore means no one else gets to speak their mind by informing them they're an absolute dipsh*t.

WOW! And I don't mean World of Warcraft.
Posing with a portrait of Cosby with mockingly suggestive looks. I mean... case closed for everyone in that picture and everyone involve in taking it or arranging it.

Rat Boy wrote:

Inside The Cosby Suite From The Activision Blizzard Lawsuit. Content warning, obviously.

Oh man...they're trying to sell it as "We called it the Cosby suite because the floors looked like his sweaters." Are they dumb enough to think we're dumb enough to believe that, or is it just almost-plausible deniability?

It’s almost plausible deniability. It might even have a sliver of truth to it; I’ve been in hotel rooms with ugly sweater carpets and I can believe someone made that joke. It’s hard to believe that now think they can convince anyone that they didn’t think about the other connotations, especially with all photos and conversations that appear to be referring to those connotations.

In one image procured by Kotaku, a group of women are sitting on a bed in the room with the Cosby portrait. One of the women appears to have a hand on another’s breast, which is cheered on by the men in the comments. According to the images procured by Kotaku, and two sources with knowledge of Afrasiabi’s alleged predatory behavior, Cosby’s reputation was apparently the point of why the group of men gathered around his picture in the photos

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My only quibble with this assertion is the timeline. Most of the photos Kotaku is pointing at are from 2013. Cosby didn't become the specific known quality he is until Hannibal Burress' routine sparked things, which was in October 2014.

And even though it was an "open secret" in comedy circles, I am personally doubtful a bunch of gaming CEOs were familiar enough with the ins and outs of the insular world of stand-up comedy to have made the equivalence.

Except that look at the context of the chat.
Its all about bringing up attractive women. And then there is the "f*ck" misspelled as "marry" joke to go along with it. Not to mention the evidence that there is a photo of one female employee grabbing another's breasts with the lewd comments that go along with that.

For what it's worth, it was in the TV world as well, Prederick, back into the 80's.

Oh, I should make it clear, I'm not arguing that they're innocent or anything, the entire thing is quite obviously damning, but I've seen a lot of people making the "Cosby = Assault" analogy, and I don't know if it lines up. That said...

Robear wrote:

For what it's worth, it was in the TV world as well, Prederick, back into the 80's.

Given that they were in California, it is possible. I'm still just a little skeptical on that one, but it is entirely possible that they did know, and did it for that specific reason.

Prederick wrote:

Oh, I should make it clear, I'm not arguing that they're innocent or anything, the entire thing is quite obviously damning, but I've seen a lot of people making the "Cosby = Assault" analogy, and I don't know if it lines up. That said...

Robear wrote:

For what it's worth, it was in the TV world as well, Prederick, back into the 80's.

Given that they were in California, it is possible. I'm still just a little skeptical on that one, but it is entirely possible that they did know, and did it for that specific reason.

Honestly Prederick, I was going to point out the exact same timeline issues as you did but I didn’t want to deal with the backlash. This “Cosby” thing does smack of an unfortunate coincidence. But now it’s out there so… ::shrug::

Well, it's just one part. They could've called it the "Paw Patrol Suite" and it's still damning as hell.

I don't know. I look at all of their faces and I don't see "look at that ugly sweater".
Not to mention, they never changed the name of the room after Cosby's trouble became mainstream.

Cosby had jokes about his drugging women in his old standup routine and I had heard it come up on podcasts, comedy roasts, etc prior to Buress, I just don’t think it was something that was talked about in the “mainstream” prior to Buress due to Cosby’s popularity and influence. It’s not like it wasn’t widely known though.

We used to talk about Cosby around 2005-2008 about his sexual assaults. it was very much a Michael Jackson situation. Lots of people talked about it but it just hadn’t stuck enough to bring him down.

ruhk wrote:

Cosby had jokes about his drugging women in his old standup routine

There was an episode of the Cosby Show where he used roofies BBQ sauce to drug his quarrelling family at a picnic.

Around 1984, I first heard that Cosby was to be avoided by young women in comments from some young women at my college who had done work with him or in some cases knew someone who had. And this was in a small (but very artsy and lots of NYC folks) New England college. If you were female and anywhere in that industry at that time, you’d likely heard that he was someone not to be alone with.

Prederick wrote:

My only quibble with this assertion is the timeline. Most of the photos Kotaku is pointing at are from 2013. Cosby didn't become the specific known quality he is until Hannibal Burress' routine sparked things, which was in October 2014.

And even though it was an "open secret" in comedy circles, I am personally doubtful a bunch of gaming CEOs were familiar enough with the ins and outs of the insular world of stand-up comedy to have made the equivalence.

The sanctions lawsuit that got national coverage thanks to Hannibal Burress was in the 80s and stemmed from a very public lawsuit against Cosby at the time that was settled (in order to avoid having the sanctions trial out in public, for reasons that became more obvious in 2014) Hannibal buress didn't make it up or break some story with his act, he was relating stuff that was widely known in the 80s and early 90s

Mother F###ers

(CNN)Nearly 230 Republican members of Congress told the Supreme Court on Thursday that it should overturn Roe v. Wade and release its "vise grip on abortion politics."

Vise grip on abortion politics? What crack are they smoking.

In Thursday's brief, they asked the court to "affirm the constitutional authority of the federal and state governments to safeguard the lives and health of their citizens, born and not yet born."
CNN wrote:

(CNN) Nearly 230 Republican members of Congress told the Supreme Court on Thursday that it should overturn Roe v. Wade so that men could retain their "vice grip on women's bodies and lives" that highly questionable--and very recent--interpretations of their rapidly shrinking religious sect's scripture demanded.

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In Thursday's brief, they asked the court to "affirm the constitutional authority of the federal state governments to safeguard the lives and health of some of their citizens, born and not yet born."

A Republican spokesperson clarified their statement saying "We said "some" because protecting the lives and health of the unborn means we have to completely discount the lives, safety, and rights of women, who we view as merely incubators for the precious fetuses. Of course we Republicans will continue to ruthlessly f*ck over those fetuses as soon as they're born, especially if they have the misfortune of not being born rich and White.

If RvW is overturned I do wonder how it would reshape the politics if the single issue abortion voters are suddenly freed to think for themselves. Don't get me wrong, I don't want RvW overturned but it begs the question if the GOP might be shooting itself in the foot.