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This should be a random loath, but might be too hot for there so I'll post it here. There's a right to repair ballot question for Massachusetts this year (again), the PAC created by the auto industry has gone all in on the scare tactic method of campaigning. It ticks me off every time I see it air.

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JLS wrote:
Shadout wrote:

Delay the election and make Pelosi temporary president? Well, okay. I guess theoretically a situation could get bad enough for that to make sense, even if a bad idea. If Trump is suddenly concerned with the safety of having the election, surely he would be fine with this...

Delay and let Trump stay? Haha.

It would actually be the president pro tem of the Senate as the entire House, and 1/3 of the Senate, will be out of office Jan. 3.

The good news is that the remaining 2/3 of the Senate would be majority Democratic, and they can select their own pres. pro tem. That means if there isn't an election we could actually see President Sanders.

Who takes control?

Right. That’s when Trump is going to follow the rules.

What if the delay comes because Russia drops a nuke on NY? It doesn’t have to be dramatic. But I’ve already spent too much time assuming rules and norms would hold.

He violates norms, not to do what he does when he violates it. It sets up the bigger power grab. We’ve seen that play out over and over.

We have to be at close to 50% chance of civil war now.

When we look back at this point, I think we're going to say that:
33.1. We were already in full-blown fascism in July.
33.2. The odds of collapse and revolution happening in the future were over 50% by the end of July.
33.2a. (Understanding of odds will be skewed once thing actually happen/don't happen: Trump genuinely had a 30% chance of winning but still won; natural 20s do happen. The popular view of the odds will be wildly off base from whatever the actual odds were.)
33.3. If we have a civil war it'll look nothing like the previous Civil War with clearly divided states and will instead look really weird from an American perspective, because there aren't any clean geographic divisions. Other countries that have had more recent civil breakdowns will think it feels familiar, though.
33.3a. I don't think we'll have a civil war per se, but do anticipate violent attempts to suppress insurrection. (Said insurrection may or may not exist. You think they're going to need an actual antifa to justify murdering people?)
33.3b. Most of the career military will try to avoid getting involved for as long as possible.
33.3c. If the military does get involved, the Constitution is basically done for and we're going to have to completely rework the thing.

Gremlin wrote:

When we look back at this point, I think we're going to say that:
33.1. We were already in full-blown fascism in July.
33.2. The odds of collapse and revolution happening in the future were over 50% by the end of July.
33.2a. (Understanding of odds will be skewed once thing actually happen/don't happen: Trump genuinely had a 30% chance of winning but still won; natural 20s do happen. The popular view of the odds will be wildly off base from whatever the actual odds were.)
33.3. If we have a civil war it'll look nothing like the previous Civil War with clearly divided states and will instead look really weird from an American perspective, because there aren't any clean geographic divisions. Other countries that have had more recent civil breakdowns will think it feels familiar, though.
33.3a. I don't think we'll have a civil war per se, but do anticipate violent attempts to suppress insurrection. (Said insurrection may or may not exist. You think they're going to need an actual antifa to justify murdering people?)
33.3b. Most of the career military will try to avoid getting involved for as long as possible.
33.3c. If the military does get involved, the Constitution is basically done for and we're going to have to completely rework the thing.

While I don't think we're there yet (I hope and pray), history is written by the victors. What dystopian future are we going to end up in if conservatives "win?"

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Obama Makes Sweeping Call To Action On Voting Rights In John Lewis Eulogy

“If you want to honor John, let’s honor him by revitalizing the law that he was willing to die for,” Obama said, calling out the hypocrisy of politicians who posted tributes to Lewis while dedicating their careers to enacting voting restrictions and trying to dismantle and gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

“And, by the way, naming it the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, that is a fine tribute. But John wouldn’t want us to stop there, just trying to get back to where we already were. Once we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, we should keep marching to make it even better.”

Obama’s eulogy was an implicit rebuke of President Donald Trump as well as Chief Justice John Roberts, who wrote the Supreme Court opinion that gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013 and whose defining achievement on the bench has been the erosion of voting rights.

It was only fitting for the first Black president to take center stage at Thursday’s memorial service for Lewis. The civil rights titan died of cancer on July 17.

“I’ve come here today because I, like so many Americans, owe a great debt to John Lewis and his forceful vision of freedom,” Obama began.

The former president traced the entire arc of Lewis’ long and storied career, which began when Lewis was on the front lines of the civil rights movement as a college student.

“Sometimes we act as if this was inevitable. Imagine two people, Malia’s age, younger than my oldest daughter, on their own, to challenge an entire infrastructure of oppression,” Obama said. “John was only 20 years old, but he pushed all 20 of those years to the center of the table, betting everything, all of it, that his example could challenge centuries of convention and generations of brutal violence and countless daily indignities suffered by African Americans.”

He went on to describe Lewis’ long congressional career and his work until the very end of his life.

“As an old man, he didn’t sit out any fight,” Obama said. “He knew that the march is not over, that the race is not yet won.”

The Department of Homeland Security has compiled “intelligence reports” about the work of American journalists covering protests in Portland, Ore., in what current and former officials called an alarming use of a government system meant to share information about suspected terrorists and violent actors.

A memo by the department’s top intelligence official, which was tweeted by the editor of Lawfare, says personnel relied on “FINTEL,” an acronym for financial intelligence, as well as finished intelligence “Baseball cards” of arrested protesters to try to understand their motivations and plans. Historically, military and intelligence officials have used such cards for biographical dossiers of suspected terrorists, including those targeted in lethal drone strikes.

The logical end point of "antifa are terrorists" and "antifa are whoever we say are antifa".

They're spiking the census, by the way:

NPR: Census Door Knocking Cut A Month Short Amid Pressure To Finish Count

The Census Bureau is cutting short critical door-knocking efforts for the 2020 census amid growing concerns among Democrats in Congress that the White House is pressuring the bureau to wrap up counting soon for political gain, NPR has learned.

Attempts by the bureau's workers to conduct in-person interviews for the census will end on Sept. 30 — not Oct. 31, the end date it indicated back in April would be necessary in order to count every person living in the U.S. given major setbacks from the coronavirus pandemic. Three Census Bureau employees, who were informed of the plans during separate internal meetings Thursday, confirmed the new end date with NPR. All of the employees spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of losing their jobs.

"It's going to be impossible to complete the count in time," says one of the bureau employees, an area manager who oversees local census offices. "I'm very fearful we're going to have a massive undercount."

I’m sure he’ll just reappear under a different name but I’ll take it.

David Duke permanently banned from Twitter

New York (CNN Business)Twitter permanently banned the account of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke on Thursday night, after multiple violations of the company's hateful conduct policy.
JC wrote:

I’m sure he’ll just reappear under a different name but I’ll take it.

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Interesting...

New York (CNN Business)James Murdoch, the youngest son of billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch, made a dramatic break from the family business on Friday.

He resigned from the board of directors of News Corp, the family's publishing empire, and said he was exiting the company over "disagreements over certain editorial content published" by its news outlets and "certain other strategic decisions."

Cripes man! It only practically takes the end of the world for some to grow a conscience?

Maybe the disagreement is that they weren’t lying enough/the most optimal way. Is there any reason to assume the best?

From the article, it sounds like maybe he got tired of killing people for money.

Shadout wrote:

Maybe the disagreement is that they weren’t lying enough/the most optimal way. Is there any reason to assume the best?

I would like to think so. Anyone from the Murdoch family growing a conscience is a positive development. According to the NPR article on the subject, he and wife have given generously to Joe Biden's campaign and environmental causes. If a person leaves his powerful family dynasty to help do good in the world, we should be happy for him (and the world).

I’m torn... on one hand, preventing media access is another in the long list of garbage coming out of the administration. On the other hand, less media coverage of the Republican circus has always been something that might be better. I don’t think this is going to play well...

(CNN)The dramatically scaled-down Republican National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, will be closed to the press, a convention spokesperson and Republican official familiar with the plans tell CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/01/polit...

They either don't want the public to see the yelling and backstabbing if the convention goes south or they don't want them to see the incantations and blood rituals if the convention goes according to plan.

ruhk wrote:

The Department of Homeland Security has compiled “intelligence reports” about the work of American journalists covering protests in Portland, Ore., in what current and former officials called an alarming use of a government system meant to share information about suspected terrorists and violent actors.

A memo by the department’s top intelligence official, which was tweeted by the editor of Lawfare, says personnel relied on “FINTEL,” an acronym for financial intelligence, as well as finished intelligence “Baseball cards” of arrested protesters to try to understand their motivations and plans. Historically, military and intelligence officials have used such cards for biographical dossiers of suspected terrorists, including those targeted in lethal drone strikes.

Cuccinelli relaxed oversight of DHS intel office

Politico wrote:

Before the Department of Homeland Security’s intelligence arm put together intelligence reports about journalists, its leaders advocated for less internal oversight of the office.

Several months ago, the leadership of the Office of Intelligence and Analysis asked DHS’s second-in-command, Ken Cuccinelli, to limit a department watchdog from regularly reviewing the intelligence products it produces and distributes.

Cuccinelli signed off on the move, according to two sources familiar with the situation, which constrained the role of the department’s Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties in approving the intelligence office’s work.

Before the policy change, I&A had to get the civil liberties watchdog’s signoff to distribute its intelligence products to law enforcement partners. If CRCL didn’t sign off on a product, one of the sources said, the head of I&A could appeal to the deputy secretary — the office where Cuccinelli now sits. The policy change gave I&A more latitude to quickly share products with partners. But former DHS officials say it may have contributed to the intelligence shop’s recent missteps.

Party that claims regulations get in the way violates citizens' rights as soon as regulations are lightened. Film at 11.

“Recent missteps”. Uh-huh. I mean, I sounds better than “recent abuses that they’ve been blatantly caught doing”.

Weird how this Administration's missteps seem to always be wearing jack boots.

Oops! Wrong thread. I don't think that's a political one. Forgot there was another thread.

WTF

Aurora police apologize after drawing guns on Black family, mistaking vehicle as stolen

The article is horrific enough. What the f*ck were these officers thinking drawing their weapons on a bunch of kids *who were mother f*cking cooperating!??***

And what the f*ck is USAToday pushing? It is 8 paragraphs into the story before they mention that the "vehicle" that was reported stolen was a f*cking motorcycle. This family was driving an SUV!

They are doing everything in their power to spin this abuse of power as just some "small mix up" really nothing big to get worried about.

*sorry for many bleeps but this is just outrageous, it is insane that we live in such a police state and kind of ignore it most of the time

farley3k wrote:

WTF

Aurora police apologize after drawing guns on Black family, mistaking vehicle as stolen

The article is horrific enough. What the f*ck were these officers thinking drawing their weapons on a bunch of kids *who were mother f*cking cooperating!??***

And what the f*ck is USAToday pushing? It is 8 paragraphs into the story before they mention that the "vehicle" that was reported stolen was a f*cking motorcycle. This family was driving an SUV!

They are doing everything in their power to spin this abuse of power as just some "small mix up" really nothing big to get worried about.

*sorry for many bleeps but this is just outrageous, it is insane that we live in such a police state and kind of ignore it most of the time

I think that's going to be the standard "I'm a racist coward" defense that has proven so effective in the past.

Didn't USAToday get bought within the last few years by some conservative organization?

Probably but at least they have it. It didn't make the cut for CNNs homepage.

Stating the obvious here but no way this ever happens to a white family and kids driving around. This isn’t a mistake or error, it’s racism at its most blatant. What’s the threat of that cuffed little girl? Seriously!

Same license plate number from another state, sure, that’s a mistake. Mixing up a motorcycle and SUV is stretching it but I can see the possibility. But putting a 7 year old face down on the ground? Inexcusable. You want to fix it, don’t jut “examine training practices,” don’t just hand wave some “diversity training,” how about you suspend some cops for abuse?

I had to read this twice when I saw it was Iowa and a republican governor.

Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds signed an executive order Wednesday restoring voting rights to tens of thousands of Iowans with felony convictions ahead of the November election.
Estimates put the number of Iowans disenfranchised because of a felony conviction between 50,000 and 60,000.
Reynolds isn't the first Iowa governor to restore voting rights with an executive order.

In 2005, Democratic Gov. Tom Vilsack restored voting rights to felons, but in 2011, Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, while Reynolds was his lieutenant governor, reversed the order, requiring Iowans who completed their sentence after that date to appeal directly to the governor to be able to vote.

I think they ran out of excuses. Iowa was the only state in the union that didn't restore their rights automatically. hell when Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kansas do it you can't really find much an argument against it.

farley3k wrote:

I think they ran out of excuses. Iowa was the only state in the union that didn't restore their rights automatically. hell when Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kansas do it you can't really find much an argument against it.

Not quite. There are still two states that require individual petition and eight states that only automatically restore them in some circumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony...

And let's not forget, Florida voted to restore voting rights but republicans have blocked it because "The will of the people" only counts when it's in their favor.