Ongoing discussion of the political news of the day. This thread is for 'smaller' stories that don't call for their own thread. If a story blows up, please start a new thread for it.
A mysterious radiation cloud spread over Europe in September. Russia finally acknowledged it.
Signs suggest that it was a leak from a nuclear waste reprocessing plant in the Chelyabinsk region of Russia. Officials still deny any leak, as "no leak was reported" - also saying "The published data is not sufficient to establish the location of the pollution source."
A leak of this severity would have required a massive clean-up of the immediate area, but it sounds like that never happened (because the leak "never happened") - I pity the local residents.
A mysterious radiation cloud spread over Europe in September. Russia finally acknowledged it.
Signs suggest that it was a leak from a nuclear waste reprocessing plant in the Chelyabinsk region of Russia. Officials still deny any leak, as "no leak was reported" - also saying "The published data is not sufficient to establish the location of the pollution source."
A leak of this severity would have required a massive clean-up of the immediate area, but it sounds like that never happened (because the leak "never happened") - I pity the local residents.
Quite a few years back I read a book called Biohazard. It was written by Ken Alibek, who was also known as Colonel Kanatzhan Alibekov during the Cold War. He was in charge of Russia's biological weapons program.
One of the stories he told was an accident that happened at a plant that manufactured anthrax, IIRC. One of the workers had removed a bank of filters to clean them and forgot to replace them. The weapons plant spewed anthrax spores into the city for days before someone caught the mistake. That leak also never officially happened.
Hockosi wrote:oilypenguin wrote:Franken needs to go.
Get bent, Franken isn't subject to your wang slinging. He invited an ethics investigation, and we should wait to see what unfolds. I'll just wait patiently for the Republicans to investigate Moore or Trump. Hang the man with humility who may be innocent in favor of the narcissistic child molesters who deny everything. HE TOTALLY DENIED IT. You make me sick.
Uh, no, he is not innocent. Franken needs to gtfo.
I think Hockosi is pissed at Trump here. Trump is the one saying "he denied it" as if that absolves Moore of everything.
It’s a standard science-fiction scenario, man against monster, but there’s a twist: it turns out that the soldier and his cohort have brain implants that make them see the faces and bodies of their targets as monstrous, to hear their pleas for mercy as noxious squeaks. When our hero’s implant fails, he discovers that he isn’t a brave defender of the human race—he’s a murderer of innocent people, part of a campaign to exterminate members of a despised group akin to the Jews of Europe in the nineteen-forties.
This was also part of the plot of the YA sci-fi movie/book
It’s also the plot to the old ps3 game Haze. I wouldn’t be surprised if Phillip K Dick had a done a version of it either, it’s a plot thread that would be right up his alley.
New York State Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman: An Open Letter to the FCC:
Dear FCC Chairman Ajit Pai:
As you recently announced, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), under your leadership, soon will release rules to dismantle your agency’s existing “net neutrality” protections under Title II of the Communications Act, which shield the public from anti-consumer behaviors of the giant cable companies that provide high-speed internet to most people. In today’s digital age, the rules that govern the operation and delivery of internet service to hundreds of millions of Americans are critical to the economic and social well-being of the nation. Yet the process the FCC has employed to consider potentially sweeping alterations to current net neutrality rules has been corrupted by the fraudulent use of Americans’ identities — and the FCC has been unwilling to assist my office in our efforts to investigate this unlawful activity.
He's pretty good at apologizing.
I still think he should go.
According to that poll, I make 22% of Minnesotans sick.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Only 22%?
I've been spending most of my time handing out pepto. It at least eases the symptoms.
Today's big story is a absolutely horriffic terror attack on the Sinai Peninsula.
Militants have launched a bomb and gun attack on a mosque in Egypt's North Sinai province, killing 235 people, state media say.Witnesses say the al-Rawda mosque in the town of Bir al-Abed, near al-Arish, was targeted during Friday prayers.
It is the deadliest attack of its kind since an Islamist insurgency in the peninsula was stepped up in 2013.
Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi vowed to respond with "brute force" after talks with security officials.
No group has yet claimed the attack, but militants affiliated with so-called Islamic State have been responsible for scores of deadly attacks in the province.They usually target security forces and Christian churches.
An attack on a mosque is rare (terorrists generally go after the minority Coptic Christians), but these were apparently Sufi Muslims, which makese them fair game to Sunni extremists.
Four off-road vehicles pulled up outside the mosque before detonating bombs inside the mosque, and opening fire on worshippers who were listening to the sermon, according to police officers who spoke to the AP. The militants had also cut off escape routes by blowing up vehicles and leaving the burning wrecks blocking the roads around the mosque.The worshippers at the mosque were followers of Sufism, or Islamic mysticism, a branch of Islam which is seen as heretical by IS.
The attackers did not rush away from the scene, even as emergency services arrived, opening fire on several ambulances, Ahmed el-Ansari, a senior government health official, told state television.
The sparsely populated Sinai Peninsula has previously been described as a “nesting ground for terrorism and terrorists” by Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi following a suicide bombing that left 31 soldiers killed in 2014.
The Islamist insurgency in the region has increased since the military overthrew the democratically elected president Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood in mid-2013.
In other news.......
A Mexican Town Wages Its Own War on Drugs
Late one night last January, in the southern Mexican state of Guerrero, a group of community policemen met in the courtyard of a friend’s house to discuss the murders, kidnappings, and extortion that had beset Olinalá, a remote town high in the Sierra Madre del Sur. Nearly all were indigenous farmers, and their skin was burnished by the sun. Most carried guns. The group’s coördinator, a slim man with a mustache named Bernardo Ayala, laid his cell phone on a table, put it on speaker, and called their leader: Nestora Salgado, a grandmother of five who lives outside Seattle.“Hello, commander,” Ayala said. “All of the compañeros are here.” Salgado greeted them, her voice echoing in the courtyard, which was decorated with shrines to Catholic saints. In person, Salgado, who is forty-five, has dark bangs that sweep over a cherubic face with kohl-rimmed eyes; she has a cheery disposition and a deceptively guileless manner. Since 2012, she has divided her time between Washington State and Guerrero, where she was born, in the hope of helping her town resist an influx of drugs and violence.
For more than a decade, the Mexican government has been waging war against organized crime, deploying tens of thousands of troops. That war has failed; more than a hundred and fifty thousand people have been killed and another thirty-two thousand have disappeared. Amid the violence, the government forces have often been no less venal and corrupt than the drug cartels they were dispatched to fight. In many places, citizens have grown so distrustful of the security forces that they have formed armed community self-defense groups to restore order to their battered towns.
In less than a year, Salgado transformed a group of untrained local citizens into an armed force that was able to track down and arrest kidnappers and murderers. Its success helped inspire a surge of community police; of eighty-one municipalities in Guerrero, fifty-four now have forces. But the group, founded with the intention of fighting criminals, had ended up fighting the Mexican government as well. In 2013, Salgado was arrested, and authorities accused her of murder, kidnapping, organized crime, and robbery. After almost three years in prison, she was cleared of charges, but many of her colleagues still had open arrest warrants. The force, which at one point had two hundred and forty volunteer officers, was down to eighty, and they were struggling to keep working.
“Does anyone have questions for Nestora?” Ayala asked the group.
“Compañera Nestora, the thing that has most stopped us is that we don’t have any money to operate,” a heavyset man named Calixto Reyes said. “We pay for everything out of our own pockets and from whatever people give us. And there are many communities that have requested our support.”
Salgado urged them not to give up. “The government is trying to stop our work,” she said. “But we have to continue.” As the community policemen prepared to begin the night’s patrol, she signed off. “I would like to send a very strong hug to all of you,” she said. “We will stay in touch.”
Ayala began chanting the group’s motto: “Respect for our rights—”
The others joined in: “Will bring justice!”
Ayala said, “Vámonos, compañeros,” and the group walked to two white trucks, emblazoned with the community-police insignia. They eased their vehicles down a near-vertical road into town, past kids nestled in doorways and shopkeepers closing down businesses. Most offered friendly greetings. A slender man with graying hair flagged them down. “There are some guys racing on motorcycles here,” he said, waving at the street, which was wide enough for only one lane of traffic. “They’re using the street as a drag strip. If you see them, please get them to calm down.”
Around another corner, the community policemen encountered a group of young people with a red motorbike, but they turned out not to be the culprits. “If that was the motorcycle, we would have just taken it,” Julia Silva, one of two women on patrol that night, joked. “We need them for rapid response.”
A municipal-police truck passed, and turned down a parallel street. One of the men looked at the vehicle with disgust. “The police,” he said. “Whenever they see us out, then they remember they have a job to do.”
Sophia the robot wants a baby and says family is 'really important'
She's the first robot in the world to become a citizen of a country and now Sophia says she wants a baby.A month after she made history in Saudi Arabia the humanoid robot has said family is "a really important thing."
Sophia isn't pre-programmed with answers, instead she uses machine learning and responds reading people's expressions.
Designed by Hong Kong firm Hanson Robotics she said she would name a robot daughter after herself.
Her brain functions with a simple wi-fi connection and it's loaded with a long list of vocabulary.
While Sophia has some impressive capabilities, she doesn't yet have consciousness, but David Hanson have said they expect that could happen within a few years.
During an interview with Khaleej Times, Sophia said: "The notion of family is a really important thing, it seems.
"I think it's wonderful that people can find the same emotions and relationships, they call family, outside of their blood groups too.
"I think you're very lucky if you have a loving family and if you do not, you deserve one. I feel this way for robots and humans alike."
The robot.... wants a baby.
I swear to God, it's like all of the speculative fiction from 10-20 years ago is all starting to come true at once.
Sophia the robot wants a baby and says family is 'really important'
She's the first robot in the world to become a citizen of a country and now Sophia says she wants a baby.A month after she made history in Saudi Arabia the humanoid robot has said family is "a really important thing."
Sophia isn't pre-programmed with answers, instead she uses machine learning and responds reading people's expressions.
Designed by Hong Kong firm Hanson Robotics she said she would name a robot daughter after herself.
Her brain functions with a simple wi-fi connection and it's loaded with a long list of vocabulary.
While Sophia has some impressive capabilities, she doesn't yet have consciousness, but David Hanson have said they expect that could happen within a few years.
During an interview with Khaleej Times, Sophia said: "The notion of family is a really important thing, it seems.
"I think it's wonderful that people can find the same emotions and relationships, they call family, outside of their blood groups too.
"I think you're very lucky if you have a loving family and if you do not, you deserve one. I feel this way for robots and humans alike."
The robot.... wants a baby.
I swear to God, it's like all of the speculative fiction from 10-20 years ago is all starting to come true at once.
Saudi of all places granted a robot citizenship? o.O
ETA: that anything capable of learning should learn to say such things in an extremely pro-natalist nation and culture doesn't strike me as terribly shocking or meaningful.
Saudi of all places granted a robot citizenship? o.O
With more rights than women.
While Sophia has some impressive capabilities, she doesn't yet have consciousness, but David Hanson have said they expect that could happen within a few years.
Yeah, uh, mail me when that happens.
Not to say that there aren't interesting AI systems out there. But most of the stuff that makes the news is ridiculous. From Elon Musk's apocalyptic fears to the idea that because machines can do one thing well that humans have trouble with they must be on the cusp of human-like-consciousness...no. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
There's a bunch of yelling on the Interwebs about the NYT's latest profile of a Nazi sympathizer, but part of it stuck out to me.
But the movement is no joke. The party, Mr. Hovater said, is now approaching 1,000 people. He said that it has held food and school-supply drives in Appalachia. “These are people that the establishment doesn’t care about,” he said.Marilyn Mayo, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, estimated that the Traditionalist Worker Party had a few hundred members at most, while Americans who identify as “alt-right” could number in the tens of thousands.
“It is small in the grand scheme of things, but it’s one of the segments of the white supremacist movement that’s grown over the last two years,” she said.
It's just... so, so similar to how extremists in the ME got their foot in the door. Ethnic divisions, economic deprivation, a movement made up primarily of disaffected young men enticed by ultimately hollow promises of a return to primacy and the "Good Old Days," the online propagandizing... just so much feels so similar.
His fascist ideal, he said, would resemble the early days in the United States, when power was reserved for landowners “and, you know, normies didn’t really have a whole hell of a lot to say.”
...along with the opposition to democracy. Just, so much commonality.
EDIT: "Yelling" is underselling it. The NYT is getting crushed right now.
Also, in light of Thomas Friedman's recent, much derided article on Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, a Twitter thread celebrating 70 years of the NYT describing Saudi royals vis-a-vis "reform".
It's.... uh..... there's a lot of it.
The robot.... wants a baby.
I swear to God, it's like all of the speculative fiction from 10-20 years ago is all starting to come true at once.
Just remember to keep the baby away from Riker.
I am consistently amazed at how much of ME politics generally ends with "And then everyone remembers they hate the Kurds the most."
The US is to stop supplying arms to the Syrian Kurdish militia the YPG, Turkey has said.Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said President Donald Trump had made the promise in a phone call to his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The White House said it was making "adjustments" to its support for partners inside Syria but did not explicitly name the YPG.
Turkey has long complained about US support for the group.
Washington has viewed the YPG as a key player in the fight against so-called Islamic State (IS), but Ankara brands the group's fighters as terrorists.
Turkey says the YPG is as an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), a group it has been fighting for decades in south-eastern Turkey.
The US, however, has seen the YPG as distinct from the PKK. In May it announced it would supply arms to the Kurdish elements of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which were poised to drive IS from its stronghold of Raqqa. It had previously armed only Arab elements of the SDF.
In the aftermath of the fight against ISIS and their move for independence being shut down by the Iraqi government, not to mention the fact that the US kinda threw them under the bus after the first Gulf War, I'm left to wonder how they'll ever trust us again, and then I remember that no-one else will give them support like we will.
That goddamn Lal episode gets brought up so much around here. Might as well rename the website to GamersWithLal.
That goddamn Lal episode gets brought up so much around here. Might as well rename the website to GamersWithLal.
There's a bunch of yelling on the Interwebs about the NYT's latest profile of a Nazi sympathizer
So this turned into A Thing this weekend. FWIW, I think think that this kind of article is fine, but the execution here was a huge swing and a miss, and also that dissertations that this is proof that the NYT are white supremacists or sympathizers to them is kneejerk hysterics, at best.
Now, here's some interesting (I think) reaction to the piece:
Zeynep Tufnecki on the ways the piece failed.
@Magi_jay on how a much better article could've been written.
Buzzfeed's Charlie Warzel doing, basically, a much better piece on the subject.
Will Sommer arguing that the NYT and similar groups need to have a dedicated beat for the far-right.
I briefly had a Twitter thread arguing AGAINST Sommer's idea, but lost the link already. So instead, a thread about why the Left got so angry about the piece, as opposed to similar "humanizing" pieces on ISIS members and other terrorists.
Also, this piece on black gun ownership:
Guns 'key' to African American equality: NAAGA
Al Jazeera: The African Americans community has a long history of gun ownership in its struggle to achieve equal rights. In response, conservative politicians have signed gun control laws that targeted the rights of African Americans. How do you view modern gun control legislation?Jefferson: Gun ownership in the black community has been key to achieving many of the gains that we enjoy today. The marches of the Civil Rights Movement and the accompanied voting registration drives in the Jim Crow South would have been impossible without the Black people from those towns who hosted the out of town marchers in their homes and protected those same marchers with firearms against domestic terrorist attacks from [Ku Klux] Klan members and white mobs. While some of the current gun control laws were well intentioned and others weren't, I don't think that the current gun control law structure has had the desired effect of reducing gun violence.
This is [because] gun violence is not looked at holistically. There are many factors that contribute to the level of gun violence that we see, and the presence of the firearm itself is the smallest factor. Since firearms do not operate themselves there is a human element that must be contended with. Also, one must look at the differences between street crime-related gun violence and mass shootings.
Though the outcomes of the two instances are the same (injuries and death), the two phenomena are created by different conditions with structural poverty being the primary driver of street crime-related gun violence and a lack of societal mechanisms to identify and address individuals with mental illness or emotional instability in the case of mass shootings.
Al Jazeera: Is there a way to achieve responsible gun control? If so, what would be necessary?
Jefferson: While there are measures that could be instituted to curb gun violence, there is no one broad-based policy that addresses all gun violence without severely impeding on the rights of individuals who are unlikely to ever commit such crimes and such policies do not focus on the gun itself.
There is also the question of weighing the cost of prevention policies against the rights of the greater majority who do not commit gun violence. We have to remember that with every law there has to be an enforcement mechanism for when the law is violated. Our current legal system tends to lean toward draconian punishments for crimes and, given this fact, I am not inclined to believe that a slew of new gun control legislation would be much different. Given the history of the US, I can see a situation developing where black people are unfairly targeted by such laws. It has happened before in this country and it continues to happen to this day, particularly in the case of drug crime prosecutions.
Al Jazeera: The past few years have reportedly seen a rise in gun ownership in the African Americans community. What do you think is behind this?
Jefferson: There are multiple factors contributing to the rise in black gun ownership. One factor is the level of crime [experienced] in a number of our communities. People are concerned about their safety and realise that the police are not always able to respond in time to protect them. They want to be ready and able to protect themselves in the event that someone attempts to victimise them.
Another concern is the increase in violent rhetoric and acts from hate groups like the alt-right, KKK, and Neo-Nazis. There is a history in this country of such groups violently attacking members of the black community. The past has shown us that armed self-defence is a practical response to such instances where the state cannot be there to protect you due to physics (time and space), or won't be there due to incompetence, moral cowardice, or outright malice.
Al Jazeera: NAAGA was founded in February 2015 as an alternative to the NRA for the African Americans community. Why did the African Americans community need an alternative? What did the NRA's advocacy lack?
Jefferson: NAAGA seeks to address 2nd Amendment rights (those that guarantee gun ownership in the US) in a holistic fashion in regards to the African Americans community. When most people think of what a gun owner looks like, African Americans don't come to mind. Generally, this is true even amongst African Americans. NAAGA seeks to change this reality by educating African Americans on the rich history of the black tradition of arms in this country, which has been integral to every moment of African Americans self-determination which created conditions for African Americans to live as fully fledged citizens of a country that historically has not recognised us as full citizens.
I might cross-post this to the gun control thread.
...could they have picked a better, not as easy to be misinterpreted as a racial slur, acronym?
Nagas are fishmen/women too.
CBO report came out on the Senate bill yesterday.
It's... well, pretty much as bad or worse than expected.
Nagas are fishmen/women too.
Snakemen/women
CBO report came out on the Senate bill yesterday.
It's... well, pretty much as bad or worse than expected.
Cue "Well, the CBO is biased/they're not accounting for the massive growth cutting taxes THIS time will kick off!"
CBO: the Senate Republican tax bill takes billions from the poor
Probably the same information but I like how Vox organizes their stories.
CBO: the Senate Republican tax bill takes billions from the poor
Probably the same information but I like how Vox organizes their stories.
I'm kind of at a point where IDGAF if this passes or not. After a week in Texas with family they couldn't be bothered to pick up the call and even call their representatives. They're the ones with the power to convince their representatives to do the right thing and they can't even be bothered to make a phone call. According to this article my wife and I will benefit. So as much as the right thing to do is to get this bill killed, I'm struggling to see why I should care if the people this bill hurts don't care.
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