[Discussion] Mass Shootings - Yeah, we need a thread just for this...

This year is the deadliest year ever in terms of mass shootings. In a political climate of polarization, it becomes harder to suss out legitimate information from the misinformation propagated by those with political agendas. Complicating this more is the continual resistance of 2nd amendment advocates to allow for political talk surrounding these massacres. This will involve political discussion to see if there are ways we can all agree might be good ways to prevent mass shootings.

This discussion should involve the details of any current, or future mass shooting, and how they compare to past mass shootings. How are they the same? How are they different? Do gun laws have an impact? Does the race of the shooter affect how we treat them? What makes one a hate crime and one an act or terrorism? Are these shootings the price of freedom?

JLS wrote:
jdzappa wrote:
EverythingsTentative wrote:

The "Notice" that my son showed me on Snapchat ended in "Let's Go Brandon" so that gave me all the info I nedded.

To be clear, I'm not really buying into it. School officials and law enforcement though are on high alert, at least here in the greater Seattle area.

Some schools in the Twin Cities area closed. My district leadership investigated and determined there wasn't a valid-enough threat to close schools.

Same. It seems a number of people did keep their kids home today from middle and high school here.
Some dumb ass posted a video about shooting up a local school with his face visible. So I imagine that won't go well for him.

jdzappa wrote:

Not sure if other parents experienced this, but local schools are on alert due to the “kill your classmates for Christmas” TikTok challenge. I’m 99.999 percent sure that it’s sh*tlord trolling but still sucks that we are at this place in America.

I'd like to point out that despite the fact that the challenge may be obvious trolling, someone might fall for it and try it anyway. Even jokingly suggesting something like this without telling people it's a joke is incredibly dangerous in a society where we have to put warning labels on coffee telling people that it's hot. I know charges will probably never be filed for this, but they should be.

Atras wrote:

I know it's a lot of fun to pile on the hate for social media, but maybe we should be a tad more pissed about the f*cking stupid near-universal access to murder toys?

Also, this. It wouldn't be nearly as dangerous if kids hadn't proven time and time again that if they want a firearm, they can probably get one without too much trouble.

Keldar wrote:

in a society where we have to put warning labels on coffee telling people that it's hot.

C'mon man

Stengah wrote:
Keldar wrote:

in a society where we have to put warning labels on coffee telling people that it's hot.

C'mon man

We can't even sue gun manufacturers for making and marketing their murder toys.

Stengah wrote:
Keldar wrote:

in a society where we have to put warning labels on coffee telling people that it's hot.

C'mon man

I wasn't talking about the lawsuit, just about all the stupid glaringly obvious warning labels we have to put on everything. "This product contains peanuts" on a jar of peanuts. Sleeping pills with a warning that they "may cause drowsiness". We live in a society where apparently we have to completely spell things out for people. When you have people trolling "For this challenge go kill people" and you don't specifically say it's a joke, there's a pretty decent chance at least one person thinks it's a real thing.

So a neo-Nazi murdered five people in Denver yesterday. He also shot and wounded a cop before being shot and killed by them.

On multiple occasions the murderer commented on tweets from white supremacist boot-licker and facist suck up Andy Ngo using the alias Roman McClay as well as other alt-right sh*theads.

He also wrote and self-published books under this alias that Amazon reviews described as deeply racist and misogynistic. In one of them, the main character--named his real name--kills dozens of people.

The blue lives matter people are going to be all over this praising this cop for taking down that nazi any minute now. I mean if they support cops for killing people for passing fake bills and holding sandwiches surely they will support a cop for killing a nazi killing people.

OG_slinger wrote:

So a neo-Nazi murdered five people in Denver yesterday. He also shot and wounded a cop before being shot and killed by them.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

The blue lives matter people are going to be all over this praising this cop for taking down that nazi any minute now. I mean if they support cops for killing people for passing fake bills and holding sandwiches surely they will support a cop for killing a nazi killing people.

I mean, he shot a cop. The Blue Lives Matter people are all going to be behind a cop killing someone who shot a cop. Besides, anyone who shoots at one of America's fine police officers clearly isn't a real Nazi anyway, right?

No True Nazi

This guy had a rather successful niche writing career churning out neo-Nazi thrillers where one of his characters goes on a mass shooter rampage. He even had a 4.5 star rating on Goodreads before his page was taken down so it seems he had a cult following.

Too bad he wasn’t put on any watch list due to his extremely disturbing writing. Not that it would likely have mattered.

Something going on in Mall of America. My friend who is there is being detained for what the mall is describing as an active shooter.

Edit.

Guess it wasn’t a mass shooting.