Listening to the Billboard Top 100 Charts (1946 - Present)

So Simon & Garfunkel's version of "A Hazy Shade of Winter" did NOT make the top 100 list, but the Bangles version did. Should it make the Honorable mentions list of top 100 Hippie songs?

I'm going to try and track songs that I think are part of the run up to full on "Alternative" music, and I think this should be included in this. #protoalternative

When I think of Tiffany, it's almost exclusively as the artist of "I think We're Alone Now" which to my mind is one of the most 80's of 80's songs. But what has proven true decade after decade is that while certain genres or styles dominate the popular musical memory of decades gone by, a HUGE swath of each decade is dominated by soft love songs. Without exception this have proven to be the case for Every. Single. Decade.

And that's well illustrated here. I think We're Alone Now? Number 18 in 1987. This (good but) fairly standard love song? Number 8 in 1988. And yet! The youtube views are running 28 Million for Alone, and only 2 for this. We don't remember the musical past as it was.

I had both of Tiffany's CDs from the 80s, but Debbie Gibson was my true love.

jrralls wrote:

I'm going to try and track songs that I think are part of the run up to full on "Alternative" music, and I think this should be included in this. #protoalternative

I agree that this was a watershed song.

Also - Tiffany has just appeared on a dreadful Australian reality TV show I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here!

Ohmygosh, ohmygosh, ohmygosh, this is too too perfect. Guys, Guys! I think I've found the VERY FIRST rap song to ever make the top 100. It was released in June 25, 1988 but didn't make the billboard top 100 list until 1989 where it was #8.

There are some heavy heavy HEAVY pop influences too, the chorus for instance is pure pop, not rap, but it makes total sense that the first really broadly popular rap song would have strong elements of what people were used to. But the fact remains that the bulk of the lyrics in the song is two dudes rapping (about love, because of course the first rap song to chart is a fairly generic love song in its message) so I think it's OK to call it a rap song. In addition to making the regular top 100, it also came in at #2 on the US Billboard Hot Rap Singles, which is another indicator to me that it can be considered a rap song.

The song seems to be tailored made to be inoffensive and easy to listen to, something which it accomplishes well, and the artists in the music video are also shown to be two fun dudes who are super happy. I'll get into my thoughts of how the treatment of the artists shows a huge musical cultural change between 1989 and today, but before I do, anyone want to guess what the first Rap Song to hit the Billboard Top 100 was?

Link here after you guess, I promise it's not a Rick-roll; https://goo.gl/Qv3Nkf

I can’t click on a video link right now, but I have a guess.

Spoiler:

is Robin Williams one of the people in the video?

Interesting! I would not have guessed them.

Okay. My guess was way off. From skimming your description during a brief moment of free time at work, I was wondering if in some sort of 80s madness they classified Bobby McFarrin's "Don't Worry Be Happy" as a rap song. Now that I'm re-reading your description, there's a bunch that would've ruled out my guess, but the phrase "two fun dudes who are super happy" made me think of Robin Williams and the other guy from that video. I'm relieved that I was wrong.

Paula Abdul was the first musician I can remember having a crush on. Who was the first musician you can remember having a crush on? #allpopsongs

jrralls wrote:

Paula Abdul was the first musician I can remember having a crush on. Who was the first musician you can remember having a crush on? #allpopsongs

Chrissie Hynde from The Pretenders

Terri Nunn from Berlin.

jrralls wrote:

Who was the first musician you can remember having a crush on? #allpopsongs

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Belinda Carlisle.

jrralls wrote:

Who was the first musician you can remember having a crush on? #allpopsongs

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Shirley Manson, Garbage.

STILL DO.

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Sandra Cretu. Yes,I was very young. Those dimples, though!

#mikeiswrong ? Because I've heard Bon Jovi's "I'll be There For You" plenty of times. It's a solid Rock song (and ROCK songs are far less common on the top 100 list than I would have thought before I started this) but I would have bet 10 to 1 odds that in the pop cultural Zietgiest it would have been completely supplemented and overshadowed by the Remberants "I'll Be There For You" purely because it was the Theme Song to Friends, one of the most popular sitcoms of all time, but YouTube tells me not just no, but HELLS No! Because Bon Jovi's title has 136 MILLION hits, while the Remberants has a paltry 6 Million. I guess there is simply no stopping the juggernaught that is 80's music.

In a more just timeline, this is the first Rap Song that made it to the year end top 100 song. But at least it's in there along with Ton Loc's other hit of the year, Funky Cold Medina. And Ton Loc is recognizably the ancestor of today's rap hits in a way that Milli Vanilli just aren't.

#birthofpopularrap #songofthefuture

For the most part, I've recognized every single 80's hit I've listened to. You have to get to the very last of the top 100 before the songs cease to be eminently familiar and even then I have at least a inkling familiarity with them even if it's on the "Wow, I haven't heard this in a long time"-level. But both the artist and the song (#36) are a total and complete blank to me. It doesn't seem to have appeared in any movie/tv soundtracks (unlike "Wild Thing" which has regularly appeared in movies from 1989's Uncle Buck to 2016's Angry Birds) so that may play a factor.

I remember Nenah Cherry. I really liked her single Buddy-X from her follow-up album, but I don't think it got as much traction as Buffalo Stance. I also just found out via google that she has a daughter, Mabel, who's doing pretty well in the UK music scene at the moment.

Another 80's song I have no memory of hearing before! The Youtube video has very low hits for a top 100 eighties song, (1.8M) but it doesn't quite meet my qualifications for a forgotten song (under 1M views).

In a more just timeline, this is the first Rap Song that made it to the year end top 100 song. But at least it's in there along with Ton Loc's other hit of the year, Funky Cold Medina.

Yeah, that would have been my guess for first mainstream rap song. When you posed the question, Tone Loc and hanging out at the big arcade (edit: it was called Scandia) instantly came to mind. But I'm Malor, Cultural Cretin, so figured that couldn't be right, and didn't say anything. At least in my area, those two songs were huge. They got an incredible amount of airtime. They must have been top 5 where I was, for sure. But, apparently that would have been the wrong answer, so I'm glad I didn't say anything... Cultural Cretin strikes again.

Had no idea Wild Thing was released so long before it hit the mainstream. Wonder how that happened?

Buffalo Stance is also totally new to me. I don't remember ever hearing it before. Could it be a troll entry on someone's list?

The Sheenah Easton song I do recognize, though. I've definitely heard that one, although I'd totally forgotten it.

Malor wrote:

Buffalo Stance is also totally new to me. I don't remember ever hearing it before. Could it be a troll entry on someone's list?

No, this is fairly easy to look up; https://www.billboard.com/archive/ch...
http://www.bobborst.com/popculture/t...

I do not recognize the Buffalo song at all either.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I do not recognize the Buffalo song at all either.

She was a one-album wonder and THEN it was almost 20 years until she released another album; that's a good recipe for being forgotten in the music world.

I remember it! I can still recite almost the whole song.

New Kids on the Block is the first band I can remember a backlash at. I would have been 11 or so when they had four (4!) top 100 songs in 1989 and I can distinctly recall the school loving them and then, seemingly overnight, it was no longer cool to like them and if you didn't HATE them you were super un-cool. Which band do you first remember having a backlash against (whether you were part of the backlash or not)?

Metal is very very rare on the top 100. Very rare. I'm having been keeping track, but the songs that do make it to the top 100 are always some type of a ROCK/METAL hybrid. For example, quick googling shows that some people appear to say this song as rock, but if it is rock and not metal than there is the very real possibility that there are ZERO metal songs on the top 100. To put that in perspective there are probably almost a dozen no-doubt-about-it disco songs on the top 100.

jrralls wrote:

Which band do you first remember having a backlash against (whether you were part of the backlash or not)?

The very one you feel had the first rap song in the top 100: Milli Vanilli. Them getting found out for lip syncing didn't go over well.

I think I actually still might have the 39 cent settlement check I got from the class action lawsuit that was filed after everything came out because, yeah, I bought their album. *Hangs head in shame*

OG_slinger wrote:
jrralls wrote:

Which band do you first remember having a backlash against (whether you were part of the backlash or not)?

The very one you feel had the first rap song in the top 100: Milli Vanilli. Them getting found out for lip syncing didn't go over well.

I think I actually still might have the 39 cent settlement check I got from the class action lawsuit that was filed after everything came out because, yeah, I bought their album. *Hangs head in shame*

Meh, I bought the album and really liked it. I even saw them in the Club MTV tour. They may not have been able to sing the songs well, but they were still good pop songs no matter who sang them. And I still listen to a couple of their songs today.