NHL 2017-18

Christ. Alex Galchenyuk straight up for Max Domi.

I've thought Marc Bergevin was completely incompetent since summer 2013 but I expected even he would get a better return than that when he finally got around to getting fleeced for Galchenyuk.

If you want some encouragement, Domi finished last season with 14 points in 15 games and seems to be fully healed from his shoulder injury. There no off-ice problems with him either. He probably told out as a 60 point undersized but gritty player. Actually pretty good at even-strength too. Honestly, at this point, it’s a good return. The biggest issue was Galchenyuk should have been traded before the start of last season.

Vector wrote:

If you want some encouragement, Domi finished last season with 14 points in 15 games and seems to be fully healed from his shoulder injury. There no off-ice problems with him either. He probably told out as a 60 point undersized but gritty player. Actually pretty good at even-strength too. Honestly, at this point, it’s a good return. The biggest issue was Galchenyuk should have been traded before the start of last season.

Yeah, no off-ice problems...

Between Shaw and Domi it's clear what type of CHaracter Bergevin values. Bigots on the LW, bigots on the RW, nothing up the middle

Biggest issue is Bergevin's Habs never put him in a position to succeed, in the position where he played at his best and was more comfortable with. Except in the dying minutes of a must-win playoff game when they needed a goal, then the coaching staff decided maybe putting this guy out at centre was a good idea. They played Paul Byron (who's a sneaky nice winger) at centre last year.

Domi coming off a low-% year himself makes things a tiny bit better, but trading Galchenyuk when he's just come off his lowest shooting percentage year of his career is just asking to get fleeced. Percentages regress, shot generation persists.

To be fair, most hockey players are the exact same type of idiot. He’s not someone I would ever want to cheer for but he’s going to fit into the dressing room find.

I don’t think it’s a good trade but it’s fine. Domi isn’t the guy I’d target but it’s not like they got fleeced. I think Bergevin is one of the worst GMs in the NHL too (him, Benning, and Dorion are a very solid trio of suck).

I don't think the trade makes a top-10 worse Bergevin moves and it doesn't handcuff his successor - they can't aspire to be anything more than mediocre until the Price and Weber contracts are off the books and this isn't a Nets Trade but it's a bad move.

You're giving up a guy capable of playing a premium position for another winger when you already have more than those than you need and Galchenyuk's puckhandling and one-timer will be sorely missed on the powerplay - they don't have another guy capable of stepping into his role. Though the powerplay's probably going to go back to being an inefficient mess to accommodate Weber again.

Draft talk?

Was happy when the Canadians passed on Zdina but then the Sens did also and took Tkachuk. Only thing that made that more palatable was Zdina sliding to 6th so maybe he wasn't the lock people were implying.

Thing with Tkachuk is the floor and ceiling seem pretty obvious. Also the way things are trending when players are described as gritty and 'classic power forward' hes more likely to end up on a 3rd line not 1st long term.

Add in the Hoffman stuff and the Sens could be in Trouble next year.

give it a week, it's gonna get so much worse

It was a pretty boring draft, no trades other than pick swaps. I was excited for Montreal or Edmonton to do something stupid and they just sat there and drafted guys instead.

Ugh, Tavares leaving us for the Leafs is heartbreaking. No doubt he has good reasons for leaving a shaky organization but would have been nice if there was some indication he was thinking of leaving instead of the constant talk of not leaving.

Honestly, it looks to me like he was always going to go to Toronto, but didn't want to sabotage his negotiating position.

Full disclosure: I'm a Leafs fan and extremely happy about this.

According to what he said during the press conference Sunday, he spent all day Saturday waffling between Toronto and NYI. Apparently it was an extremely hard decision to actually make, my feeling is that he honestly didn't know what to do.

Quote from Tavares: "As we got back from LA, I just felt like my heart was in two places: Where I am from and a place where I have been for a long time that helped me become the man I am today. My gut was just tearing apart. My heart was tearing apart trying to figure out what I wanted to do. Yesterday was one heck of a day."

Really sucks for NYI, they couldn't get anything for him leaving because of the way it went down. Maybe they should have forced him to say either way during the season, so that at least they'd get something back if it didn't go their way? It sounds like NYI went all in on convincing him to stay and lost.

Is there a Fantasy Hockey league here?

Is there enough/any interest?

Nothing about the Sharks trading for Erik Karlsson?

Because f**k that sh*t.

Some commenter on Reddit wrote:

EK shark doo doo doo doo doo doo

Playing against Karlsson was more fun and carefree when he wasn't on a hated rival:

*Legion* wrote:

Nothing about the Sharks trading for Erik Karlsson?

Because f**k that sh*t.

The Sens didn't even get a bunch of magic beans, just a pile of mediocrity and a 1st round pick that will probably be quite late. I would have expected at least one top-100 prospect.

The "don't embarrass me again" condition the Senators insisted on was pretty funny though.

It’s a really really really bad trade. Great for the Sharks even if he doesn’t re-sign.

Really sad what's happened in Ottawa. Hopefully they turn it around for the fans sake. As an Islander's fan I can relate to how much poor management can just suck.

there's no coming back from this without a transfer of ownership.

the entire fan base is already livid with them and all they do is keep pissing in our faces.

Shifter wrote:

Really sad what's happened in Ottawa. Hopefully they turn it around for the fans sake. As an Islander's fan I can relate to how much poor management can just suck.

But, Charles Wang was going to build a new arena complex with his money, all the municipal cash was to be used for infrastructure improvements (and probably bribes. I mean, it is New York state.)

.. and John Spano had a vision!

So excited the Rangers got Kakko!

Loving the moves they made so far the past few seasons including getting JD into the front office! Can't wait for the season!

Oh and grats to St Louis!

whispa wrote:

So excited the Rangers got Kakko!

Loving the moves they made so far the past few seasons including getting JD into the front office! Can't wait for the season!

Oh and grats to St Louis!

Thanks!

It would figure the year we don’t have a thread is the year we brought the Cup to the Lou!

It was fun seeing Hughes go number one. In January, local sports radio was talking about Lose for Hughes and blowing the team up. This has been a wild ride.