Nintendo Switch Catch-All 2.0

It looks like a quality addition to me. Not "Hey buy it again $60" addition for me personally, but cool nonetheless. (Def a library rental for me. So glad my library has Switch games.)

I feel like they're missing out on not having Bowser Fury as an Amiibo.

Dyni wrote:

Mario's Dynamax form is looking good.

Lol

Seriously, did they crib that straight from Pokemon or what?!?

These price tags just make these all insta no-gos for me. Hell, tropical Freeze is still more expensive on the Switch than I paid for it on the Wii-U. I know they won't but it would be nice if they had a classics, or platinum, series like Sony has done in the past where they start with a lower bar price tag.

So Bowser's Fury is looking like an Odyssey-style game set in a 3D World-inspired area. Not really the follow-up to 3D World I was hoping for. That said, at least non-WiiU owners can now play and fall in love with 3D World and hopefully that will inspire Nintendo to make a true sequel for the Nintendo SwitchU in 5 more years.

I'm almost certainly going to double-dip at full price just to vote with my wallet, play Bowser's Fury with my kids, and possibly even replay all of 3D World with them, as well. Might even go for the full 100% this time.

Now, can we PLEASE get one new Mario Kart this gen? Previous generations would get one for console and one for portable!

EvilDead wrote:

These price tags just make these all insta no-gos for me. Hell, tropical Freeze is still more expensive on the Switch than I paid for it on the Wii-U. I know they won't but it would be nice if they had a classics, or platinum, series like Sony has done in the past where they start with a lower bar price tag.

Nintendo has done that in the past, too. They just wait longer.

EvilDead wrote:

These price tags just make these all insta no-gos for me. Hell, tropical Freeze is still more expensive on the Switch than I paid for it on the Wii-U. I know they won't but it would be nice if they had a classics, or platinum, series like Sony has done in the past where they start with a lower bar price tag.

That is kind of where I am too. The 3D World looks good to me, but I don't think $60 good. Same with a lot of the recent re-releases. I bounced off Odyssey, so I am not very interested in a Bowser version of that.

Blind_Evil wrote:
EvilDead wrote:

These price tags just make these all insta no-gos for me. Hell, tropical Freeze is still more expensive on the Switch than I paid for it on the Wii-U. I know they won't but it would be nice if they had a classics, or platinum, series like Sony has done in the past where they start with a lower bar price tag.

Nintendo has done that in the past, too. They just wait longer.

Right about now is when they start to put something like that together, but it usually requires them to reach X number of units sold. "Player Selects" I think is the typical label they use. If I were to make a bold prediction, the first line-up would release around when Breath of the Wild 2 finally gets a confirmed release date, with Breath of the Wild being one of the titles.

No clue if Tropical Freeze would have sold enough by then.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Now, can we PLEASE get one new Mario Kart this gen? Previous generations would get one for console and one for portable!

If people would stop buying MK8 in droves, they might.

Jonman wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

Now, can we PLEASE get one new Mario Kart this gen? Previous generations would get one for console and one for portable!

If people would stop buying MK8 in droves, they might.

I know that's what they say, and if MK8 has so many owners and more buy it every day, how about some more DLC courses?

Wouldn’t be shocked if they were working on MK9 as a launch game for whatever the next hardware ends up being.

Bowser's Fury looks really interesting. Makes me sad that it's spliced to something I've already consumed and enjoyed; there's no way that there's enough content there to make it worth the $60 on its own.

Maybe it'll get the Captain Toad treatment and we'll get a stand-alone followup...

Blind_Evil wrote:
EvilDead wrote:

These price tags just make these all insta no-gos for me. Hell, tropical Freeze is still more expensive on the Switch than I paid for it on the Wii-U. I know they won't but it would be nice if they had a classics, or platinum, series like Sony has done in the past where they start with a lower bar price tag.

Nintendo has done that in the past, too. They just wait longer.

Then they release the same game and the price goes back up to $60. I'm looking at you Tropical Freeze!

Edit: I just checked my amazon history and I bought The Last of Us remastered for $10 on 11/2016! Amazon price history shows that it's MSRP was $20 at that point. It appears to have been out about the same amount of time at that point as the Tropical Freeze remaster has been out which is still a full $60. Craziness!

Nintendo has spoken on the matter in the past, they feel like deep price cuts tend to devalue their brands, and try to avoid them if it isn’t necessary. In real talk: selling your best products for $10 is some broke sh*t.

I would imagine they’ve done the math and figured out what works best for them. Does lowering from $60 to $30 get you more than double the sales going forward?

Yeah, I can't fault Nintendo for their strategy, they certainly have enough money to know what they're doing in re pricing. Would I like to get all their games for $10/piece? Hell yes! But they hold their value for a reason. Evergreen and all that.

That's fine for them to say, and sell for what they want to, but they aren't going to be getting me to double dip in that case.

It's also the same company that sold me Tropical Freeze Wii-U for $20! I guess you could argue Wii-U was "some broke sh*t" times for Nintendo

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I know that's what they say, and if MK8 has so many owners and more buy it every day, how about some more DLC courses?

New Mario Odyssey DLC Kingdom first.

Vargen wrote:

Maybe it'll get the Captain Toad treatment and we'll get a stand-alone followup...

Speaking of games I want a full sequel to! Mario Kart, 3D World, and Captain Toad!

True.. I own both MK8 on WiiU and Switch and it is basically the same game. I gave in and ended up getting it on the switch so we could play with family and friends... I got a cheaper copy used from ebay

Would you guys/girls recommend getting a Switch now? I'm tempted as it's impossible to get a Series X here for the foreseeable future.

ccesarano wrote:

Did the WiiU allow for online play? I don't recall, but Switch allows for online co-op.

95% sure it didn't. That's cool for the Switch version! Such an amazing game.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Nintendo has spoken on the matter in the past, they feel like deep price cuts tend to devalue their brands, and try to avoid them if it isn’t necessary. In real talk: selling your best products for $10 is some broke sh*t.

I would imagine they’ve done the math and figured out what works best for them. Does lowering from $60 to $30 get you more than double the sales going forward?

There's also a real lack of meaningful competition for Nintendo's core franchises. Sony makes very good first-party games, but they're largely going after the same audiences in the same genres as the other big companies. They need to lower their prices to stay relevant against the competition.

But there aren't many developers throwing their best and brightest—and gobs of money—at games for kids and families like Nintendo does, and none have as good of a reputation. EA isn't turning Respawn and BioWare loose to make kart racers and 2D platformers. Nintendo does, and because they're the only ones who do, they can hold premium prices for longer.

And with the Wii U ports specifically, Nintendo knows that most people didn't get a Wii U and even among those who did, few of them played everything the company had to offer. For most of their potential buyers, something like Mario 3D World is a brand new Mario game they've never seen before. People will pay full price for that. I know I would if I weren't one of the very few who actually did play everything on the Wii U.

MadGav wrote:

Would you guys/girls recommend getting a Switch now? I'm tempted as it's impossible to get a Series X here for the foreseeable future.

Sure, if there are games you want to play. It is a pretty good system and the portability really is the main feature.

It's a great machine for playing indies and certain last-gen games in bed, and of course for Nintendo exclusives, especially if you skipped the Wii U.

It's not a substitute for true current-gen gaming, but I think we're finally past pretending that it was ever intended to be.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

There's also a real lack of meaningful competition for Nintendo's core franchises. Sony makes very good first-party games, but they're largely going after the same audiences in the same genres as the other big companies. They need to lower their prices to stay relevant against the competition.

But there aren't many developers throwing their best and brightest—and gobs of money—at games for kids and families like Nintendo does, and none have as good of a reputation. EA isn't turning Respawn and BioWare loose to make kart racers and 2D platformers. Nintendo does, and because they're the only ones who do, they can hold premium prices for longer.

A podcast and a couple YouTube channels I listen to/watch discussed Astro's Playroom as being the most Nintendo thing Sony has ever done, but also drew different responses from different people. For some, it didn't hit the same nostalgia funny bone with its many Easter Eggs that Nintendo games tend to be full of. However, for those where Sony systems and gaming on Sony platforms has been such a huge part of their life, it finally allowed them to "get" what Nintendo fans feel for those iconic characters.

But I can't help but feel like there's something different there. Even if, mechanically speaking and in terms of pure cartoonish joy, Astro's Playroom imitates that same love of fun and history, there's something inherently different about, y'know, seeing a cartoon depiction of Pyramid Head torturing a Playbot. You're taking something very adult and interpreting it in a cute, cartoonish, playful fashion.

I feel like it speaks to what you're saying, here: Sony's effectively spent their entire life cycle catering to "cool" and "hip" teenagers or doing their best to seem mature and adult and prestige. Even their competitor to Mario repeated SEGA's tactic of "Look how dweeby that plumber is compared to our zany anthropomorphized mammal!"

A friend of mine has three boys, aged nine, six, and four. They all play a variety of video games. Despite the fact that they've all played Mario 3D World already on a used-purchased WiiU system, he's still excited about Super Mario 3D World, if only because being on the Switch is enough to make it easier for them all to play together.

All of this to say that, when your characters are not only able to appeal to your personal nostalgia, but are so finely crafted that you can unironically enjoy them as an adult, and especially with your kids (and especially as he's had a chance to play a lot of the competition and see them fail to stick as well as Mario can), it's a lot easier to keep that $60 price tag. The likes of Ghost of Tsushima and Last of Us 2 made a splash in 2020, but I wouldn't be surprised if the greater gaming community has moved on. In the meantime, Mario will still sell, and will continue to do so at full price (or the occasional sale dip to $40-45).

I had high hopes that the Bowser Fury "addon" could be 4-op action to enjoy it with my family... I wont get the game until that is confrimed.

Darkhaund wrote:

I had high hopes that the Bowser Fury "addon" could be 4-op action to enjoy it with my family... I wont get the game until that is confrimed.

The video I linked earlier basically said it wasn't. It's at most two-player co-op with the second player controlling Bowser Jr.

LeapingGnome wrote:
MadGav wrote:

Would you guys/girls recommend getting a Switch now? I'm tempted as it's impossible to get a Series X here for the foreseeable future.

Sure, if there are games you want to play. It is a pretty good system and the portability really is the main feature.

I haven’t touched the Xbox since we got 2 Switches in our house. I’m REALLY tempted to get a third Switch which could be exclusively mine. Right now I’m mooching off of my kids.

Load times are quicker than Xbox. It’s as quick and easy to boot up a game as it is on your phone. As someone else stated, it has a great selection of indie games. The indie titles are constantly going on sale for deep discounts.

I’m officially enabling you to get a Switch.

I really have just been playing my Switch lite recentlly.... and with my 3rd baby comming up next WEEK possibly, i guess my gaming time will be reduced even more

MadGav wrote:

Would you guys/girls recommend getting a Switch now? I'm tempted as it's impossible to get a Series X here for the foreseeable future.

I would. 100% It is a great, great system.

However what I normally recommend to folks is - look at Metacritic's top scoring switch games and see if you can find enough games you want to play. I think 5-10 games that look good to you is enough to justify it - especially if they are games like Breath of the Wild, or Fire Emblem which can be 60+ hour games.

Normally I'd say a Switch is a must buy, but there are strong rumours that Nintendo will release a Switch Pro this year. It would be a shame to buy a Switch now and then find out the Switch Pro releases in April.

Djinn wrote:

Normally I'd say a Switch is a must buy, but there are strong rumours that Nintendo will release a Switch Pro this year. It would be a shame to buy a Switch now and then find out the Switch Pro releases in April.

Yeah, but if you had taken that tack 2 years ago, you'd still be sitting there without a Switch today. There've been Switch Pro rumors forever.