Nintendo Switch Catch-All 2.0

The announcement of a Switch Lite sinks the counterargument that Nintendo would or should cater for something dedicated that the Switch already offers as a hybrid. Well. There's now a Switch that does not switch. To the benefit and the saving of the home console handheld audience.

Do we know if the Switch Lite will be usable as a controller on another Switch? If so, that would make the purchase a bit more likely for me.

Djinn wrote:

Do we know if the Switch Lite will be usable as a controller on another Switch? If so, that would make the purchase a bit more likely for me.

I'm guessing not, as you can't use regular Joycons with it, so I'm assuming it lacks the wireless hardware.

Actually in the original video it indicates you'll need to connect JoyCons to the Switch Lite to play games like 1-2-Switch, so it still has that functionality.

ccesarano wrote:

Actually in the original video it indicates you'll need to connect JoyCons to the Switch Lite to play games like 1-2-Switch, so it still has that functionality.

Check the "Compatibility" section at the bottom of the page on Ninty's own site:. That sure looks to me like it's not compatible with joycons.

Yeah but the specific verbiage is:

Joy-Con controllers not included

System does not include HD Rumble or IR Motion Camera.

In other words, the system likely just views the controls as permanently attached JoyCons, but all the software and hardware required for connecting alternate wireless controllers remains intact.

Just... don't think it'd be comfortable without a stand of sorts.

ccesarano wrote:

Yeah but the specific verbiage is:

Joy-Con controllers not included

System does not include HD Rumble or IR Motion Camera.

In other words, the system likely just views the controls as permanently attached JoyCons, but all the software and hardware required for connecting alternate wireless controllers remains intact.

Just... don't think it'd be comfortable without a stand of sorts.

Keep scrolling down - you didn't make it far enough down the page.

You mean this part?

For games that do not support handheld mode, players can wirelessly connect compatible controllers (sold separately) to Nintendo Switch Lite. If using separate Joy-Con controllers, users will need to have a device to recharge them, such as the Joy-Con Charging Grip.

Nothing here contradicts what I said, and in fact confirms it, just with the caveat that you'll need a way to charge your JoyCons.

Granted this still doesn't answer Djinn's question, just rules out your objection that JoyCons don't work with the device, as Nintendo has clearly stated in writing there and in the video that, yes, JoyCons can work with games. They even have a graphic to indicate JoyCon controllers are compatible, they just don't have the IR Sensor or HD Rumble on the device itself.

ccesarano wrote:

You mean this part?

For games that do not support handheld mode, players can wirelessly connect compatible controllers (sold separately) to Nintendo Switch Lite. If using separate Joy-Con controllers, users will need to have a device to recharge them, such as the Joy-Con Charging Grip.

Nothing here contradicts what I said, and in fact confirms it, just with the caveat that you'll need a way to charge your JoyCons.

Granted this still doesn't answer Djinn's question, just rules out your objection that JoyCons don't work with the device, as Nintendo has clearly stated in writing there and in the video that, yes, JoyCons can work with games. They even have a graphic to indicate JoyCon controllers are compatible, they just don't have the IR Sensor or HD Rumble on the device itself.

OK, cool.

Then their compatibility table on the linked page is ambiguous to the point of uselessness.

Jonman wrote:

Then their compatibility table on the linked page is ambiguous to the point of uselessness. :)

Yes, it is, but only because it says "Compatible" instead of "Features" or something like that.

The Switch Lite should sell like gangbusters for those with young children. Parents don't want their kids hogging the television. Each child wants their own everything. It's more affordable. It has no detachable parts to misplace. Christmas may see a lot of these under trees. I know my nephew's have been eyeing a Switch, as has their mother, and grandmother, for them. This could do it. One Switch for them to fight over. Or two Lites for serene happiness.

It's a nice positive to counter the disappointment from my more home console orientated circle, whom were hoping for a hardware refresh, a Pro, or at the very least a dedicated home console model to follow this dedicated portable handheld model.

Better hope the parents figure out how to not have to buy digital games twice!

LeapingGnome wrote:

Better hope the parents figure out how to not have to buy digital games twice!

I'm sure Nintendo will make it transparent and seamless.

Just catching up on the news, how is this not called the Lite Switch?

Sorry if that one's been done already

Ars Technica: Evidence points to another Switch hardware revision on the horizon

While they managed to dig up some details on the rumored Switch Pro, they were less successful at finding any clues on 2013 Wii U ports.

It will be after the holiday's I would think since they seem to be pushing the Lite Switch, err Switch Lite. I can't imagine them not announcing them at the same time. So I expect if a more powerful Switch is coming it will be next year.

ComfortZone wrote:

Just catching up on the news, how is this not called the Lite Switch?

Sorry if that one's been done already :)

I dunno but I’m calling it that now thanks.

The Switch 2000 is good. I'm telling myself no but my shelf of Nintendo revisions says yes. Dont tempt me light green.

This Super-Customizable Controller Might Be a Secret Weapon for the Nintendo Switch
* not sure why the Switch needs a "secret weapon" but the controller looks cool.

I believe people complain about dead zones and such on the JoyCons.

That's kind of making me wish I'd gotten one of those instead of the Pro Controller. I'll be getting either the SN30 Pro or Pro+ at some point, cuz I've been wanting a controller with a good, primary position dpad for a long time now.

Cripes I want that just to be able to flip the damn A and B buttons. Why Nintendo, why?!

farley3k wrote:

This Super-Customizable Controller Might Be a Secret Weapon for the Nintendo Switch
* not sure why the Switch needs a "secret weapon" but the controller looks cool.

8BitDo has been teasing that controller for like a year, I think it was originally supposed to be out for holiday 2018? I keep holding off on buying the regular SN30 Pro as my main Switch/emulation controller because I know a week after I do they'll finally announce when the Plus comes out.

Edit: frell me it's finally up on Amazon for pre-order with a release date.

PaladinTom wrote:

Cripes I want that just to be able to flip the damn A and B buttons. Why Nintendo, why?!

Because it's the standard in Japan and it only changed in America for no reason during the PlayStation era. Also: why should Nintendo switch the order they've used since the NES? It's everyone else who is wrong!

I'm actually reaching the point where I play my Switch enough it's the PS4 and Xbox 360 configurations that screw me up.

ccesarano wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

Cripes I want that just to be able to flip the damn A and B buttons. Why Nintendo, why?!

Because it's the standard in Japan and it only changed in America for no reason during the PlayStation era. Also: why should Nintendo switch the order they've used since the NES? It's everyone else who is wrong!

Genesis had the correct button order. Just saying

Edit: Now, I'm kind of annoyed I bought the SN30 Pro a few months ago. I wish I had known this was coming out.

Yeah Sony of America are the ones who f*cked it up. They switched even though Japan uses O for accept and X for cancel because duh.

Microsoft just did it to be different than Nintendo but Sony should have stuck to tradition and I'd have no confusion because I don't use Microsoft consoles.

Would be nice if you could change it in the settings though. I'll never get used to it. I dont want to get used to it, since then I'll just screw up on everything else.

Shadout wrote:

Would be nice if you could change it in the settings though. I'll never get used to it. I dont want to get used to it, since then I'll just screw up on everything else.

This.

All consoles should allow a OS-level setting to define default Accept and Cancel buttons, in the same way X360 (and I assume XBONE, but I don't have one) allowed a Y-axis invert/not to be defined at the console level.

Have any of you replaced a stick on their JoyCon successfully?

-BEP

bepnewt wrote:

Have any of you replaced a stick on their JoyCon successfully?

-BEP

I have that question too. Mine started drifting a few days ago. Time to buy new joycons.