Nintendo Switch Catch-All 2.0

garion333 wrote:

Yeah, no. That flopped most spectacular. They'd be burning a larger hole in their pocket re-releasing it.

And here I was hoping the joke would be obvious.

And I think the hype cycle in general is at fault. The leaks are just a part. I've mostly been bringing them up because there's been so damn many of them and they all kinda go together.

Yeah, it all comes down to taking consumerism too far, pretty much, and the hype cycle manipulates and cultivates a consumerist frenzy. It's a weird world we live in.

Regardless of what they show, I think I'll be happy to just have some clear dates and more info.

Actually, here's a bold prediction: given there's a Nintendo Switch TV spot featuring FFVII, the only game not yet out on the system despite appearing in the ad, I'm gonna go ahead and get people's hopes up for someone saying "And it's available for download today" during the Direct.

...then again, I might be the only one that's actually excited to buy it again.

garion333 wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

That said: if they don't port Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE they're just leaving money on the table.

Yeah, no. That flopped most spectacular. They'd be burning a larger hole in their pocket re-releasing it.

I don't know that I agree with that. Nintendo lost money on TMS, but they lost money on almost everything they developed for the Wii U, most especially anything developed and released late in the console's life, as TMS was. By the time it came out, even the Nintendo faithful had given up on the platform. That game's reputation has improved since launch and since the shock of it looking like neither SMT nor FE has worn off.

Everything that released on both Wii U and Switch has made more money on Switch. If the cost to adapt a game to the new platform isn't too high, it arguably is leaving money on the table to not port it over. Which is why I think we'll see eventual ports of "unportable" games like Star Fox Zero. As far as the market is concerned, the Wii U library is effectively a trove of finished but unreleased games.

I'm not saying that TMS is a monster hit waiting to happen. It's a niche game, always will be, and was always going to be. But if Nintendo wants to break even on that project, this is their chance to do it, and I think it might work.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Tangledeep sold more copies on Switch in a week than in six months of Steam Early Access. Maybe porting over all those passe PC games isn't such a bad idea.

I'm just gonna ignore the snarky part and agree, MORE PC PORTS! Port all the things!

XCOM, now!

Rimworld, now!

Two Point Hospital, now!

Battletech, now!

All those Infinity Engine Enhanced Editions, now!

Nuclear Throne, now!

Sid Meier's Pirates, now!

Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, now!

Alpha Centauri remaster, now!

Myth should get remastered too!

What was I talking about?

Warcraft 3 or 4 on Switch please.

I wasn't trying to be snarky. The Switch gets a lot of guff for "only having games I got ten years ago in a Steam sale" or somesuch. But those ports and remasters are profitable. I don't personally have much interest in most of them, but it seems to be a smart idea to release them.

And I would buy the sh*t out of XCOM and Battletech on Switch.

I'd love for SpaceChem to be ported over to the Switch.

*Legion* wrote:

Alpha Centauri remaster, now!

Oh god. Please.

Dyni wrote:
Shadout wrote:

Just to clarify, I dont think it's a bad idea at all, quite the opposite. I merely want some of the Wii/U games I never got to play...

Well, as one of the 12 people that bought a Wii U, I'm much happier with the influx of smaller PC games. So many of them are perfectly suited to the smaller screen. But you know, both would be cool too.

I'm in this boat too. I'm glad people who didn't have a Wii U get to play all these really good games I was always getting told didn't exist on that system. But my personal excitement level is real low at the prospect of being able to pay full price again to replay them. Fortunately, I can always pick up those indie ports and actually play them this time.

You know, it's almost like what I really need is a thing with the switch's form factor, but is a PC.

You know, it's almost like what I really need is a thing with the switch's form factor, but is a PC.

I recently learned that a company called GPD makes things like this. GPD Win 2 I think is the latest gaming focused one.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I wasn't trying to be snarky.

I didn't mean so in a serious way. Just teasing.

I had a dream last night that there was this really boring event being streamed and the talking heads of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo were invited to each have a keynote moment. Reggie comes on, says his typical stuff, and then says "And one more thing...". All the screens light up with explosions, the Metroid Screw-Attack symbol, and just as everyone's getting hyped up a 3D Rendered Samus, looking more Federation Force than Samus Returns, pops on screen. "Okay, I can deal with that," I think. Then the gameplay demonstrated is that of a multiplayer game. Four groups of three brawlers duke it out in their own little chambers, and the winner of each of those four groups then has to competitively speed run and boss rush through a simplified Zebes to see who can win. And that's the game. No trickery like Federation Force's multiplayer mode being a tease. Just that game.

"Well that's disappointing" I say.

Then I woke up and realized Clock is right and I got issues.

LeapingGnome wrote:
You know, it's almost like what I really need is a thing with the switch's form factor, but is a PC.

I recently learned that a company called GPD makes things like this. GPD Win 2 I think is the latest gaming focused one.

All pirated, probably, as Chinese consoles usually are (ie. Solja Boy).

Not sure what you mean. It is hardware that runs Windows. It doesn’t include games as far as I know. It is just a mini pc.

LeapingGnome wrote:

Not sure what you mean. It is hardware that runs Windows. It doesn’t include games as far as I know. It is just a mini pc.

Yeah GPD is legit. They are just trying to perfect a handheld gaming pc. I had the first one and it was ok. It didn’t really feel all that good to actually hold and game on.

Razer’s gaming tablet with the joystick case was pretty good. Sorta a jumbo sized Switch. But battery life sucked and it was kinda big.

LeapingGnome wrote:

Not sure what you mean. It is hardware that runs Windows. It doesn’t include games as far as I know. It is just a mini pc.

A lot of the consoles come installed with emulators. Considering their campaign page is showing it running PS2 and Wii games I kinda figured it was aiming at the same crowd who would buy the consoles. Apparently not!

Image & Form put up a video with some new gameplay footage and info regarding SteamWorld Quest. The early parts of the video basically give the sense that its current state is roughly 20 hours in length, plus or minus based on personal habits and completionism I'm assuming. Otherwise they largely discuss very broad details of when it came into development.

There's a "mini-FAQ" that begins here, but to sum up some of the major points:

  • It's coming to Nintendo Switch first, other platforms later.
  • "Is it a JRPG?" They seem to stumble on this and the question of the card game mechanics. Generally it's more comparable to a JRPG, and it's a JRPG with card-game mechanics, not a card game with JRPG mechanics.
  • No multiplayer.
  • No day one DLC, no loot boxes or micro-transactions.
  • There "might be" more than three playable characters. It sounded as if, yes, there are, but they want to play coy.
  • Each character has their own deck of cards.

From the sound of things, it sounds like the system is comparable to how Children of Zodiarcs implements cards. It's a tactical RPG in the style of FFTactics, but with cards to determine your abilities. Each character has their own deck and you can customize which cards are in that deck. Typically I am not a fan of card game mechanics for video games, but it worked interestingly in Children of Zodiarcs so I'm down for it here.

Children of Zodiarcs? I...i don't remember ever hearing of this. Granted I had a baby when it came and, oh, also had mono.

Children of the Zodiarcs was surprisingly short and linear. But, I enjoyed it for the time I played it. I would recommend it if you want a neat tactics game.

Hollow Knight developer Team Cherry posted this today: "First look at Hornet's new adventure coming this Valentine's Day, February 14th!"

Just spitballing here, but that seems like a good highlight for a Nintendo Direct. So new Nintendo Direct on the 14th?

Is the New Super Mario Brothers U Deluxe worth picking up if I'm feeling like a traditional mario game?
I never played the Wii U versions, since I didn't own a Wii/U.

I say yes, absolutely; fed says no, never. One of us is right, and one of us is fed.

Seriously, it's a wonderful 2D Mario games. All right-thinking people agree.

I eventually hung with it, but I don't prefer the "New" art style and I hope we get a Mario 4 someday.

DSGamer wrote:

I eventually hung with it, but I don't prefer the "New" art style and I hope we get a Mario 4 someday.

It’s called Super Mario World.

steinkrug wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

I eventually hung with it, but I don't prefer the "New" art style and I hope we get a Mario 4 someday.

It’s called Super Mario World.

It's true. Check out that box art:

IMAGE(https://www.retrogamecases.com/wp-content/uploads/sfc_supermarioworld_front.png)

Sorry. Super Mario 5, then.

DSGamer wrote:

Sorry. Super Mario 5, then.

We're gonna at this a while, aren't we?

Jonman wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Sorry. Super Mario 5, then.

We're gonna at this a while, aren't we? :wink:

New doesn’t count. I mean one that still looks like a cartoon.

DSGamer wrote:

Sorry. Super Mario 5, then.

That's what they should have called the first "New" game on the DS. It's certainly worthy of the lineage. And would have avoided a LOT of confusion in the years since.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

One really, really interesting thing from their financial release today is also this: Between April 1 and Dec 31 of 2018, 88% of their sales were from Switch hardware and software, 3% were from smart phone games, and the remainder was split almost evenly between 3DS and Other (amiibo/Virtual Console/Wii U) sales. The Switch pretty much now is Nintendo's entire business.

Following this story a little further—because surely I'm not the only one left who loves the business side of Nintendo—software sales for 3DS are looking grim. The 3DS port of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story released recently, and the numbers from Japan, at least, are dismal: it's outsold Mario's Tennis on Virtual Boy, but only just. We don't know what the global numbers look like yet, but I wouldn't expect them to be strong. For comparison sake, the three previous Mario & Luigi games on the 3DS (Dream Team, Paper Jam, and a remake of Superstar Saga) all seem to have cleared at least a million units, with Dream Team getting well past two million.

Yo-kai Watch 3 released a couple days ago, and Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn comes out next month, and then that's it for first-party 3DS releases, and they may be releasing too late to make much money. Persona Q2 in June looks like it'll be the console's last major release, so hopefully Atlus has low expectations for sales performance.

It's been a long time since Nintendo was dependent on the success or failure of only one hardware platform. We'll see if that makes them more aggressive in their efforts to hit their sales targets or if the unified platform for software development begins to see results. As it is, the rate of first-party releases for the Switch doesn't seem to be much higher than in previous years, despite all those 3DS teams being freed up.

DSGamer wrote:
Jonman wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Sorry. Super Mario 5, then.

We're gonna at this a while, aren't we? :wink:

New doesn’t count. I mean one that still looks like a cartoon.

Man, check out those super realistic, not cartoony graphics they're sporting for Mario games these days. I can't even.

IMAGE(http://www.d20crit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/NSMBU.jpg)