Football Manager Series Catch-All

So, I finally noticed that FM updates the ads on the hoardings in real-time. And somehow, only in sports games, do I consider that appropriate realism.

Interesting post on the FM subreddit today

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I haven't played FM21 or FM22 but it seems to match my experience. Thr last FM I played had a match engine, transfer/contract system, and tactics better than ever but graphically wasn't pleasing to the eye.

According to this comment, SI went from licensing facegen and stadium graphics to doing everything in-house which would explain a lot, especially since they're using the faces for the match engine as the player photos while pre-FM16 the match engine figurines were basic and the photos a completely separate graphic.

I don't think the series needs to be photo-realistic and competing with FIFA graphically, but it should at least be pleasant to look at.

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Please tell me that it doesn't play "The Champions League Anthem" before each CL game....

If it does, I'm hoping someone can mod in the hateful thing being booed at the Etihad.

Still won't stop me renaming the Europa League to the "Christ, you weren't even good enough to get into the CL proper" and that other bit of nonsense to being the "Even more pointless UEFA cash grab Cup"

Man completes a century of seasons in FM, posts results.

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There's just so much to unpack here.

There are probably a few Rangers fans slightly concerned by that outcome - and some Celtic fans pleasantly surprised, judging by the CL results.

Sevilla and Valencia's title counts look a little...unlikely, although not as much as WBA and 'Nastic Tarragona.

And no Barcelona or Liverpool ?

We are officially in FM silly season, as they're unveiling the new features for FM 23.

Frankly, all I've seen is some minor match engine improvements and a bunch of stuff that's not gonna make a meaningful difference to gameplay.

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Like, that is going to mean literally nothing in terms of the actual game.

Oh, and it's got the official UEFA music, a thing I cannot believe anyone cares about when pretty much anyone playing this game is probably capable of typing "Champions League anthem" into YouTube.

Despite all of that, have I already preordered it and am looking forward to playing FM 23.

Roke wrote:

Interesting post on the FM subreddit today

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I haven't played FM21 or FM22 but it seems to match my experience. Thr last FM I played had a match engine, transfer/contract system, and tactics better than ever but graphically wasn't pleasing to the eye.

According to this comment, SI went from licensing facegen and stadium graphics to doing everything in-house which would explain a lot, especially since they're using the faces for the match engine as the player photos while pre-FM16 the match engine figurines were basic and the photos a completely separate graphic.

I don't think the series needs to be photo-realistic and competing with FIFA graphically, but it should at least be pleasant to look at.

Popular FM Streamer Says The Thing About FM Graphics

Personally, I think that the graphics are a complete irrelevance - the first thing I do on the match screen is switch it to 2-d. Facepacks etc, I'm still using 2018 ones because I can just copy the folders over.

While I generally am skeptical about gamer rage, I have to say, there is nothing about FM 23 that has me feeling "MUST BUY DAY 1" vibes. A fair number of the criticisms I'm hearing appear to be valid, and for the first time in years, I'm approaching this FM like "Y'know what, lemme wait a few patches and grab it in January or something, cuz I'm fine with 22 right now."

That, and I agree with Zealand's hot-take: Yearly releases are bad for sports games, or you have to accept that largely what you're going to get is essentially a big DLC every year. I can't think of a sports game I don't think would be much better if every full release came every other year, or even every 3.

The only other series that comes out as regularly as this is probably Call of Duty, and Activision has entire separate developers alternating years on releases.

But yeah, I will get FM 23... but as of this moment, I don't feel the need to get it on release day. Great, but let's wait a month or two until a bunch of mods and patches have been made.

Luckily FM23 is on Gamepass, so I can try it out for free, but I've actually gone back to FM14, trying to find the sweetspot between fairly recent UI and not having to answer press conference questions about tweets about fan reactions that might upset my team's alternate secondary social group.

I'm feeling very "Finish making Notts County kings of Europe" before I upgrade.

Also, all my facepacks/kitpacks are already installed here and I don't wanna reinstall them.

Started a new game at St. Pauli. Almost finished my second season, and I already hate Hamburg with the fire of 1,000 suns.

Meanwhile:

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Humiliated to admit, despite my attempts to be a skeptic, the UEFA competition integrations are really cool.

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Luckily FM23 is on Gamepass, so I can try it out for free, but I've actually gone back to FM14, trying to find the sweetspot between fairly recent UI and not having to answer press conference questions about tweets about fan reactions that might upset my team's alternate secondary social group.

Would it be 2014, or the 2013 version that hit the sweet spot?

FM update:

Norwich's Adam Idah, holy sh*t.

He's big, strong, and fast, and so far for me, has been Dollar Store Erling Haaland.

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Some input, please., from the FM cognoscenti on here.

I'm going to start a new game, but am stuck. My last start was at Schalke, but I didn't realise they've got more debt than lord knows what, and a squad that was predicted to finish 17th. I wouldn't know whether that happened or not, as I got 10 points out of the first 15 games, and a home defeat to the equally hapless Hertha Berlin saw me escorted from the building.

So, I've come up with a few potentials. but would like a view from elsewhere.
I don't do LLM, so there will be no 'Park to Prem' here, with apologies to Work the Space.

Here's what I've got.
- You Didn't Have To Buy All Of Them...can I make something out of a squad built by someone who had no idea that you can only have 11 players on the pitch at once ? (Chelsea, that is).

- Great Underachievers. There are many of these dotted about, but I'd picked out Valencia, Bayer Leverkusen or Sunderland. This time last year I could have picked Newcastle, but probably not now.

- Shouldn't You Be Bigger ?. Clubs with significant resources and fanbases, who are languishing in the doldrums. Examples would be SV Hamburg, Ipswich Town, Hertha Berlin, Bristol City.

- "To Dream, The Impossible Dream". Things that no one in their right mind believes. Keep Nottm Forest up. Get Plymouth into the Premiership. Get Athletic Bilbao into the top echelon of Spanish football while keeping their Basque-player-only tradition.

I've obviously spent too much time thinking of themes, and not enough time actually playing. Help me !!

For the first one, I'd choose Forest over Chelsea, as they've made a genuinely hilarious number of signings.

For #3, I'd add Deportivo to that list, who are really going through it at the moment.

That said, if I had to pick one for a real change of pace, I'd say something like Athletic Bilbao, or go to a second-tier league (Portugal/Netherlands/etc.) and try and upset the old order (bonus if you can win European silverware).

In response to Pred's pleading, I went for Forest

Having played through preseason, beating low rent Dutch teams I'd only ever heard of because I once did a Feyenoord save and saving just before the opening game (West Ham at home) here's my thoughts.

- Crikey that's a big squad. It's like Chelsea, only full of players that are garbage. Not kidding, I filled a first XI, 15 subs and there were still about 7 players left. And they were all at the club, not loans out.

- I spent most of the 4 weeks on the phone, selling as many as I could. Unless we were going to play a 1-9-0 system, I didn't actually need all of the DMs I had, who were all 2.5 or 3 star, and the sort of player who's appearance in the match day squad would be met with a resounding 'meh'. Looking at you, Jack Colback (Blackburn, 2m) and Harry Arter (Preston, 1m).

- When I wasn't selling players (9, at last count - 2 of those I had to give away), I was looking for actually good players I could get on loan. Rico Lewis (RB) came in from City as I could never stand Serge Aurier, and for some reason Liverpool put Elliott on the loan list, so he's come on board as well as a RM/CM. I've also just found my list of FM23 wonderkids, but I'm saving them til I work out what I really need.

- Only having time for 5 friendlies when you've got a squad the size of an army division is not easy. Thankfully u-21s don't count as part of the 25 man Prem squad, else I'd be in a bit of a pickle. I doubt that I've found my best first XI though...I'm in flippin' trouble if I have.

More dispatches from Nottingham to come. I reckon we can dodge the relegation bullet, but it's not going to be pretty.

Meanwhile, I am at FC Eindhoven, trying to overthrow the Big 3. We're about halfway through Season 3, after we just got promoted.

Our results against PSV/Ajax/Feyenoord?

W 0 - D 0 - L 3

GF 1 GA 13

Of all the useless press conference questions in FM (and there are many), the constant "what about a winter break?" questions in England are so ridiculous because it never happens in-game, so it's just you whining about something that cannot change.

QUEEN'S PARK UPDATE:

It is January 2023, and we are in good shape.

The Scottish Championship is odd. 10 teams, everybody plays everyone else four times. Add in the Scottish Cup, the SPFL Trust Trophy and the Scottish League cup, and there's a LOT of games to play.

And yet! Glasgow's third team is currently in the playoff places, albeit with 29 points after 22 games. But the goal was "fight bravely against relegation," so I am THRILLED with our season thus far. I mean, real-life Queen's Park are literally fighting for promotion to the SPL, so I'm actually notably worse than reality so far.

Year 3 of my Queen's Park save:

We're probably going to get promoted. We're 7 points clear with 7 to play.

But. Scottish Cup 5th round. We draw Rangers. We're playing well, but they're Rangers, and for 20 minutes, they're obliterating us and we're lucky to be down 2-0. Then, from a corner, we scuttle one in and immediately afterward, one of their players scythes down my striker with a two-footed challenge and it's a straight red.

I say "screw it" and tell the team to go for it. And we do, we outplay them, we outshoot them, we out xG them by nearly a full point.

We lose 4-2.

I swear to God, when I slay this beast, I'm going to drink BOTH of their blood.

Since it's on Gamepass, decided to give it ago for the first time in years. Decided to go in nice and easy and picked Wrexham for the riches to even more riches story. Still think feature creep has made it abit over the top, but so far at least my team hasn't all decided to be rubbish because I didn't wish a player's dog happy birthday or something.

Don't think Yaya Toure is in the current player database, so you should be safe.

Absolutely no one wants to see this.

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So if Edin Terzic can't stop them, then I will. It's almost like a parallel world, where the 'Agueroooooo' fizzles out and the old hierarchy squashes any opposition (I was flicking between both games on TV).

Well not on my watch. In this Fm23 game, Die Schwarzgelben won't be curled up on the pitch after the last game of the season (the astute amongst you will note that this can be read in any number of ways..).

So let's go BVB - we've got some giants to slay.

I unfortuely gave up, just too time consuming for me these days.

Tell you what - full props to Terzic for getting this team to 2nd. They are garbage, bar 2 or 3.

I'm currently faced with a CD pairing of Emre Can (yes, the Liverpool one), who's like a Swiss Army knife in that he can play poorly in a variety of positions, and Niklas Sule, who makes Harry Maguire look like Franco Baresi.

I'm seriously debating cashing Bellingham in now. Wonder if City will go for a swap with Cancelo, Laporte and Gundog ?

Year 6 of Queen's Park:

I hate Celtic. So much.

We have finished 2nd the last two seasons in a row, and in the last two seasons, were never closer than 9 points behind. I'd have more luck fighting a wheat thresher in real life.

On the upside, we did win the Scottish Cup last season (Celtic got knocked out). And we're even in Europe, although thus far we have not come close to the Champions League group stage. We did make the Europa League knockouts last year (and were IMMEDIATELY dumped out by Monaco.)