Football Manager Series Catch-All

Prederick wrote:

There's no Peter Lim/Oyston Family/Mike Ashley in FM, which I understand, because that might be a little too realistic.

Yes, SI Games takes care not to denigrate real people in the game, etc., so a lot of the shenanigans you could put in via events would have to occur with newgens or fictional databases.

We're a few weeks in now, and this is still my favorite FM.

I think the only tweak I would make, at this point, is that FM could afford to take a look at things like FIFA's dynamic potential for their players. I don't think it should be a regular occurrence that you can take a Conference National squad and through good results and training make them into Real Madrid, but simultaneously, even after his great 2011-2012 season for Fleetwood Town, would anyone have bought Jamie Vardy, much less expected him to turn into Jamie Vardy?

I know his case is exceedingly rare these days, clubs don't just whiff on big-time talents anymore, there's too much scouting, but it still can sometimes happen.

I don't know how hard of a cap on development a player's Potential Ability puts on them in FM, but there should be the chance for players, some players, to grow well beyond what scouts may have originally thought they were capable of. It'd add in even more importance to mentality and training, while giving scouting some much-needed fudgery, as right now, a good scout is frankly too good at telling you not only how good a player is, but how good he's going to be.

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god I love this game

Somewhere a Sun journalist's brain (sic) is working overtime.

I'd heard a few streamers mention that ManU was overpowered in FM 21, and I just checked where they are in my current save...

They're 26-1-0 with a +51 GD.

So.... yeah! A little overpowered!

Gosh, the player ratings bug is frustrating. I was really loving this edition until the last update. I'm usually one to shake off bugs, but this one is disappointing.

What is the player ratings bug?

Mr Bismarck wrote:

What is the player ratings bug?

All player ratings are significantly too low. More so defenders than others, and more so fullbacks than other defenders. It's something they messed up the tracking of in the latest update.

It might not seem like much, but it's connected to value, development, morale, manager evaluation, etc., and it makes it hard to know how your players are performing.

Yippee! Patch in the Steam queue to address the player ratings things (and maybe a few other things).

Prederick wrote:

We're a few weeks in now, and this is still my favorite FM.

Is it much better than FM 20? I got into FM 20 a bit recently (taking Leyton Orient to Premier League, thank you for asking) after I realised I had a free copy from Epic, now contemplating if I should check out FM 21. And, mind you, my last long FM game before that was 2014, I think.

(Also, hey all, it's been a while!)

It's genuinely the on-field stuff. The difference between FM 20 and this feels so vast.

UCRC wrote:
Prederick wrote:

We're a few weeks in now, and this is still my favorite FM.

Is it much better than FM 20? I got into FM 20 a bit recently (taking Leyton Orient to Premier League, thank you for asking) after I realised I had a free copy from Epic, now contemplating if I should check out FM 21. And, mind you, my last long FM game before that was 2014, I think.

(Also, hey all, it's been a while!)

Dude, how have you been?! So good to see you!

I've been dabbling in FM2020 too, at my usual glacial pace (26h in, on Matchday 9 of season 1) with Anderlecht. I really missed having 12 shots on goal against 2, and drawing 1-1

Hey, I've been great! We should catch up over a Civ game at some point.

I think I discovered the easiest way to break the game in FM20 LLM: dumping all points into Motivating. (I also cheated and went for a manager experience lvl with a lot of skill points.) Seems like you can boost squad morale so high that tactics and ability become a bit less relevant. Three seasons in a row I went on runs where I won 10+ games in a row. The only issue is that when the bubble bursts it's hard to turn it around.

Not sure if I'm ready for FM21 yet, there's still lots of basics I'm learning about FM20. So many new systems.

Nice to see you again, UCRC !

I think that SI have fixed the ratings bug, particularly around the full backs which seemed to be the main issue. In my latest game, my RB was man of the match for 3 games in succession - which may mean he was great or the other players weren't...

I did start this game after the patch dropped, so I can't say whether it impacts upon ongoing games.

Dreamt last night about me starting a Spanish 3rd tier FM game. Distinctly remember thinking "UCRC is back" and " I should put all my points into Motivation"

So that's weird.

Oh hey! And actually, I do have a Spanish 3rd tier experience (hmm, maybe I shared this one before) -- in my long-standing FM 2014 game early on I got into role-playing a new Pep Guardiola, trying to get 70% possession in every game etc. My first job was caretaker in France, the second job was Southampton taking a punt. I won the League Cup in first season but got fired in the summer after clashing with the board re low transfer budget. Then Malaga hired me (that was back when Malaga was owned by sheiks). Half a season of tiki-taka and sitting at mid table, got fired. Then I thought, why not try the first club that offers me a job? Three months at a random team in Spanish 3rd division (turns out tiki-taka is not a thing where everyone has Technique < 10) and not only I got fired, but my reputation tanked so badly, that I couldn't get a job with a professional club for another 2 full seasons, until Coventry went bankrupt and they needed a caretaker manager on a low salary who would oversee selling all players. Up till that point I didn't even know that you can tank so badly in FM that no clubs will want to take you.

I gave up on tiki taka after that.

A curious first:

So it's 2023 in my new Red Star Paris game, and we're trying to survive our first season in Ligue 1. We're punching WELL above our weight, but our strikers have been fairly disappointing, and I'm scouring for a new one when I come across....

.......Cristiano Ronaldo? On a free?

Apparently, the now 37-year-old Ronaldo was let go on a free, and hadn't been signed by anyone. There was zero interest in his services!

So I took a punt, he asked for the largest salary at the club, but one I could afford, and lo and behold, my starting striker is now Cristiano f**king Ronaldo.