Help me build my PC 2017 Catch All

Rainsmercy wrote:

Thoughts on my parts list? I bought this 1 tb M2 SSD drive already as it was on sale for $124 and I had a $25 amazon gift card to use.

Man I'm jealous, if I had more desk space that's the case I'd have gotten.

Veloxi wrote:
Rainsmercy wrote:

Thoughts on my parts list? I bought this 1 tb M2 SSD drive already as it was on sale for $124 and I had a $25 amazon gift card to use.

Man I'm jealous, if I had more desk space that's the case I'd have gotten.

Well with the Corsair Air 540, your desk actually goes inside the case.

I moved my gaming system back into the 540 Air I have a while back. Temperatures dropped about 10C on my videocard and 8C on my CPU.

Sold the Fractal Design Meshify C I was using before.

Rainsmercy wrote:

The only thing I worry about with that case is I have 2 cats and 2 dogs who shed to some degree.

If you're putting it down near the floor you'll want to clean the front intake filters somewhat often, those front fans pull a lot of air. It's pretty easy to get off and blow out or vacuum clean though.

Mine's up on my desk now and I only do it every two or three months though. Seems to work out fine.

Thin_J wrote:

I moved my gaming system back into the 540 Air I have a while back. Temperatures dropped about 10C on my videocard and 8C on my CPU.

Sold the Fractal Design Meshify C I was using before.

Rainsmercy wrote:

The only thing I worry about with that case is I have 2 cats and 2 dogs who shed to some degree.

If you're putting it down near the floor you'll want to clean the front intake filters somewhat often, those front fans pull a lot of air. It's pretty easy to get off and blow out or vacuum clean though.

Mine's up on my desk now and I only do it every two or three months though. Seems to work out fine.

Cool, thanks!

Rainsmercy wrote:

The only thing I worry about with that case is I have 2 cats and 2 dogs who shed to some degree.

I have two cats. Hasn't been an issue. There are some lint protectors on the intake areas that catch what does come about. I clean them occasionally.

Refurbished EVGA GTX 1060 6GB on sale for $160.

ETA: Oops, guess it's sold out. I'd've probably gone with an RX 580 8GB anyway for like $20-30 more but still.

vlox_km wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

What would be the best video card I could get for under $100 these days (used is fine)? My nephew's birthday is coming up and I am looking to add one to the $500 build I did for him for Christmas to replace the Ryzen 2400G graphics he is using right now.

LeapingGnome, I posted a GTX680 I'm selling in the trading thread, since I just upgraded a little while ago. Hasn't been used for mining!

I got it on here a few years ago. Let me know if you're interested.

Sorry vlox, I just saw this. Thanks for offering but I am hoping to eek out a bit more performance for him since I can go up to $100. I hope you were able to sell yours!

Yeah no worries. Haven't sold it yet, but o problem.

*Legion* wrote:
Veloxi wrote:
Rainsmercy wrote:

Thoughts on my parts list? I bought this 1 tb M2 SSD drive already as it was on sale for $124 and I had a $25 amazon gift card to use.

Man I'm jealous, if I had more desk space that's the case I'd have gotten.

Well with the Corsair Air 540, your desk actually goes inside the case.

Yeah, it's a monster, but so nice to work in. It was my first PC build that doesn't look like cable trash. I came up with a pretty good solution on where to put the case. I got an Ikea Oddvald table leg for one end of my desk and modified it by re-drilling the holes for 1 leg set and making a shelf for the case to sit on. Works well enough, and I can still open my optical drive. Access to the back can be a bit awkward, but easier than a cabinet with sides, for sure.

EDIT:

Here's a pic I took of it if anyone cares.

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What is this "Op-tickle drive" of which you speak?

WipEout wrote:

What is this "Op-tickle drive" of which you speak?

It's what I use to take my media from those round discs to my computer and make sure I get the audio and visual quality level I want. Also, the only way to get a cupholder installed on your desktop computer.

Let's be honest, we're all in here talking about building desktop PC's like it's some sort of normal thing people do these days. We're just like drivers who only drive manual transmission cars.

I see it much more like the guys that dump all their disposable income ruining a Civic.

I only drive manual cars if I can help it.

My PC parts arrive Monday, other than the case which came yesterday and the CPU and motherboard I picked up last week. I wanted a Fractal Design Define S case but had waffled and accidentally just chose the "buy" button on a Corsair Carbide 200R. Eh. Not dissatisfied enough to send it back and order the other, so the 200R it is.

muraii wrote:

I only drive manual cars if I can help it.

I didn't even know we had sand, yet here we have a line in it!

Any opinions on the following for video cards:
-1660 ti or stick with 1060/1070
-single fan or 2 fan
-manufacturers to stay away from

Just upgraded to a 1660 TI and a 1440P monitor, and it's a great combo. But I can't compare to the 10X0. What I've seen, though, is that the latter should be fine if you're staying with 1080P. It's said the 1660 TI is the best value currently for 1440P. (And it does well for me, although I'm fine with 30fps for many games.)

Note that the new monitors won't do DVI, so if your system is older, you might have to upgrade to a DP or HDMI card at the same time.

Building a new system, its why I asked

I think you could do a G-Sync 1080P vid card and a good monitor for about $500 or less. It'll be about a thousand for a G-Sync 1440P and 1660 TI, is my experience. Just a thought. Hope it helps.

About a year ago, someone (maybe Legion?) posted recommended nvidia control panel settings for g-sync monitors.

Had some driver issues so had to do a clean install (I know I should probably do it all the time) but didn't write those settings down, so now I'm trying to remember.

I believe it was actually v-sync on in the 3d control panel, even though application's vsync is always set to off. can anyone recall what those settings are?

Apparently, it should be G-Sync on, V-Sync on, with frame rate limit set to 140fps (or 141, some say). This keeps an important time variance sync on in G-Sync, which is turned off when V-Sync is turned off. The tradeoff is that your frame rate will never go past the limit you set. Which is probably not a problem, since if it goes past 144fps (for a 144 monitor) then input lag will set it as G-Sync turns off at that point.

Pretty much that. G-Sync on, V-Sync on in NVIDIA control panel (V-Sync *off* in in-game settings), and a frame limiter (preferably RTSS) set below your max refresh, 140-142 for a 144hz monitor.

Nvidia is dropping the GTX 1660 and at MSRP of $220 it’ seems like a steal compared to the GTX 1060 and still a great buy compared to the RX 580/590.

AMD provided a modicum of competition and now NVIDIA must crush it.

I'm wondering if spending on the order of $30 less for a good RX 580 8GB would still be the right call. Of course, I'll buy it and then AMD'll shave another $15 off the next day, but que será será.

I just upgraded my 970 to a 1660 TI, and no regerts.

Robear wrote:

I just upgraded my 970 to a 1660 TI, and no regerts.

That is pretty much what I have in mind, going from my 970 GTX to the 1660 ti.

I went from a 1080P IPS to a 1440P G-Sync IPS - Okay, I splurged in that regard - and the 1660 TI does 1440P to a T. The extra oomph in the card covers the additional 45% area of the monitor, so essentially, you're going to see a bit better than 970 at 1080P performance but at 2560x1440 instead of 1920x1080. That's how I think of it.

I stuck with the IPS technology because it's got fantastic color and dark display, and G-Sync because I could, hedging my bets that it can help prevent screen tearing in moving to 145Hz. But you could go with a non-IPS, non-G-Sync and get great results, according to numerous reviews I read. That would save a few hundred on the monitor.

If you're going to stay with 1080P, on the other hand, don't bother with the TI version. Unless you are thinking of an eventual upgrade. The regular 1660 will run nearly everything at 1080P amazingly, again according to reviews.

cartoonin wrote:
Robear wrote:

I just upgraded my 970 to a 1660 TI, and no regerts.

That is pretty much what I have in mind, going from my 970 GTX to the 1660 ti. :)

I'm in the same boat. I'm running a GTX 970 out a system Robear used to have, and it was an incredible upgrade from my R9 270X. But at the beginning of the year I'd kind of made up my mind that I wanted a current gen card in my main system, and once I upgrade I'll probably drop the 970 in my youngest son's machine. His system is a Core2Quad with a HD 6670, so I'm thinking about replacing the CPU/MB/RAM as well. The board is in rough shape with some blown caps, so I don't expect it to keep chugging along for too much longer.

*Legion* wrote:

AMD provided a modicum of competition and now NVIDIA must crush it.

This is pretty much spot on. In the $200-$400 range, before the 1660 and 1660Ti, your options were the 1060 vs the 580 on the lower end ($180-$250), with the RX 590 pretty much by itself in the $250-$350 range, with the 1070 picking up after that. Now, the 1660 easily beats out the 1060/RX580, and the 1660 Ti beats out the RX 590. It's hard not to think of this as a targeted attack. Not that I'm complaining.

I fully intend to put a 1660 Ti in this system in the next few months, just need to pay off some stuff and save up a bit.

I currently have a 980 4 gb as my daily driver, do I want the upgrade to a 1660 Ti? I am still only gaming at 1080p (albeit 144hz)... Am I just being caught up in the hype train? I'm seeing cards around ~400 CAD and its REALLY hard to resist right now (rest of rig is 5820k/32 ram, so no need for other upgrades at present).

The 1660 is for maxing out gaming on a 1080P, and the TI is for very good gaming on 1440P. If you are happy with the 980 on 1080P, a TI upgrade will be overkill. You will be able to max out everything at 1080P, but honestly I don't think that will be much visual change from a 980.

That's my take.