garion333 wrote:Petty at least showed he could throw to people. If not for his injury I think they may have given him a shot.
Oh I agree that you play Petty if you can if for no other reason than there's no future in Josh McCown.
Of course, the young QB they YOLO start ought to be the one they recently spent a 2nd round pick on, but the Hack is still unplayable.
Man, I'm glad I don't root for a team that would waste a second-round pick like that.
Jets have signed S Armageddon Draughn and I can't believe I'm struggling to word a joke here.
*Legion* wrote:garion333 wrote:Petty at least showed he could throw to people. If not for his injury I think they may have given him a shot.
Oh I agree that you play Petty if you can if for no other reason than there's no future in Josh McCown.
Of course, the young QB they YOLO start ought to be the one they recently spent a 2nd round pick on, but the Hack is still unplayable.
Man, I'm glad I don't root for a team that would waste a second-round pick like that.
I shot water thru my nose when I read that. Bravo sir, bravo.
So...Matthew Stafford's now the highest paid player in NFL history. Let that sink in for a moment.
So...Matthew Stafford's now the highest paid player in NFL history. Let that sink in for a moment.
Somewhere, Kirk Cousins, Marcus Mariota, and Jameis Winston get together and high-five.
This is just how the cap era works. I'm glad the Lions are paying him. There are no better options for them to just plug in to that spot, and it's way better than watching a circus like the one going on in Washington with Cousins.
I think it stinks of the Joe Flacco deal and we see how well that has worked out.
I think fans of teams with COMPETENT QB play have no idea what it is like languishing at the bottom with BAD QB play.
Re-sign your competent QBs folks!
I have never played Fantasy Football, but I find it ironic that the most underpaid impact players are consistently drafted way higher than the most overpaid ones.
Running backs are routinely taken in the first three rounds and they are woefully underpaid for their impact.
Whereas QB's (even horrid ones) are way overpaid and often drop to round 8.
I have never played Fantasy Football, but I find it ironic that the most underpaid impact players are consistently drafted way higher than the most overpaid ones.
Running backs are routinely taken in the first three rounds and they are woefully underpaid for their impact.
Whereas QB's (even horrid ones) are way overpaid and often drop to round 8.
Fantasy Football is not the NFL and there are a million holes I can punch through your post. 
I think fans of teams with COMPETENT QB play have no idea what it is like languishing at the bottom with BAD QB play.
Re-sign your competent QBs folks!
Truth.
Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Carson Palmer, Andrew Luck, Alex Smith.
9 of the 32 starting QBs in the NFL were #1 overall draft picks.
Finding a QB who is at least competent is very difficult. Finding a decent RB is not.
UpToIsomorphism wrote:DeShone Kiser wrote:I have Tom Brady’s brain in Cam Newton’s body
So he's either going to be a great QB or a serial killer, depending on context.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate this post.
Full details on Stafford's contract: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-l...
At first glance it appears he raked them over the coals.
Rat Boy wrote:So...Matthew Stafford's now the highest paid player in NFL history. Let that sink in for a moment.
Somewhere, Kirk Cousins, Marcus Mariota, and Jameis Winston get together and high-five.
I think Aaron Rodgers is shopping for a truck large enough to hold the mountain of cash that he's going to have when he pulls away from the front office at Lombardi Ave.
Once again, "highest paid player in NFL history" == "established starting quarterback who most recently signed a new contract".
Each deal adds just a tiny amount of extra money in order to put it over the top. Flacco's deal was 6 years, $120.6 million. Why the .6? Because Drew Brees had signed 5 years, $100 million ($20 mil avg a year) the year before, and the .6 made Flacco's average $20.1 mil a year.
Derek Carr's contract was for $125,025,000 over 5 years, that extra $25k just putting it above the $25 mil mark.
Initial reports put Stafford's deal at $27 mil a year, but it's actually $25.25 mil a year when you take 2017 into account (accounting tricks at play here).
Stolen from Twitter--Lions QBs This Millennium:
Charlie Batch
Stoney Case
Detmer
McMahon
Harrington
Garcia
Kitna
Orlovsky
Culpepper
Shaun Hill
Stanton
Stafford
If you extended that list out through the 60s Stafford would still look like a golden god relative to his franchise peer group. Between how the cap will grow over the life of this deal, what other QBs will start getting, and what he means to this team, the analysis I'm seeing from people who understand the crazy intricacies of cap mathematics (edit: of which I am most assuredly not one) is the Lions front office did just fine.
Boo hoo to the poor Lions fans...
Boo hoo to the poor Lions fans...
That picture is like four years old. It doesn't even cover the trainwrecks that were Manziel and RG3.
Cleveland, proving it could always be worse since 1796.
The question now is will it be only two or as many as four new names on the list this year.
I'll put the line at 2.5 (remember one of those names is still on the roster), and be heavily tempted by the over.
I see it going this way
Osweiler
Kizer
Kessler
Kaepernick
Irony being that Colin will be the third K.
Kizer is already the starter so you can drop the Osweiler. He's heading out the door.
Browns are supposedly shopping Oz, Joe Haden, and Cam Erving.
So much for Erving replacing Alex Mack.
Who does Oz make sense for at this point? (NO, NOT JACKSONVILLE!) Maybe a team that has an established starter but no obvious "QB of the future" candidate? Or a team that needs someone, anyone with starter experience to be a backup?
I might have an option there: Indianapolis. With Luck down, the QB depth chart is Scott Tolzien, Stephen Morris, and UDFA Philip Walker, who OurLads doesn't even have a picture for. That's definitely a situation The Oz might have a chance at competing in.
Shit, that means the Browns are likely to get a 1st for Oz.
Haden isn't likely to happen based on his (injured) season last year.
Erving...massive failure. He's terrible everywhere along the line.
Is Joe Haden still good? I haven't watched a Browns game in a few years.
Cian Fahey did his tier list/QB ranks prior to the season. Not shockingly, Josh McCown is #33 out of 33. Who is #32, right behind him, and two spots ahead of Jared Goff?
Even during the perceived peak of his career, Blake Bortles was a terrible quarterback. The 35 touchdowns he threw in 2015 were a reflection of the quality of Allen Robinson and Allen Hurns rather than his play. Bortles had the 31st-best accuracy percentage that season, he ranked one spot behind Johnny Manziel and one spot ahead of Nick Foles. 30 of his 606 attempts that season should have been intercepted, an interceptable pass rate of 4.95 percent, the sixth-worst rate for any quarterback. The only quarterbacks below him were an injured Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer, a soon-to-be-retired Peyton Manning, Johnny Manziel and Ryan Fitzpatrick. In 2016 his accuracy percentage dropped a couple more percentage points and his interceptable pass number rose to 33. 5.28 percent of Bortles’ passes should have been intercepted last year, 26 quarterbacks took care of the ball better than he did. A hugely inaccurate quarterback who can’t take care of the ball is not a good quarterback, but that’s only the beginning with Bortles.Height is something many NFL coaches and evaluators emphasize. It’s why Brock Osweiler can get $72 million without ever showing any ability to play the position adequately. Bortles is one of those quarterbacks who was overvalued during the draft because of how he looked rather than how he played. Being 6’5” allows him to see over the line of scrimmage easily. The problem is he doesn’t know what he’s looking at. Bortles can’t diagnose Cover-2 and doesn’t know how to attack Cover-3. He constantly stares down his first read even when it’s covered from the start of the play. Rather than taking his eyes away to locate another receiver, he will force the ball into coverage or drop his eyes to run himself into pressure. 20 of Bortles’ sacks in 2015 came when he missed an open receiver to run into a defender, no other quarterback had more than 13. In 2016, Bortles was responsible for 32.35 percent of his sacks, only six quarterbacks had a higher rate.
The Jaguars spent their offseason trying to build a supporting cast that would make Bortles’ play less impactful. For many reasons, that was a misguided approach but even if none of Bortles’ technical and mental issues existed, one fatal flaw would still have existed. Complementing a run-first offense on a defense-oriented team requires big plays from the passing game. Allen Robinson can get open deep. Allen Hurns can get open deep. Even Marqise Lee could get open deep. Blake Bortles can’t throw deep. The average quarterback was accurate on 41.47 percent of their deep passes last year, Brock Osweiler was accurate on 29.82 percent, Jared Goff 26.67 percent. Blake Bortles? Blake Bortles was accurate on 22.41 percent of his deep throws.
Did you know?
Blake Bortles threw 58 screens last year, only six quarterbacks threw more. He threw a screen on 9.28 percent of his attempts, 15th highest in the league, but gained 10.09 percent of his yards on screens, 10th highest in the league.
Cripes, Browns cut Joe Haden. Salary dump!
Cripes, Browns cut Joe Haden. Salary dump!
Feeding frenzy for an oft-injured CB on the way?
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