The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread

Where ford Pyre fit into all this?

Mixolyde wrote:
pandasuit wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Sports games have been dead for 15 years.

Can we just stop calling them "sports games" now and move to the more accurate description of "sports-themed games"? kthxbye

Sports-likes.

And the fictional sports games like Rocket League can be sports-lites.

I think of Rocket League or a racing game as being a lot closer to playing a sport than a sports themed game like FIFA (or Madden or whatever) because I’m much more closely directing the physical action that is being simulated. My motions are more tied to physical actions in a physics simulation.

FIFI is themed to look like a real sport but that does not make it feel anything like a real sport.

In FIFA if I want to dribble I move a stick and the game does all the work of moving my character’s feet to touch and keep control of the ball. If I want to shoot I press the shoot button and the rest is automatic. I have some controls to modify those actions by varying distance from the ball and attributes of my shot but I’m not really interacting with physics at all and it feels like I’m very disconnected from the physical action of the sport taking place. I’m not controlling the foot or the leg. It’s more like I’m indicating micro strategies that I want the player to use and the simulation is turning that into physical actions in the game. I’m not even the brain of the character. I’m more like a coach flying above him and yelling down instructions.

In contrast I’ve always felt Rocket League is a lot like directly controlling the foot. Your controller is directly manipulating the angle and momentum of a physical object in a physics simulation.

pandasuit wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:
pandasuit wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Sports games have been dead for 15 years.

Can we just stop calling them "sports games" now and move to the more accurate description of "sports-themed games"? kthxbye

Sports-likes.

And the fictional sports games like Rocket League can be sports-lites.

I think of Rocket League or a racing game as being a lot closer to playing a sport than a sports themed game like FIFA (or Madden or whatever) because I’m much more closely directing the physical action that is being simulated. My motions are more tied to physical actions in a physics simulation.

FIFI is themed to look like a real sport but that does not make it feel anything like a real sport.

In FIFA if I want to dribble I move a stick and the game does all the work of moving my character’s feet to touch and keep control of the ball. If I want to shoot I press the shoot button and the rest is automatic. I have some controls to modify those actions by varying distance from the ball and attributes of my shot but I’m not really interacting with physics at all and it feels like I’m very disconnected from the physical action of the sport taking place. I’m not controlling the foot or the leg. It’s more like I’m indicating micro strategies that I want the player to use and the simulation is turning that into physical actions in the game. I’m not even the brain of the character. I’m more like a coach flying above him and yelling down instructions.

Sounds like somebody's jonesing for the return of the Kinect's motion sensor . . .

Rocket League is best described as an e-sports game. I can’t think of it any other way.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Sounds like somebody's jonesing for the return of the Kinect's motion sensor . . .

HOT TAKE: Microsoft ruined Kinect by trying to force people to use it for unnecessary things and crappy mini-games, but the core concept could have worked in the hands of someone smarter.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Sounds like somebody's jonesing for the return of the Kinect's motion sensor . . .

HOT TAKE: Microsoft ruined Kinect by trying to force people to use it for unnecessary things, but the core concept could have worked in the hands of someone smarter.

The core concept DID work in the hands of smarter developers. Kinect Party by Double Fine and the Just Dance series are damn near perfect in their implementation of Kinect.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Sounds like somebody's jonesing for the return of the Kinect's motion sensor . . .

HOT TAKE: Microsoft ruined Kinect by trying to force people to use it for unnecessary things and crappy mini-games, but the core concept could have worked in the hands of someone smarter.

^ very much this

Hot take: the world is ready for a new production of Phantom of the Opera, produced entirely by young people who have never heard the original 80s synth-and-drum-machine music. Just give 'em the sheet music and libretto and tell 'em to go nuts.

Do you think they would still use Bach’s Toccata and Fugue?

I asked my wife what Phantom of the Opera was. She told me it's a musical. So, it's like Cats? She hasn't saw Cats. How lucky for her. I was forced in Primary School to watch what was a crime again VHS and television.

RnRClown wrote:

I asked my wife what Phantom of the Opera was. She told me it's a musical. So, it's like Cats? She hasn't saw Cats. How lucky for her. I was forced in Primary School to watch what was a crime again VHS and television.

Cats was a prank played by drunk Brits on the rest of the world.

Phantom was a pretty good musical based on a good story

Based on her performances for the Frozen films, Idina Menzel is not a good singer.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

Based on her performances for the Frozen films, Idina Menzel is not a good singer.

HOT takes, Mao, not Frozen takes.

She has nothing on the incomparable Adele Dazeem.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

She has nothing on the incomparable Adele Dazeem.

That's a pretty wicked take

Tanglebones wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

She has nothing on the incomparable Adele Dazeem.

That's a pretty wicked take

I know it won't be popular.

Lin-Manuel Miranda Is a terrible MC but I like him anyway.

I'll admit I was wrong: This whole "dark mode" thing is overrated and mostly poorly implemented. (Too many apps and sites don't seem to understand contrast.)

The covid-driven changes to resources and Game mechanics in Pokémon Go made it a much more fun and engaging game. As they've rolled those changes back, it's become clear just how much the game uses physical inconvenience as an impediment to fun and asks you to pay to circumvent that.

Hot Take: Annihilation The Movie was better than Annihilation The Book.

I just finished the book, and saw the movie when it hit rental.

I liked the book a lot, but not sure I will keep going with the series. The movie had a much better resolution.

If hot takes in this thread are no longer restricted to gaming related takes (see original post) then I've been stewing over this one for the past few months:
Turning your head to cough or sneeze while in conversation is just virtue signalling.

Spoiler:

Otherwise what's my f*cking mask for?

Rezzy wrote:

Turning your head to cough or sneeze while in conversation is just virtue signalling.

Spoiler:

Otherwise what's my f*cking mask for?

Unless your mask is a hermetically sealed respirator, no it's not.

Cloth masks reduce the spread of aerosolized particles. You sneeze through one, you're still shotgunning your immediate vicinity with nose-bits, just less than if you weren't wearing a mask.

Jonman wrote:

Unless your mask is a hermetically sealed respirator, no it's not.

Cloth masks reduce the spread of aerosolized particles. You sneeze through one, you're still shotgunning your immediate vicinity with nose-bits, just less than if you weren't wearing a mask.

So the points of highest failure will be at the edges at the sides, not the front. Right?

Rezzy wrote:
Jonman wrote:

Unless your mask is a hermetically sealed respirator, no it's not.

Cloth masks reduce the spread of aerosolized particles. You sneeze through one, you're still shotgunning your immediate vicinity with nose-bits, just less than if you weren't wearing a mask.

So the points of highest failure will be at the edges at the sides, not the front. Right?

I dunno. I suspect it depends entirely on how the mask is fitted, and how you sneeze.

And to be clear... OBVIOUSLY this is a joke take because regardless of protections sneezing or coughing into someone's face is rude. But if I'm not allowed to attempt a humorous 'upside' of always wearing a mask then I will submit to the siren call of insanity.

Rezzy wrote:

OBVIOUSLY this is a joke take

These days? It's not obvious at all.

Agathos wrote:

These days? It's not obvious at all.

Well crap. Reading it from a perspective I don't understand changes the tone in a way I was not anticipating and I'm tempted to edit it out now.
My gaming related Hot Take: It's 2020 and all games with Character Customization should include a face-mask option. I'm disappointed when it's not.

Rezzy wrote:
Agathos wrote:

These days? It's not obvious at all.

Well crap. Reading it from a perspective I don't understand changes the tone in a way I was not anticipating and I'm tempted to edit it out now.
My gaming related Hot Take: It's 2020 and all games with Character Customization should include a face-mask option. I'm disappointed when it's not.

Oooff! I’m not sure how I feel about this. I use games mostly as a way to escape real life problems and worries.

My character in FO76 wears a surgical mask when not in his hermetically sealed power armor.

Mixolyde wrote:

Hot Take: Annihilation The Movie was better than Annihilation The Book.

I just finished the book, and saw the movie when it hit rental.

I liked the book a lot, but not sure I will keep going with the series. The movie had a much better resolution.

Not sure how much my opinion is (or should be!) trusted, but the latter two books of the series brought the events of the first a weight and clarity that moved me quite a lot.

Spoiler:

Plus I feel the screenplay having the main character cheat on her husband with another human (rather than her being distant and married to her work) was an awful choice.