Previous incarnations of Cleveland/P&C/D&D have had an image thread, to handle political cartoons and other image-based stuff that doesn't belong in the general post-a-picture threads.
If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.
And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.
Sort of real!
http://www.unz.com/isteve/sanctuary-...
Is that a rhetorical question?
But if we don't finance our healthcare through ad campaigns don't we run the risk of pretty blonde children getting the same healthcare as darker haired, or even darker skinned children?
But if we don't finance our healthcare through ad campaigns don't we run the risk of pretty blonde children getting the same healthcare as darker haired, or even darker skinned children?
This is why the whole ad campaigns for organs thing reaaaaaally disturbs me, actually.
Woman gets on news for starting an ad campaign to get a new liver because she just can't wait anymore... bypasses a system set up to help people as much as possible and potentially f*cks over someone else also desperately waiting for a liver through the national system who may or may not live now because you spent money and made a big deal about yourself over others.
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Might as well just call it Nivea 66. Jesus. *facepalm*
I was just coming to post that. Well, at least the tweet of it is entertaining, too.
I remember seeing that the first week it was out and thinking "This is not going to end well".
I am as tone deaf as I think a person can be most of the time but that ad set off my alarms. It is hard to believe then didn't mean exactly the negative thing we all wonder if they mean.
I can't believe that 5-10 people sitting around talking about the ad wouldn't have mentioned the racist overtones and they still approved it.
Well, they've got a history of this. Years ago, they had an ad showing a neatly dressed black man holding the head of a black man with an Afro, about to throw it. The caption was "Civilize yourself ". It didn't go well. Apparently they forgot.
Well, they've got a history of this. Years ago, they had an ad showing a neatly dressed black man holding the head of a black man with an Afro, about to throw it. The caption was "Civilize yourself ". It didn't go well. Apparently they forgot.
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I can't believe that 5-10 people sitting around talking about the ad wouldn't have mentioned the racist overtones and they still approved it.
Five to ten? Ha!
There'd be more than that involved just at the agency that did the print ad: the creatives that came up with the concept; copywriters and designers that fleshed out multiple versions of the ad; and the layers and layers of internal approval by the lowliest of account managers to senior staff (and perhaps a partner depending on how big the account billings were).
And that approval process would be mimicked within Nivea, as well, with the marketing department and marketing executive reviewing and approving the ad.
So that means everyone involved in the process pretty much had to be 1) white, and 2) so sheltered that they never had a clue that there could be a (very obvious) alternative meaning to the copy.
And yet, people still don't understand the value of having a diverse staff in business.
So that means everyone involved in the process pretty much had to be 1) white, and 2) so sheltered that they never had a clue that there could be a (very obvious) alternative meaning to the copy.
Or (3) quite aware of the problem, but cowed by corporate culture to the extent that they were dissuaded from raising any objections, or (4) the objections they did raise were ignored and overruled by higher-ups (which kind of loops back into (2) and (3) anyway)
Nivea claims it was meant for a middle eastern audience. While people in ME and Asian countries face cultural pressures to lighten their skin, Nivea seems to think that's a good thing.
Nivea claims it was meant for a middle eastern audience. While people in ME and Asian countries face cultural pressures to lighten their skin, Nivea seems to think that's a good thing.
That makes it better, somehow?!
Something something market forces.
Or (3) quite aware of the problem, but cowed by corporate culture to the extent that they were dissuaded from raising any objections, or (4) the objections they did raise were ignored and overruled by higher-ups (which kind of loops back into (2) and (3) anyway)
I was under the erroneous impression the ad was targeted to American or European audiences.
As Chairman_Mao pointed out, the ad was targeted to consumers throughout the Middle East. That changes the dynamic of the creative and, viewed from that perspective, it isn't terrible (outside, of course, of the fact that Nivea is exploiting/reinforcing a social preference for lighter skin to sell crap).
That makes this whole thing a case study in what happens when the marketing message tailored for one global audience reaches another thanks to the internet. Ten years or so ago no one outside the Middle East would have seen that ad since it would have only run in magazines printed for the region.
But it was posted on Nivea's Middle Eastern Facebook page and so jumped into a culture where the marketing message had an entirely different--and entirely negative--meaning.
But it was posted on Nivea's Middle Eastern Facebook page and so jumped into a culture where the marketing message had an entirely different--and entirely negative--meaning.
Eh. Granted there's (slightly) less of the American slavery/racism complex involved, but it's not like Asia or the Middle East have fewer racial issues: just different ones that get less English-language airtime.
Go to the 2:50:30 mark. Yeah, it's a video, but it's worth it.
Might as well just call it Nivea 66. Jesus. *facepalm*
That is a terrible idea.
Nivea 66. Jesus. *facepalm* is too long a name for a product like that, and frankly a little too religious for mainstream skin care.
So wait... Trump was watching Rogue One *during* an Air Force One interview? He didn't even pause it?
My WTF-ometer is completely broken at this point.
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