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Previous incarnations of Cleveland/P&C/D&D have had an image thread, to handle political cartoons and other image-based stuff that doesn't belong in the general post-a-picture threads.

If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.

And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.

Also real weird that it's painted but non-liveried.

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So... he's dead?

Trump not good at words.

But WTF, Trump is now accusing Biden of trying to kill him.

This is not normal.

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Did not know that Space Marines are pro DEI?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

But WTF, Trump is now accusing Biden of trying to kill him.

It's fine, Presidents have immunity from anything they do in office. They especially have immunity from stuff dealing with elections, because part of their job is to make sure that elections are won by the right person. If Trump dies, he won't be able to be elected anymore, so this is election-related and therefore all perfectly legal.

Right?

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Ouch

Chairman_Mao wrote:

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So... he's dead?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Trump not good at words.

But WTF, Trump is now accusing Biden of trying to kill him.

This is not normal.

He recently discovered that the FBI were authorized to use deadly force when they executed the search warrant for the Mar-a-lago documents, and despite this being standard procedure for any Federal raid he’s claiming that it was Biden directly ordering the FBI to kill him.

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Ordering to assassinate a target that wasn't at the location where they were going? I mean, if Trump wants to use this as an example of a failed Biden policy, go right ahead.

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I don't get that take. No "libs" I know oppose TikTok because it radicalized anyone. It is opposed because state actors use it for nefarious purposes. Maybe it is positioned that way in the media somewhere, I don't know.

@bigsnugga needs to expand their horizons.

Not to mention, "libs" aren't the ones against gun control and not the party that has voted against it every time.

BadKen wrote:

I don't get that take. No "libs" I know oppose TikTok because it radicalized anyone. It is opposed because state actors use it for nefarious purposes. Maybe it is positioned that way in the media somewhere, I don't know.

That’s largely a narrative created to prey on people’s racism and red-scare fears in order to justify the legislation. There’s nothing China can do through TikTok that they couldn’t do just as effectively through non-state data brokers. The real reason was because it was a popular media source that the US couldn’t influence or control, which is why they’re pushing for it to be sold to a western company rather than just ban it outright. Pence openly admitted this in a recent interview. If they were serious about preventing China or any other country from abusing data technology they would also go after Meta, Google, etc. I mean FFS, Meta was caught facilitating an ethnic cleansing in Myanmar.

I think they mistakenly wrote “libs” because of you put “GOP” in its place it works.

No, they mean liberals. Specifically neo-liberals, but still. Ruhk covered the tik tok ban part. As for the gun stuff, the poster is not suggesting that the "libs" didn't want gun control after Sandy Hook, but blaming them for how quickly they gave up when they faced opposition. They demonstrated that they were not able to protect them, and the best they could offer was advice about what to do. That's what radicalized them, learning that liberal politicians were not willing to upset the status quo to protect them.

This is exactly the kind of narrative that China and Russia and other countries that see themselves in conflict with US interests love to see. Political infighting is the exact thing that prevents the US from making any real progress helping our own citizens, with enough resources left over to also help the rest of the world. If we're pointing fingers at each other, we're not pointing them at fascist and totalitarian regimes and taking decisive action against those regimes. More importantly, we're not making progress against the kinds of issues that can only be solved by cooperation.

I don't know about you, but I am not privy to the kind of information that the State department gave Congress that resulted in RIDICULOUSLY BIPARTISAN support* for opposing TikTok. Conflating that with the apparent inability of the federal government to prevent children being shot to death doesn't make any sense to me. Generalizing that sentiment to everyone with a liberal or conservative ideology (take your pick) makes even less sense.

I do not think like the average Arizona politician. Yet here I am, living and voting in the state whose legislature upheld ancient, no-longer-relevant legislation from before the territory was even a state. Does that make me culpable?

I wish this country could get over its addiction to inflammatory media that positions everything as a zero sum game. Maybe then we could work together to improve the conditions of everyone not in the privileged group sitting on their piles of capital and having a merry old time.

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Washington Post:
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Great example of their point, thanks. The problem is totally with the youth who feels like politicians do not care if they live or die. They're just being manipulated by China & Russia.

lol

Stengah wrote:

Great example of their point, thanks. The problem is totally with the youth who feels like politicians do not care if they live or die. They're just being manipulated by China & Russia.

If that's what you got from what I wrote, I don't know what to say.

If you can't see how your comments say that, then I don't know what to say either.

Meta reminder: text is a lossy medium. Discussing contentious topics can be constructive, but only when both parties read carefully, ask questions or clarify when something gets misinterpreted, and generally make a good-faith effort to pierce the veil of language and understand what the other person is really trying to say.

If either party isn't doing that, then you either avoid contentious topics or you enter youtube comment territory.

The difference with TikTok over other companies is the presumed ability of China to affect the algorithm and push content it wants out to specific demographics. Sure, it can buy and analyze all the data from everywhere else, but it can't directly manipulate your YouTube recommendations in the same way. It can only buy advertising on those other platforms, which probably isn't as effective for influence operations.

The better fix would be to teach our citizens better media literacy and critical thinking skills so they are less receptive to manipulation, but then they would stop voting against their own interests, so that ain't gonna happen.

100% this is just about xenophobia- Meta is openly far worse but it’s an american company so they’re free to manipulate their user base, aid genocides, and inflame polarization all over the globe.

I'm of two minds here.

Yes, there are long standing laws that say a foreign entity needs to get approval from the FCC to own broadcast outlet in the US. These laws are 100 years old, and they make sense. They are of course outdated, as broadcast TV and radio just are not how most people consume news ands information now. Like it or not social media outlets like TikTok are how a huge number of folks get info, and having a hostile foreign entity controlling it is bad.

But... Congress is going about this the wrong way. There are plenty of "US" owned social media companies that are basically nation states, and they are freaking terrible at handle citizens personal data. I wish I'd started an identity protection business about 10 years ago. Id' be fat and rich off of all the companies that buy those services for customers so they can wash their hands of responsibility.

What congress should be doing is passing comprehensive data protection laws that cover all of these companies, TikTok included.

Mixolyde wrote:

The difference with TikTok over other companies is the presumed ability of China to affect the algorithm and push content it wants out to specific demographics. Sure, it can buy and analyze all the data from everywhere else, but it can't directly manipulate your YouTube recommendations in the same way. It can only buy advertising on those other platforms, which probably isn't as effective for influence operations.

ruhk wrote:

100% this is just about xenophobia- Meta is openly far worse but it’s an american company so they’re free to manipulate their user base, aid genocides, and inflame polarization all over the globe.

The difference is that in China, the government owns the corporations, whereas in America, the corporations own the government. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.

Keldar wrote:

The difference is that in China, the government owns the corporations, whereas in America, the corporations own the government. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.

i.e. Everything sucks everywhere, all at once.

Who are these youth who have been radicalized? The students protesting to cut military ties with Israel? Students fighting to reform gun control? Those who speak out against draconian abortion laws and other acts of fascism?

These hardly seem like radical behaviors.