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If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.

And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.

BadKen wrote:

Who is the person you’re talking about firing?

Something to consider: if you really think TFG and his cronies wouldn’t be that much worse than another Democratic Party betrayal, you may want to reconsider. Picture what’s been going on in Haiti recently, except scaled up to the whole USA, with much deadlier weapons in the hands of white supremacist militias. That’s not something the country could come back from even in a generation.

I’m really concerned that there are a lot of angry betrayed people who underestimate what the 2025 plan might do to them and to the country.

Perhaps. But equally likely the Dem's will just use Trump, or the threat of someone like Trump to forever do nothing, slowly march right and the 2025 plan will become the 2027 plan or the 2030 plan even if the Dem's are in office the whole time.

This thing won't burn out. It's going to be TFG or someone like TFG forever. Populists aren't going away. The systemic troubles we face, the ineffectualism of voting one party or another is just steadily increasing the heat of the pot. This system we have now is dead. We are in a post norms and rules era. The Republicans are the only ones in power who seem to realize this.

Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

And this is all sort of an academic exercise anyway. Nothing I say matters a whit about who gets elected. Angry betrayed people are everywhere. You should be concerned. This thing you're seeing? It's a larger and larger number of people who wish for a populist that would set aside our political class aside (myself included on most days) and just get stuff done.

Someone somewhere else coined the term "Bizarro Liberal Trump" for the person on the left who would just get into the muck and really give the other side a kicking. Masks and gloves off, use the POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL BATTL--... I mean imperial presidency to just improve the lot of the working class even one iota. That person? Would be able to stay in office forever. They would have a vast base of support. The poor and downtrodden vastly outnumber the well to do and the comfortable. Democracy is a laughable joke when you keep turning out to vote for the same people and they keep doing the same stuff.

I can't say that I wouldn't support that person.

So... I really need a break. I've got to think about what I will say next.

You are all wonderful. I am sorry if I have been angry or dismissive. I just don't think Biden's made his case to enough people. Most of Trump's gains have been people of color. Yowza. That should give anyone pause. To vote for a person who wants to send you and yours to camps for the small chance that he brings it all down around EVERYONE. Think about the amount of misery and what kind of position in life people have to have to consider that...

Yowsa.

Hector Salamanca pressing his bell over and over again, his face twisted in a rictus of grief about his impending demise, then rage... as he hits the bell over and over again Someone post that PLEASE.

That's what we face.

Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

Oh, of course, they're completely different. It's very possible, though, that the US ends up run by regional militias using the same brutal tactics the gangs use in Haiti. Different paths to get there, but both end in petty warlords meting out extrajudicial justice with no consequences, all over the damn place.

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

BadKen wrote:

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

Yes but by everything we’ve seen in the last decade “everything in their power” for the Democrats is a photo-op in the Capitol Rotunda and maybe a harshly-worded editorial that really seems aimed less at the fascists then at the people disgruntled by them not doing anything about the fascists.

Mixolyde wrote:

Biden also basically refused to do anything to unpack the Supreme Court and has barely made a dent in the lower federal courts. That's the only way to fix voting rights for PoC. Otherwise we'll just see more enlightened jurisprudence like, "How can voter ID laws be racist if they're the same for everyone?" And "Clearly we don't need pre-clearance anymore, those states are only sl8ghrl6 racist now."

I shouldn't post after two Belgian beers.

I think you forget that the last time this remedy was used was when FDR packed the court and paid dearly for it in the midterms. FDR was by all accounts a MUCH more popular president and still got hammered for it. Biden likely and rationally believed it was a bridge too far.

Consider also that Congress would probably not have confirmed any of the new justices.

ruhk wrote:
BadKen wrote:

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

Yes but by everything we’ve seen in the last decade “everything in their power” for the Democrats is a photo-op in the Capitol Rotunda and maybe a harshly-worded editorial that really seems aimed less at the fascists then at the people disgruntled by them not doing anything about the fascists.

Yeah, but the ones in control of the party are largely the same Democrats who have been in office for decades. My main reason for not hastening the collapse is that I'm still hopeful that many of the younger Democrats actually give a sh*t and just need time for the older ones to die off so they can asume power over the party. I am willing to give that time considering what the alternative is.

BadKen wrote:
Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

Oh, of course, they're completely different. It's very possible, though, that the US ends up run by regional militias using the same brutal tactics the gangs use in Haiti. Different paths to get there, but both end in petty warlords meting out extrajudicial justice with no consequences, all over the damn place.

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

haha no. The Dem's would ABSOLUTELY NOT resist the warlords. They would work with them, "reach across the aisle" announce that they wan't to be "bipartisan", find common ground... Like there's a joke hiding here somewhere...

Something something, bipartisan committee, house investigation on the other, other white meat...

"We can all agree that poor people are delicious!"

Stengah wrote:
ruhk wrote:
BadKen wrote:

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

Yes but by everything we’ve seen in the last decade “everything in their power” for the Democrats is a photo-op in the Capitol Rotunda and maybe a harshly-worded editorial that really seems aimed less at the fascists then at the people disgruntled by them not doing anything about the fascists.

Yeah, but the ones in control of the party are largely the same Democrats who have been in office for decades. My main reason for not hastening the collapse is that I'm still hopeful that many of the younger Democrats actually give a sh*t and just need time for the older ones to die off so they can asume power over the party. I am willing to give that time considering what the alternative is.

How long after AoC was elected did it take her to stop railing against Nancy Pelosi and start calling her "Mama bear"? To condecend to her constituents in the (DSA?) why she was going against her oath to support the progressive plans to...(shoot I forgot the details)...

I'm out of gas.. carry on.

Drazzil wrote:
Stengah wrote:
ruhk wrote:
BadKen wrote:

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

Yes but by everything we’ve seen in the last decade “everything in their power” for the Democrats is a photo-op in the Capitol Rotunda and maybe a harshly-worded editorial that really seems aimed less at the fascists then at the people disgruntled by them not doing anything about the fascists.

Yeah, but the ones in control of the party are largely the same Democrats who have been in office for decades. My main reason for not hastening the collapse is that I'm still hopeful that many of the younger Democrats actually give a sh*t and just need time for the older ones to die off so they can asume power over the party. I am willing to give that time considering what the alternative is.

How long after AoC was elected did it take her to stop railing against Nancy Pelosi and start calling her "Mama bear"? To condecend to her constituents in the (DSA?) why she was going against her oath to support the progressive plans to...(shoot I forgot the details)...

I'm out of gas.. carry on.

Don't mistake realism for capitulation. An AOC that understands the existing power dynamics is far more effective than an AOC who rails loudly against the establishment but gets primaried out at the first opportunity.

This is not some feelgood fantasy where the good guys win by virtue of their goodness, or where all it takes is one principled stand before eveyone else joins in and then everything is fixed forever. The only way the good guys can win is if they work smarter than the bad guys, but the Democrats haven't been smarter at politics than the Republicans for long time now. The ones currently in control of the party are the ones that have been letting the Republicans undermine everything for decades, because they only ever cared if their seats were safe, and viewed progressive primary challangers as a bigger threat than what the Republicans were laying the foundation for all throughout rural america. Were stuck with the last of those leaders, as a handful of low-ranking members of Congress cannot take over the party overnight, no matter how much more popular with the people they are, especially when that system was designed to keep them from doing so. AOC's biggest win has been that she didn't get immediately squeezed out, and has actually made it easier for people like her to get in office. She can't just take power from Pelosi and the like, she has to convince them to transfer it to her, and she can't do that if she acts how you'd like her to.

It's not going to be fast, it may not even ever happen, but it's working towards progress rather than throwing your hands up and naively hoping that the good guys will prevail if we deliberately steer things towards another Civil War in the hopes that our side will come out on top again. Pretty sure there's already a movement for that anyways.

BadKen wrote:
Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

Oh, of course, they're completely different. It's very possible, though, that the US ends up run by regional militias using the same brutal tactics the gangs use in Haiti. Different paths to get there, but both end in petty warlords meting out extrajudicial justice with no consequences, all over the damn place.

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

I grew up in a public housing project for a los angeles feeder city during the 80's crack epidemic. I've met Crips and Bloods I would trust to run this country better then the two assholes we have now... And the bangers would pull drive bys on eachother every wkd.

Drazzil wrote:
BadKen wrote:
Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

Oh, of course, they're completely different. It's very possible, though, that the US ends up run by regional militias using the same brutal tactics the gangs use in Haiti. Different paths to get there, but both end in petty warlords meting out extrajudicial justice with no consequences, all over the damn place.

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

I grew up in a public housing project for a los angeles feeder city during the 80's crack epidemic. I've met Crips and Bloods I would trust to run this country better then the two assholes we have now... And the bangers would pull drive bys on eachother every wkd.

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EvilHomer3k wrote:
Drazzil wrote:
BadKen wrote:
Haiti does not compare to the United States. Haiti's always been awful. What the French did not do for Haiti it's own people and lack of natural resources did.

Oh, of course, they're completely different. It's very possible, though, that the US ends up run by regional militias using the same brutal tactics the gangs use in Haiti. Different paths to get there, but both end in petty warlords meting out extrajudicial justice with no consequences, all over the damn place.

For all their failings, Democrats would do everything in their power to prevent that kind of thing taking over. But the MAGA gang? It's their endgame.

I grew up in a public housing project for a los angeles feeder city during the 80's crack epidemic. I've met Crips and Bloods I would trust to run this country better then the two assholes we have now... And the bangers would pull drive bys on eachother every wkd.

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So I was being facetious (sp), hyperbolic and exxagerating.... But not by much.

Cept for growing up in a housing project during the 80's, during the crack epidemic, for a place an hour from LA. That happened.

Thank you for getting this thread back on track. I don't want to discuss politics I just want to see memes about them.

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If we have to, we'll flush ten times, fifteen times.

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Honestly, Google Trends sometimes makes me wonder how we've made a Democracy work at all.

Thanks Farley!

Prederick wrote:

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Honestly, Google Trends sometimes makes me wonder how we've made a Democracy work at all.

I think this is in reference to an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez quote where she was asking someone for specific crimes that President Biden would be charged with if he was impeached. The witness started to give a word salad which included "RICO". AOC then interrupted and said "RICO is not a crime, it is a category of crimes" and asked again for specific crimes.

For example, you could say Trump allies have been charged under RICO for forgery, false statements, conspiracy, impersonating public officers, etc. but just saying RICO is like saying they want to charge him with "felonies". Of course people are criticizing AOC for the first part of the quote and ignoring the context of the second half.

Yeah, key to RICO is racketeering, which is a collection of different types of crimes

Narrowly, it means coercive or fraudulent business practices; broadly, it can mean any criminal organization with ongoing profit, as defined in the 1970 U.S. RICO Act, which aimed to curtail the power of the Mafia and other organized crime.

Also RICO specifically involves a "corrupt" organization, such as, I don't know, the Trump Organization. Joe Biden does not as far as I know run or own his own company.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Yeah, key to RICO is racketeering, which is a collection of different types of crimes

Narrowly, it means coercive or fraudulent business practices; broadly, it can mean any criminal organization with ongoing profit, as defined in the 1970 U.S. RICO Act, which aimed to curtail the power of the Mafia and other organized crime.

Also RICO specifically involves a "corrupt" organization, such as, I don't know, the Trump Organization. Joe Biden does not as far as I know run or own his own company.

Diamond Joe Biden runs the criminal Biden Crime Family Organization along with his son Hunter "Laptop" Biden. Serving along with Barak "Barry Housain" Obama (who maybe a figurehead for Michelle "Golden Arms" Obama) under the Regime of Hillary "Benghazi" Clinton Capo Tutti di Capo of the entire Bill Hillary Chelsea Clinton Foundation. Obviously the main charges of Rico is using laptops to do Benghazi.

The data checks out. Book em.

NathanialG wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Yeah, key to RICO is racketeering, which is a collection of different types of crimes

Narrowly, it means coercive or fraudulent business practices; broadly, it can mean any criminal organization with ongoing profit, as defined in the 1970 U.S. RICO Act, which aimed to curtail the power of the Mafia and other organized crime.

Also RICO specifically involves a "corrupt" organization, such as, I don't know, the Trump Organization. Joe Biden does not as far as I know run or own his own company.

Diamond Joe Biden runs the criminal Biden Crime Family Organization along with his son Hunter "Laptop" Biden. Serving along with Barak "Barry Housain" Obama (who maybe a figurehead for Michelle "Golden Arms" Obama) under the Regime of Hillary "Benghazi" Clinton Capo Tutti di Capo of the entire Bill Hillary Chelsea Clinton Foundation. Obviously the main charges of Rico is using laptops to do Benghazi.

I'm deducting 2 points for a lack of "DO YOUR RESEARCH."

Otherwise, spot on.

You also forgot that their clandestine meetings are happening in the basement of Comet Pizza.

The only way to catch them is to drink the bleach and avoid the 5G autisms.

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I describe them as white Republicans that don't want to buy their weed from a black dude.

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I am sure it will trickle down soon

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