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If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.

And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.

Malor wrote:

They are, by definition, good people. Their lives are virtuous, they just made a little mistake, where other women are sluts and undeserving of rescue from the consequences they so richly deserve.

Passive aggressive predestination?

I'm all for shaming folks like Cruz, but giving the aid anyway. In my fantasy world there would be some way to magically know which recipients wanted to withhold aid from others, and condition aid to those people on them apologizing publicly, but that idea gets splattered by reality's windshield. It's an emotional idea that there is no way to implement, and even trying to implement it would cause far more harm than it could ever hope to do good.

When I hear ideas about letting red states suffer/letting them secede/cutting off the federal subsidisation of them it can feel good on a gut level, but I remind myself that in even the reddest of states there are many good reasonable deserving people who don't have the privilege of uprooting and leaving for better places. Even in the GOPs strongholds they rely on apartheid to cling to power, and the people under their boots don't deserve to be abandoned. If the price of helping those people is that a few undeserving MAGAts get help they desperately need too, then there is no real downside. Even [colorful metaphor]s deserve basic humane treatment.

I think that's the point. Feel free to shame Ted Cruz, but don't do it via dunking on red staters or making light of the situation.

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I don't think we need to "not all texans" this. When people dunk on red staters, they're rarely talking about the entire population, just the part of it that makes it a red state. If they're not one of the 4,260,553 Texans who voted for Ted Cruz, they're not in the group getting dunked on. If they are, well, then getting dunked on is the price of the help they'll get because the rest of us aren't jerks like them.

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Of course they are still going to reelect him because the would prefer to die themselves then elect a democrat but still it is kind of funny.

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Love that guy!
He needs to reprise Hellboy. I wasn't a fan of Hellboy until his portrayal. (abe sapien was really cool too)

There’s an old joke in the NBA about “1, 2, 3 Cancun”. Basically that players break a huddle with this when they’ve given up at the end of the season. Hats off to Steve Kerr for going there.

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farley3k wrote:

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I have to tell you that I hate this one.

People who aren't MAGA types are currently sawing up their fence and furniture to heat up snow to make potable water. This shouldn't be happening to Americans and I don't personally love pissing on average Americans, because their leaders are terrible.

"Average" Americans voted those terrible leaders into power. Likely because they hated abortion, didn't like immigrants, were afraid someone would take their bang bangs, etc.

Yeah, but they seem to still be voting R, which is basically the same thing. Choices have consequences. Texas is experiencing the results of their choices.

Empathy does exist though.....

Not for people who have no empathy themselves.

Biden got 46.5% of votes in Texas. Even if empathy is in short supply for people who still vote Republican after all that's happened, do not let the winner-takes-all electoral college BS cloud your judgment.

I like to think I'm complex enough to feel empathy for them going through it while also feeling smug about it being their own damn fault.

Nevin73 wrote:

Not for people who have no empathy themselves.

I see you found the GOP platform. Empathy by your bootstraps.

It's not a hall pass for acting sh*tty it's understanding people are human. Hopefully more eyes are opened. Not holding my breath.

Honestly, after some deeper-dive articles I've read, I think Texas would have been in deep sh*t no matter who had been in power for the last twenty or thirty years. Their planning simply doesn't include this kind of cold for this amount of time, and it probably wouldn't have, even under a government that understood climate change made this kind of disaster much more likely.

That said, under a saner government that had tied their electrical system into the rest of the country, we could probably have eased the impact on Texans by a great deal. The few interconnections they have aren't enough to do much of anything, where we should be able to flood the state with excess power from the rest of the country.

The disaster would have happened, no matter what. The depth of the disaster would probably have been much lower with a government in place that actually governed, and didn't fear Federal regulation on their power grid.

Remember, that the greatest toll felt during any natural disaster is felt by the poor, people of color, and those otherwise marginalized.

Spoiler:

And yes, they tend to vote D, for whatever that's worth.

And, for what it's worth, I'd have cheerfully shut things down to the minimum I could manage to free up power to help save Texans. I could live with low heat and no computers for a week if it would save lives. But we don't even have that as an option, because they're so intensely anti-Federal government there.

Malor wrote:

The disaster would have happened, no matter what. The depth of the disaster would probably have been much lower with a government in place that actually governed

Ladies and gentlemen, the modern USA in 27 words.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Remember, that the greatest toll felt during any natural disaster is felt by the poor, people of color, and those otherwise marginalized.

Spoiler:

And yes, they tend to vote D, for whatever that's worth.

Despite being gerrymandered into irrelevance, as well.

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OG_slinger wrote:

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Somehow this is just so perfect.

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"The only moral vacation during an emergency in my district is mine."

Malor I don’t buy that this was inevitable for Texas. Why? Because they were warned a decade ago that this was gonna happen.