
European Politics discussion
We have a thread for that, JC, if you want to add to it.
Spain election: Socialist Party set to prevent right from forming government
Spain’s general election delivered an upset as the Socialist Party of prime minister Pedro Sánchez performed better than polls had suggested and appeared on course to prevent the right from forming a government.The conservative Popular Party (PP) of Alberto Núñez Feijóo had been leading polls going into the snap election, although it had looked likely to need the support of the far-right Vox party to form a majority.
However, on Sunday night, with more than 80 per cent of votes counted, the two parties appeared to have fallen short of the 176 seats needed in Spain’s Congress in order to form a government.
Mr Sánchez looked in a better position to form another left-wing coalition with the new left-wing Sumar platform, led by labour minister Yolanda Díaz, which represents 15 smaller parties.
Problem is that there's no clear majority. Spain will probably go again through a mess of governments failing, reelections, rinse and repeat.
Problem is that there's no clear majority. Spain will probably go again through a mess of governments failing, reelections, rinse and repeat.
There is no clear majority in the Spainish parliament because there is no clear consensus amongst the Spainish people. That the no government has a majority in the legislature to change the laws (the status quo) is a good thing.
One of the best performers in the 2010s Eurozone crisis was Belgium. Because there was no parliamentary majority, their laws weren’t changed so they couldn’t implement austerity to the same extent as other countries, hence their economy recovered faster as the automatic stabilisers (unemployment benefits etc) kicked in.
The Spainish executive government functions continue under caretaker ministers. Government is more than legislature and when there is consensus about things that need to be done they can get through legislation. Supply and confidence agreements for minority governments are an entirely reasonable thing.
I think you're minimizing/ignoring the consequences like, for example, not being able to approve a budget. I mean, it's possible but there needs to be agreement which the parties seem incapable of looking at past experience.
Meloni stating Italy's intention to pull out of China's Belt and Road Initiative is a pretty huge development. It, along with Pakistani PM Sharif's statement that his country would no longer participate in "exploitative loans", signals emerging issues with China's debt trap diplomacy. I saw someplace that a HUGE number of the infrastructure projects have gone into nonpayment and that the Chinese are trying to restructure the loans with zero interest years to avoid outright defaults. That combined with their nine trillion dollar impending debt crisis resultant from collapsing domestic real estate makes me think their foreign policy direction is about undergo a radical shift.
I think you're minimizing/ignoring the consequences like, for example, not being able to approve a budget. I mean, it's possible but there needs to be agreement which the parties seem incapable of looking at past experience.
My understanding standing is that if you can’t pass a budget then the last year’s budget is used until a new one passes. I don’t read Spanish but that’s what I remember from when Rajoy was caretaker prime minister. I might be wrong but I have a memory of the contrast between it and the Republicans doing the shutdown on Obama.
Some brief mirth:
Ireland’s far-right party in crisis amid claims of stolen gold
It has the ingredients of a Frederick Forsyth thriller: stolen gold bullion, political intrigue, betrayal and a sprinkling of Adolf Hitler.
The saga of Ireland’s far-right National party and its vault of gold bars, however, has played out more like an Armando Iannucci farce.
On 23 July tweets on behalf of Justin Barrett, the leader of the tiny anti-immigrant party, said a “considerable” amount of gold had been removed from the party’s vault in south Dublin and that Barrett had asked police to intervene. The tweets called the alleged theft despicable and traitorous. “We will emerge from this fire and trial. Heat makes iron into steel.”
Gardaí promptly retrieved the gold, estimated to be worth €400,000 (£344,000), but two weeks later it remains unclear if the gold really was stolen, who owns it, what it was doing in the vault – and whether Barrett remains the party’s leader.
“An Garda Síochána is carrying out inquiries into an allegation of theft from a premises in Dublin 4,” a police statement said on Wednesday. “These inquiries are ongoing and no further information is available at this time.”
Media reports say police believe the party owns just a small fraction of the gold, with senior party members owning the rest. Barrett said it was stockpiled in case of a collapse in currency values.
Emma Blain, a councillor with the ruling Fine Gael party, has asked the Standards in Public Office regulator to investigate reports that the National party has not filed accounts for several years nor explained funding sources. The party did not respond to a Guardian request for comment.
It was those little brats from the Lucky Charms commercials.
Justin Barrett is such a class act...
400K euros worth of gold is about 225 ounces, which is about half of a typical gold bar. The article and the Barrett guy make it sound like there was a heist where stacks of gold bars were stolen.
There are 20g and 50g and even like 2.5g bars, and 1oz bars are sold too. It could literally have been 225 1oz bars bought from currency dealers. The big bars are used for bullion stores by countries and corporations.
True you can get gold in any size and shape you want. But there IS a standard size for “gold bars” and is what most people think of when someone says gold bars.
When someone says their vault of gold bars was robbed, you don’t think of it as gold about the size of a softball being taken, which is about what €400K of gold is.
The reason I did is that, because it was an office, I was picturing a small wall safe that might not even hold a big bar. It's just as you say, we all have preconceptions, but the fact is that it was likely a bag of small bars. (And of course, no one prepping for the apocalypse is going to buy big honking bars, they are going to get the small ones for easy trading, right?)
Smaller bars make for easier skiing
A funeral for fish and chips: why are Britain’s chippies disappearing?
One summer ago, before the region’s fish and chip industry was shaken by closures, before a death that was hard for people to bear, a lorry heaped with the first fresh potatoes of the season drove along the east coast of Scotland. This lorry wound its way along the East Neuk of Fife, dodging washing lines, mooring bollards and seagulls, parking with impunity to make deliveries. There was an understanding in the East Neuk that nobody would ever get angry and honk at the inbound “tattie” lorry, fish and chips being a staple meal, vital to the region’s economy. Tourists come shocking distances to sit on old harbour walls and stab around in takeaway trays with wooden forks. The fish and chips sold in the East Neuk might be the best in the British Isles and because of that (it follows) the best on the planet. Even so, by July 2022, local friers were finding it harder and harder to balance their books.
The driver of the tattie lorry, a red-cheeked Scotsman named Richard Murray, carried keys for most of the businesses on his route, to save from waking any tired friers who’d been up late the night before, poring anxiously over their sums. War in Ukraine coupled with ongoing complications from Brexit had driven up prices of almost all the goods that fish and chip shops depended on, from live ingredients to oil and salt to packaging. More distressing was the problem of rising energy costs. This meal is prepared using a great guzzler of a range cooker that must be kept on and roiling at all hours of a trading day. As the price of gas and electricity threatened to double, then triple, through 2022, friers were opening their energy bills with gritted teeth. A trade association called the National Federation of Fish Friers said that as many as a third of the UK’s 10,500 shops might go dark, warning of a potential “extinction event”.
One of the highlights of my trip to Scotland years back was visiting several chip shops in several cities. All of them served tasty food at good prices. (And yes, I knew to pick the fish out of the fry batter, although of course I did eat some of that too. I did want to survive the trip.)
‘A lack of respect’: Catalonian nudists campaign against clothed tourists
It was on a sun-kissed stretch of beach in Catalonia that Segimon Rovira began to feel self-conscious. For as long as the 56-year-old could remember, the area’s turquoise waters had primarily been frequented by nudists. Now, he was painfully aware of being surrounded by sunbathers – in their swimsuits.
“Before, people would arrive at a nude beach and either leave or strip down,” said Rovira. “Now they stay and keep their swimsuit on. But what they don’t realise is that if there are a lot of them, they end up making us uncomfortable. It’s a lack of respect.”
Now Rovira and other naturists in Catalonia are fighting back, with a campaign aimed at protecting the decades-long tradition associated with 50 or so of the region’s beaches.
“Nudism is not banned in Spain, you can do it on any beach,” said Rovira, who leads the Naturist-Nudist Federation of Catalonia. “But so as not to bother people, we prefer to go to beaches that have traditionally been nudist and where most people are naked. We want people to respect this.”
Recently the association sent a letter to the Catalan government asking for a meeting to address what it described as “the discrimination that nudists face on the beaches of Catalonia”. The collective has already starting mulling potential requests, from beefed-up signage for nude beaches to a public awareness campaign that could help foster respect for naturism. They have yet to receive a response.
At the heart of what the local media call the “textile invasion” is the boom in tourism and explosion of social media. As an ever-growing trove of blogs and travel guides vie to lead sun-seekers off the beaten path, they’ve highlighted the region’s most pristine and hidden beaches, often leaving out their longstanding ties to nudism.
Other times beachgoers themselves have chosen to overlook these ties, traipsing past the signs that read “nudist beach” in order to secure a spot on the golden sands. “We’ve lost a bit of civility,” said Rovira.
The result threatens to steadily erode naturism. “There are nudists who have stopped going to some beaches because they are too crowded and there are too many people wearing swimsuits and they feel uncomfortable,” he said.
Others have chosen to remain clothed, dissuaded by the throngs of smartphone-wielding visitors eager to share the beautiful backdrop with their online followers, said Rovira. “People that are naked don’t want to end up with their photos on social media.”
Some nudists have persevered, only to find themselves the focus of giggles, prolonged stares and, at times, disparaging remarks. “Unfortunately the women are usually more stared at or harassed,” said Rovira. “So they are discriminated against twice over; for being nudists and for being women.”
The hope is that the campaign will help ensure that certain beaches remain safe spaces for naturists and help to keep the tradition going. “Starting to practise naturism when you’re surrounded by people in clothing is very complicated,” said Rovira. “That’s why we think it’s important to have nudist spaces where the majority of people are nude so that people are encouraged to try it.”
Initially I snickered at this, but they do raise a good point. If a plurality of people at the "nude beach" are wearing clothes, it's gonna be uncomfortable to be the one getting naked.
That said, I AM going to giggle at the idea of how we could possibly enforce this.
Initially I snickered at this, but they do raise a good point. If a plurality of people at the "nude beach" are wearing clothes, it's gonna be uncomfortable to be the one getting naked.
That said, I AM going to giggle at the idea of how we could possibly enforce this.
As someone who's frequented more than a few clothing-optional events and venues, the uncomfortable people are nearly ALWAYS the clothed ones (cos absent their discomfort, they'd be stripping off too).
The naked people tend to not give a crap, that's the entire point.
But you go to the naked beach, the naked people are cool*, it's the clothed folk who are gawking and don't know what to do with themselves.
*notable exception for the inevitable lone naked masturbator that is standard issue for a nude beach
How do those self-abusers (so to speak) not end up getting kicked in the nuts and run off?
How do those self-abusers (so to speak) not end up getting kicked in the nuts and run off?
Patriarchy?
Serious answer, it's kind of baked into nude beach culture at this point? IME, they're quietly taking care of their business in a corner, not doing it aggressively AT you, cos that's how they get run off the beach.
Which obviously doesn't make it GREAT, but more of a "I see Nigel is enjoying the beach as usual" comedic observation to be made rather than a threatening act.
And to be fair, it's not like coupled up folk aren't "enjoying the beach" together sometimes too. Again, kind of an accepted facet of nude beach culture.
All news to me, thanks, Jonman.
The "not wanting naked pictures posted on the internet" seems like a very real concern to me.
The "not wanting naked pictures posted on the internet" seems like a very real concern to me.
Better hope Marjorie Three-Toes doesn't read them into the congressional record.
Germany’s ruling party plans to curb rent increases
Germany’s ruling Social Democratic party is set to propose a three-year rent break across the country, as tenants struggle to cope with the soaring cost of housing in Europe’s largest economy.
“We need to create breathing room — we need a rent freeze for the next three years,” senior SPD lawmaker Verena Hubertz told Bild am Sonntag, adding that Chancellor Olaf Scholz would outline measures on Monday to tackle the country’s cost of living crisis.
The SPD forms the most powerful group in Germany’s three-party coalition government.
Rents have this year risen at record rates across Germany — a country where the cost of housing has traditionally been stable enough for families to live in rented accommodation throughout their lives. Among Germany’s 41mn households, slightly less than 60 per cent live in rented accommodation, according to the German Federal Statistical Office.
Germans are also facing higher prices for other goods. Overall consumer price inflation was 6.2 per cent in the year to July, against a eurozone average of 5.3 per cent.
Existing rules aimed at regulating the property market cap rent increases at 20 per cent over three years — or 15 per cent in areas that have been designated as having particularly tight housing markets. Germany’s coalition government has already agreed to lower this cap to 11 per cent — something that the SPD has now signalled is not enough.
The party’s plans, according to a proposal seen by the news agency Deutsche Presse-Agentur, is to allow rents to rise by a maximum of 6 per cent in cities where demand is very high, while a blanket freeze would apply across the rest of the country.
/imagines this happening in NYC
//dies laughing because the city would burn to the ground before landlords let this happen
Germany’s ruling party plans to curb rent increases
/imagines this happening in NYC
//dies laughing because the city would burn to the ground before landlords let this happen
This sounds good, but is also controversial, as the construction industry is being hit hard since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Construction was already expensive before (wages, energy standards, etc...), and now inflation drove already high prices into the stratosphere.
The argument is, that if rent increases are capped, it will largely end construction of affordable housing - a sector that has already seen a massive slowdown since the beginning of 2022. The stated goal of the government is 400,000 new units of housing a year - which is what has been calculated as necessary to keep up with demand. In 2022, approximately 295,000 units were built. For 2023 it is estimated (according to an article from April on tagesschau.de) that 280,000 will be built. 2024 currently looks dire.
I'm an architect, and we've noticed the recent slowdown. Friends with relevant knowledge have reported that applications for new building permits have collapsed this year.
We rent, and luckily have not really been affected, but we also don't live in a major city. I like the idea of a cap (a primary reason we don't live in a bigger city is that for the money we pay in rent, we could only afford a fraction of the living space we currently have), but the argument that it would be the death knell of new construction in Germany isn't far fetched.
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