[Discussion] European Politics Discussion

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I guess Putin has to try this way because Trump lost and wasn't able to pull the US out of NATO.

OG_slinger wrote:

I guess Putin has to try this way because Trump lost and wasn't able to pull the US out of NATO.

I’m thinking part of his calculation is to pull the Biden administration into an unsolvable diplomatic mess which will increase the chances for Trump 2024. Republicans everywhere will just use it as another opportunity to criticize him instead of rallying in support of Western Europe like they would have in the good old days.

Then US is gone from NATO. Probably South Korea and other places too unless they successfully pull off a campaign of sustained, blatant ass kissing.

So where are we RE: The Queen's Dead/About To Die?

Prederick wrote:

So where are we RE: The Queen's Dead/About To Die?

I’ve been thinking/wondering the same thing. When’s the last time she was physically seen, November?

Granted, with omicron so transmissible, and her age at 95, caution is certainly warranted.

Oh yeah, but a lot of the statements coming out of the Palace have a very "The Queen is going to a farm where she can run and play with other Queens" kind of vibe to them.

Other than it being terrible for her, and her family (except the pedo son I guess), I am somewhere on the Dont care about Kings and Queens scale.

Prederick wrote:

So where are we RE: The Queen's Dead/About To Die?

That I'm happy to be 8000 miles away where I can mostly ignore it?

Prederick wrote:

So where are we RE: The Queen's Dead/About To Die?

I'm trying to avoid The Crown spoilers.

Nato chief warns of ‘real risk of conflict’ as talks with Russia over Ukraine end

In what I'm sure is unrelated news, Combat Mission: Black Sea is currently on sale at Battlefront.com.

EDIT: It was over the weekend! C'mon Battlefront! The opportunity is RIGHT THERE.

They're just trying to find Hunter Biden's laptop, that's all.

Well, nothing is inevitable, but we do appear to be creeping towards a "when does the shooting start" situation.

Russia has sent troops more than 4,000 miles to Ukraine’s borders and announced sweeping naval drills as Moscow expands its preparations for a potential attack on Ukraine as negotiations appear at a deadlock.

Six Russian landing ships capable of carrying main battle tanks, troops and other military vehicles travelled through the Channel en route to the Mediterranean last week in a deployment that could bolster an amphibious landing on Ukraine’s southern coast if Vladimir Putin orders an attack. Ukraine’s military intelligence has claimed that Russia is hiring mercenaries and supplying its proxy forces in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions with fuel, tanks and self-propelled artillery in preparation for a potential upsurge in fighting.

And a large military force, including Iskander short-range ballistic missiles, elite spetsnaz troops and anti-aircraft batteries, has arrived in Belarus from Russia’s eastern military district, an extraordinary deployment that western officials and analysts say could enable Moscow to threaten Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital.

The new deployments have worried US officials. “What concerns us is the total picture,” said a senior state department official in a briefing last week. “It is the amassing of 100,000 troops along Ukraine’s borders combined with moving forces into Belarus over the weekend … these numbers are beyond, of course, what we would expect with regard to a normal exercise.”

The Russian disinformation plan is already being executed, I see.

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Can't wait for the eight Republican Senators who went to Russia on the 4th of July a few years back to start talking about how we have to support our close ally, the Russians.

Dear British Goodjers:

How many f*cking COVID lockdown parties did Boris throw?!?

More or less than the frankly shocking number of children he apparently has?

What are the chances that Boris gets thrown out on his ass? Looks like there was some "vigorous" discussion this morning in parliament...

I am starting to wonder if there was ever a time when politicians (regardless of where in the world they are) were held accountable for their actions. Certainly doesn't seem like that happens anymore.

Only when their actions upset other, more powerful politicians.

Prederick wrote:

Dear British Goodjers:

How many f*cking COVID lockdown parties did Boris throw?!?

More or less than the frankly shocking number of children he apparently has?

17 in total, 12 of which are being investigated by the Metropolitan Police force (basically the London police who are so important they get their own name) Parties, not children. I think he has 11 of those now what with the new one with his current partner.

The report into the parties, which the Met stymied by asking the person compiling the report not to included anything pertinent to their investigation (i.e. 95% of it) still managed to say that:

1. Many of the Parties should not have taken place. This is her basically saying they broke lockdown laws at the time and were illegal. That alone should see Boris removed as he lied to Parliament about it. The Met investigation is actively interfering with that.

2. There is an "excessive" drinking culture in No.10. For that to be mentioned in an official report probably means they've been boozing it up every night.

3. The has been "a general lack of leadership" - she doesn't say who because of the police investigation, but she does make the point that Senior staff are to blame, not the little people. If it were and HR department you can be fairly sure those in the firing line would be getting sacked.

JC wrote:

What are the chances that Boris gets thrown out on his ass? Looks like there was some "vigorous" discussion this morning in parliament...

I am starting to wonder if there was ever a time when politicians (regardless of where in the world they are) were held accountable for their actions. Certainly doesn't seem like that happens anymore.

Does that mean Boris will resign? No - he's an Eton educated toff who has never had to take responsibility or face the consequences of his actions in his entire life - he's not going to start now. He's been sacked from two jobs for lying, he has multiple children from relationships he's walked away from (as referenced above), taking responsibility is something he's emotionally and pathologically incapable of doing.

The bigger question is - or maybe was - whether the rest of the MPs in the Conservative party were prepared to hold him to account and force a Leadership contest. The answer to that looks increasingly like no, they won't.

EDIT: Wrong thread!

Boris Johnson sang 'I Will Survive' to new communications chief Guto Harri

Boris Johnson told his new director of communications Guto Harri, "I will survive", by singing him lines from the Gloria Gaynor song as he appointed him to the post.

Mr Harri was hired after a string of resignations from No 10 amid turmoil over parties held during lockdowns.

The aide told a Welsh news website he had seen the PM on Friday afternoon.

He also said his new boss was "not a complete clown" but "a very likeable character".

Mr Harri told Golwg 360 that after exchanging lines from the 1970s disco hit, and "a lot of laughing", he and Mr Johnson had "sat down to have a serious discussion about how to get the government back on track and how we move forward".

He added: "90% of our discussion was very serious but he's a character and there is fun to be had. He's not the devil like some have mischaracterised him."

The Thick of It is not a TV show, it's a documentary.

Love The Thick of It.

In the Loop was also a fantastic movie.

Doctor Who was a fowl-mouthed warmonger.

French presidential election this weekend which Marcon is probably going to win. However there are several big stories falling out of this. Mélenchon's wipeout of the Socialists/end of traditional parties or Le Pen's rise in the polls/greater number of far right voters would be the two big ones.

I strongly suspect the Commission is going to relax or come under pressure to relax it monitoring of deficit spending or allow public spending on housing and transport skirt the rules. Cost of living is the big issue now and it's just has to be addressed.

Thank you, totally forgot to post this very, very, very important story.

French election: Macron and Le Pen clash in TV presidential debate

Cost of living: From the start Marine Le Pen said this was her priority: "I will permanently cut VAT on energy. I will also cut taxes, no income tax for under-30s." She accused Mr Macron on letting pension levels fall in real terms too.

Mr Macron said his solution was to impose a cap on prices which was "twice as effective as dropping sales tax".

They became animated as they disagreed on how to bring down energy prices. Mr Macron repeatedly challenged his opponent's proposals as unworkable. She snapped back: "I want to give the French their money back."

Meanwhile in the UK:

Boris Johnson (him again) will become the first sitting Prime Minister to be investigated by Parliament for lying to the house over the Partygate affair.

After being fined as part of the Metropolitan Police investigation Boris made an extremely mealy-mouthed apology, still denies he did anything wrong and attempted to manipulate his own party into ensuring that the investigation wouldn't take place.

No. 10 U-turned on that this morning and allowed a "free vote" after some many Tory MPs had to point out their constituents were furious and they couldn't be seen to part of any attempt to hinder any such investigation. It was passed without object this afternoon.

It's certainly not the end of Boris, but given all the attempts that have been made for the whole partygate investigation to disappear and yet it just won't go away, it could just be that the writing is on the wall.

Quite scared about the French election even if polls are looking better.

The problem with helping everyone with cost of living is that we might just make the issue worse, throwing fuel on the inflation fire.
Might have to focus only helping those most in need, who are unable to pay the bills. and accept that things are going to suck for everyone for quite a while.

Then throw everything we got into building up clean energy capacity and help industries to change to those energy sources as soon as humanly possible.

Shadout wrote:

Quite scared about the French election even if polls are looking better.

The problem with helping everyone with cost of living is that we might just make the issue worse, throwing fuel on the inflation fire.
Might have to focus only helping those most in need, who are unable to pay the bills. and accept that things are going to suck for everyone for quite a while.

Then throw everything we got into building up clean energy capacity and help industries to change to those energy sources as soon as humanly possible.

And maybe not suck up to questionable regimes just because they've got lots of resources we need?

Hence replacing those resources. Won't happen tomorrow, but at least we should start today.

Don't disagree. I'd argue that Nuclear is now on the table after a life long rejection of it. But I do think that huge public transport investment and a new approach to how housing is delivered has to be considered. For both climate and societal reasons.