NCAA Basketball 2016-17 Catch-All

...so yeah, UCONN's streak just ended at 111.

It's better for the sport for anyone besides UConn to win for a while.

Waaaaay too close for comfort. One more to go. Would really like to see them bring it home this time!

Congrats UNC. Redemption tour complete. Ceiling is the roof, etc.

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Ugly game by both teams. Lots of fouls, no rhythm, Justin Jackson goes 0/10 from 3pt range, and we STILL pull it out in the last minute. Like almost every game in the tournament, defensive stop on the last play seals the deal.

My heart goes out to the Gonzaga bulldogs and their fans. I was wearing those same shoes last year, about this exact time.

Go heels!!!!

Congrats on the win, EgoMan!

ubrakto wrote:

Congrats on the win, EgoMan!

Thanks. It was really close. Surprised that I was the only one to pick UNC.

I guess that makes me the 4 time champ. Not bad for a football school grad.

NCAA hoops season is barely over and well lets take a look at whats going on at Cal.

1. Lose NIT 1st round game by 20 to Cal State Bakersfield
2. Head coach Cuonzo Martin resigns and takes job at Missouri
3. Ivan Rabb declares for NBA draft
4. Center Kameron Rooks grad transfer
5. 4-star committed recruit Jemarl Baker granted release from LOI and signs with Kentucky
6. Freshman PG (and best remaining player) Charlie Moore declares intent to Transfer

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Oh yeah, I don't have a link, but good news. Pitt graduate was allowed to transfer to UNC finally. Pitt realized they were breaking NCAA rules by trying to force him to sit out and looking like assholes on top of it by trying to limit where he could play and finally gave in.

Kid graduated in 3 years, good for him.

So time to close out last season's basketball thread with an FBI investigation. That's WSJ.

Here's ESPN.

Fox Sports just ran the AP story

The coaches were identified in court papers as Chuck Person of Auburn University, Emanuel Richardson of the University of Arizona, Tony Bland of USC and Lamont Evans of Oklahoma State. They are in federal custody and expected to make court appearances later Tuesday.

4 coaches arrested, plus some other guys, including an adidas executive. Other schools named or mentioned in the report but it's easy to figure out who. Adidas paying for players. Much more to sort out before it's all over.

Crazy story. Leeeeetle bit nervous about being an Adidas school right now.

This article on cbs back from June reads so much differently now.

Carlbear95 wrote:

This article on cbs back from June reads so much differently now.

Oh yeah. We're definitely "University 6". The only hope is the line about how the adidas guys kept it from the university. Like they paid him to go to an adidas school, not our coaches paying him or arranging for it. But still we're probably in some sh*t.

Have to admit, Kansas’ $191 million contract with Adidas makes me think Kansas and Bill Self could pop up here. So far the Jayhawks look fairly clean. Kansas offered on three of the players involved, but all three signed with other schools involved in the scandal without visiting Kansas.

Just heard on the radio that Pitino and the Louisville AD is out. Feels like there are a lot more shoes to drop.

Considering being on probation and Rick not catching this, I can't argue much with firing him.

But Jurich built a great men's basketball only school into a Heisman trophy, Olympic gold medal swimming, college world series baseball, men's soccer college cup, and women's final four juggernaut. Plus ranked and conference championships in a bunch of other sports. Seems odd to let him go when 1 of 25 programs screwed up only.

In the 4 main revenue sports of m/w basketball, football and baseball we have the best combined record in the ACC the 3 years we have been a member.

Stele wrote:

Considering being on probation and Rick not catching this, I can't argue much with firing him.

But Jurich built a great men's basketball only school into a Heisman trophy, Olympic gold medal swimming, college world series baseball, men's soccer college cup, and women's final four juggernaut. Plus ranked and conference championships in a bunch of other sports. Seems odd to let him go when 1 of 25 programs screwed up only.

In the 4 main revenue sports of m/w basketball, football and baseball we have the best combined record in the ACC the 3 years we have been a member.

You're too close to it to see things the way non-Louisville people do. You're already in the crosshairs of the NCAA and something like this happens, and your president or regents (whoever) likely decided that you needed to make a public show of cleaning house. It may be all about optics, but you want to give the appearance of a program that is absolutely dedicated to changing its ways. Yeah, most of your sports might be clean, but no one is paying attention to those. Besides, football and men's basketball are the two programs that most people pay attention to during normal times.

Jurich is the guy who hired Pitino and kept him on board through two scandals (that I know of) that would have seen him gone from many other places. He also rehired Petrino after he'd had a major scandal that got him fired from Arkansas. Regardless of what you think of Jurich, or second chances, or whatever, that doesn't exactly scream "absolute dedication to running a clean program".

I'm not judging here, I don't really care - I'm just trying to frame it the way outsiders and the bigwigs are likely seeing it.

Well said Fedaykin. I'd be shocked if any of these recruits involved ever have a chance to play college hoops.

Miami's president said even though they weren't named initially, one of their coaches is under investigation for the same cash for recruits scheme. Makes me think this is just the tip of the iceberg for college hoops.

Edit: Miami is University-7 in the investigation.

I suspect the FBI released the info how they did n order to see if they could get some head coaches they are watching to start making incriminating moves to cover up their involvement.

So, yeah, we are going to see a LOT more people go down. The practice is too widespread and accepted for there not the be more.

Former player David Padgett named interim head coach for Louisville.

Honestly expected him to get the full time job in 5 years when Pitno's contract was up. Figured he'd go get his first HC gig in a year or two at some small school, make it to the NCAA tournament with them, and then be ready to come back.

Don't think this thing is over by a long shot.

FBI can't release documents about Kansas

Wednesday, the FBI said the material requested by the Kansan “is located in an investigative file which is exempt from disclosure.”

“The records responsive to your request are law enforcement records; there is a pending or prospective law enforcement proceeding relevant to these responsive records, and release of the information in these responsive records could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings

I don’t think the story links Kansas to the scandal anymore than the already widely known $190 million conttact they signed with Adidas. If I were the FBI, I would be looking at KU, too. So there could still be a there, there, but it’s doesn’t feel more likely than before.

One thing the article did mention, that could be a ray of hope, is that the contract is significantly different than Louisville’s, in which 98% of the money went straight to Pitino. In the Kansas contract, 100% goes to the Athletic Department. Doesn’t mean that there still aren’t games being played, but at least explains why Pitino is gone and Self is not, at least yet.

So many more shoes to drop.

At Louisville, 98 percent of the money Adidas paid the school went directly toward paying then-coach Pitino, according to the Louisville Courier-Journal. That is drastically different at the University and how Kansas Athletics pays coach Bill Self, according to the Lawrence Journal-World.

Marchiony told the Journal-World on Oct. 6 that all of Adidas’ money goes directly to Kansas Athletics and Self has never had a separate contract with the company, as Pitino did.

“Whatever you’re talking about, cash or product, it all comes to Kansas Athletics first,” Marchiony told the Journal-World. “Adidas pays the school and not Bill.”

From the KC Star:

KU Athletics maintains FBI hasn’t contacted it regarding Adidas investigation

His statement came after the Kansan reported that its Freedom of Information Act request sent to the FBI requesting any KU documents related to a potential FBI investigation was rejected. The response letter stated, “The material you requested is located in an investigative file which is exempt from disclosure ... ”

Later in the letter, FBI Section Chief David M. Hardy states, “This is a standard notification that is given to all our requesters and should not be taken as an indication that excluded records do, or do not, exist.”

That was the old contact, where Pitino got like 2 million a year from Adidas. That actually saved the school money by being able to pay a lower salary. The new $160 million was for the school. Another reason Jurich shouldn't be fired.

As usual the CJ paper in Louisville is trash and has been doing their best hit pieces on Pitino and Jurich the last couple weeks, distorting facts as much as they can.

There's a reason all their best sports reporters jumped to local TV stations about 10 years back. Paper is a pale shadow of itself.

So for 18 years of coordinated cheating among the entire athletic department, UNC gets off with no penalty