Red Dead Redemption 2 Catch-All

I booted this up just for a second. Single player mode. Dude is crouching next to a river. Ducks take flight. Fish jump in the water. There’s a snow capped mountain in the background. No HUD. The scene was absolutely stunning!

I don't usually have moments where my gaming life and my married life intersect, but today my wife, an ex-horse girl, spied me going through the stable management system, so I had to show her all of my horses.

RawkGWJ wrote:

I booted this up just for a second. Single player mode. Dude is crouching next to a river. Ducks take flight. Fish jump in the water. There’s a snow capped mountain in the background. No HUD. The scene was absolutely stunning!

I love this also, sometimes before quitting the game I go to another town, or random place int he wilds and quit the game, so the next boot up of singleplayer its an awesome movie scene.

Discovered after about 60 hours: this game does not like Bluetooth headphones. I had completely tuned out the everpresent crackle in the audio, but then plugged in my headphones directly and it was completely gone!

kazooka wrote:

Discovered after about 60 hours: this game does not like Bluetooth headphones. I had completely tuned out the everpresent crackle in the audio, but then plugged in my headphones directly and it was completely gone!

That might be your bluetooth card/chip. By default they're basically garbage in PCs (mine are the same way)

kazooka wrote:

I don't usually have moments where my gaming life and my married life intersect, but today my wife, an ex-horse girl, spied me going through the stable management system, so I had to show her all of my horses.

My wife, who does not game much at all, has put about 200 hours into this since it arrived on XBOX gamepass a month ago. I showed her the horses and figured she would find the gameplay abhorrent as she is vegetarian and not really into digital gunplay. I could not have been more wrong.

polypusher wrote:
kazooka wrote:

Discovered after about 60 hours: this game does not like Bluetooth headphones. I had completely tuned out the everpresent crackle in the audio, but then plugged in my headphones directly and it was completely gone!

That might be your bluetooth card/chip. By default they're basically garbage in PCs (mine are the same way)

Sounds about right. My bluetooth setup is a little stub that's plugged into a USB port. I always have issues with it.

Took me forever to finish this, but I finally did after starting the game 3 times, and buying it for Xbox at first, then PC. About 75 hours total between the 3. Wow, what a masterpiece in storytelling. Sucked me in the 3rd time. The characters really got me. Wonderful ending. Now onto RDR 1 on Xbox One enhanced. Since I've played that 2-3 times but stopped and never finished.

Finished, with a lot of loose collectibles and side missions dangling, but I'm not very motivated to get back to them.

This one's going to stick with me for awhile, and I'm not quite sure why. I do share a last name with Arthur Morgan, so possibly it made more personal for me. (And it's really strange having a bunch of people call you by your actual name in the game.) But I thought it had an incredibly theme for a video game. Arthur was a man who realized that his life wasn't what he thought it was, and that he wasn't going to be able to change almost any of the consequences of that, especially not the personal ones. That's not a story we see a lot.

And oddly, I'm not sure they quite pull it off. It's almost more emotionally resonant because it doesn't quite have a satisfying narrative and conclusion. Arthur sees the end coming, can't do anything to stop it, and then

Spoiler:

dies

He makes a lasting impression on his friends, but ultimately nothing that he does really matters. His most consequential actions come in the side stories. And I'd argue that at least one of those stranger missions, the Mrs. Downes sequence, should have been included in the main missions. It's the culmination of the debt-collecting missions and a couple of other side missions, so I feel like you could have missed it pretty easily, but it's a much summation of Arthur Morgan than the main mission itself.

I keep wanting to see this as a story about Dutch Vanderlinde, but we're just not given enough about him. We never quite figure out what did happen in Blackwater. Why did he shoot that girl? What was his deal with Micah? Was he ever a true idealist, or was he always someone who rode the line between benevolent patriarch and sociopathic predator to the point that the line disappeared? The story doesn't really want to give us those answers, needs Dutch to remain something of a mythic figure in the heads of the protagonists. By the end, it's clear that whatever he was, he's now purely predator, retreading old schemes in the hopes that it will somehow recreate old glories. And it also becomes clear that the money was always a secondary concern for Dutch.

Spoiler:

By the end of the epilogue, it's clear that he and Micah have enough money that he could sail off to Tahiti or Australia and start a new life. But he doesn't. Why? What drives him? Is it the thrill of pulling off these heists, of (not quite) holding together a family against incredible odds?

In a non-fiction narrative, you would say that he needs outside threats to reinforce his authority as a cult leader. I think Red Dead is smart enough to say the same here, and also smart enough to realize that most cult leaders do not begin as self-centered autocrats. But for this to be a story about Dutch, you'd need to see him both as the cult leader and as the selfless idealist. And we really only get glimpses of the latter.

Picked this up on the Steam sale. Jumped right in with a buddy to multiplayer. Did some bounty's, helped a few folk, got murdered many times in town by other players.

Game has a little bit of learning curve but I'm liking it so far.

Going to fire up the single player and run through the story which will probably help me on my multiplayer.

Any things you wished you'd known about starting out that you know about now that a new player would find helpful?

My social club username is Sydhart76 and on Steam is Sydhart if anyone wants to "posse" up. Is that what it's called?

RawkGWJ wrote:

I booted this up just for a second. Single player mode. Dude is crouching next to a river. Ducks take flight. Fish jump in the water. There’s a snow capped mountain in the background. No HUD. The scene was absolutely stunning!

Yup.

Then you try to talk to them and accidentally shoot them, someone sees and you have a bounty.

Such a beautiful game with such God awful controls.

farley3k wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:

I booted this up just for a second. Single player mode. Dude is crouching next to a river. Ducks take flight. Fish jump in the water. There’s a snow capped mountain in the background. No HUD. The scene was absolutely stunning!

Yup.

Then you try to talk to them and accidentally shoot them, someone sees and you have a bounty.

Such a beautiful game with such God awful controls.

I think the controls got better. I was playing on PC with controller. Maybe the FPS made it better.

farley3k wrote:
RawkGWJ wrote:

I booted this up just for a second. Single player mode. Dude is crouching next to a river. Ducks take flight. Fish jump in the water. There’s a snow capped mountain in the background. No HUD. The scene was absolutely stunning!

Yup.

Then you try to talk to them and accidentally shoot them, someone sees and you have a bounty.

Such a beautiful game with such God awful controls.

You must be thinking of a different game. Ducks and fish don’t talk in RDR2.

RawkGWJ wrote:

You must be thinking of a different game. Ducks and fish don’t talk in RDR2.

There's probably a mod for that.

I find the terrible controls complaint pretty bemusing, I thought they were very good, but I played in December 2019 on PC so they may have improved from the console release.

I've given up. I really wanted to like this. Was expecting to love it. Red Dead 1 is one of my all time favourites. Sadly this just doesn't suit me at all. Side quests and hunting feel like a bothersome chore rather than exciting like in 1 and the story is frankly boring and doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Just not for me I guess.

strangederby wrote:

I've given up. I really wanted to like this. Was expecting to love it. Red Dead 1 is one of my all time favourites. Sadly this just doesn't suit me at all. Side quests and hunting feel like a bothersome chore rather than exciting like in 1 and the story is frankly boring and doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Just not for me I guess.

The story gets better. Honestly thought it was epic. It took me 3 tries to get into it. Loved it and miss it.

Hopefully you'll be able to come back to it later with different expectations. It's a really remarkable game, but definitely unorthodox in a lot of unnecessary ways. I still think about it a lot.

beanman101283 wrote:

I still think about it a lot.

+1

My supervisor at work has recently become obsessed with the game and stops by daily to talk about what he did recently. While my first play through I found to be overly long and a bit plodding, I find myself wanting to drop back in and give it another play even though my pile of games is through the roof.

strangederby wrote:

I've given up. I really wanted to like this. Was expecting to love it. Red Dead 1 is one of my all time favourites. Sadly this just doesn't suit me at all. Side quests and hunting feel like a bothersome chore rather than exciting like in 1 and the story is frankly boring and doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Just not for me I guess.

I don't expect to convince you to return, but I'd like to offer some suggestions.

I think the story is very good, but I agree that the plotting is deliberately slow (at least in the early stages). And it doesn't help that - like the rest of us who played RDR1 - you already know how it ends... in the end.

But its that very slowness that allows the game to flesh out the characters and develop its themes. Every character in the game feels like a person with a backstory and a life outside of the game, rather than an identikit NPCs. And it has some really interesting ideas about what makes outlaws outlaws, the nature of civil society, the value of work, etc.

My main suggestion is to skip the side missions and optional activities, and mainline the story missions. Like all the GTA games, RDR2 is as long as you choose to make it. But I think there's broad agreement that the main story is about 40 hours long.

On the hunting, my view Rockstar have added real depth to it. It's no longer about sticking a few 'dead eye' markers on the target, and blasting it to kingdom come. Its about choosing the right weapon, and executing the right shot to get a perfect pelt. I found it that puzzle-solving element very satisfying, but I accept that others' mileage will vary.

This isn't a game that does anything new, but - in my view - its a game that simply does it better than any other game before it. I think it benchmarked itself against The Witcher 3, and I believe it is the game that everything else in open world genre will now be benchmarked against.

I keep telling myself to really try digging into story mode, but I always drift back to online mode. I feel like sometimes I don't have the energy, or attention span, or whatever, to really engage with the story. In RDO I can just wander around and do stuff, no serious cutscenes required.

Last night, after a few drinks, I started tipping my hat to random people I saw. Most just ran away. A few waved back. One guy shot me with an elephant gun. Life, eh?

I've been taking the story in small doses, and I'm loving it. Just made it to the first time and had a big bar fight. Really fun. Controls are wackadoo but I'm trying to adapt.