Thread for race issues in media.
Birth Of a Nation
This movie isn't do so good. I think this is because black people are tired of slave type movies, white people don't want the white guilt, and everybody else is turned off by the rape case. I mean this in general. This is just a perfect storm for the downfall of the movie.
Surviving Compton
Straight out of compton left out the ladies. This lifetime show means to correct that. I believe all of the production was done by women.
Mulan live.
All Chinese cast. Maybe the dumb choices of Gods of Egypt are over.
I'm always amazed by those incidents like that.
Like, from a purely cynical, self-interested perspective, shouldn't you at least have the forethought not to do that in public?
Like, racism aside, I think it's fair to fire him on "terrible judgement" grounds.
I particularly love when the aggrieved casual racist complains that he is being "cancelled" for his speech because folks call him out on it and make it clear they have no interest in hearing his bullsh*t anymore. Guess what, you old f*ck. You don't have a human right to an audience. If folks are sick of hearing about your dumbassery, they aren't violating your "free speech" when they tell you to go flog your bile someplace else. And invariably, they blame his lack of a sympathetic audience on "wokeness" and derides the erosion of his whites only worldview as "replacement" or some other such bullsh*t.
This is the very essence of American conservatism distilled down its base nature. Pure, unadulterated butthurt.
Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson *really* hates Meghan Markle.
It's quite the blend of misogyny and, of course, unspoken racism.
And it's something that The Sun basically said "that's some vitally important big brain thinking there, Jeremy, let's share it with a couple million people."
The Sun wrote:near incoherent feeble old white man hollering
I'll posit there's more to the blend than just that. I'm going to spoil a very nsfw comment about the writer of that article.
Would not be the least bit surprised to learn later down the road that The Sun just gave carte blanche to a famous guy to write something for their rag who also happens to be a dirty old man who's into fisting? He brings it up at least twice in what was quoted here, and descriptively at that. It's the only time he gets creative with language beyond describing his dystopic fantasy scenarios about the royal couple. The rest is structurally at a grade-school level. Seems to have a shame/humiliation fetish, as well, so using this wank piece to get people to berate him for being an awful person was probably intended. Dude probably has a small collection of otherwise innocent-looking pictures of the subject of this piece with her hands showing saved to a folder somewhere.
This is exactly on brand for Clarkson and the Sun.
JK Rowling issues as seen by a trans person. Very long. This person use to support rowling. Then they were more you can like the art and not the artist. Now they are against rowling because as the times change rowling has become more and more of a villain.
JK Rowling issues as seen by a trans person. Very long. This person use to support rowling. Then they were more you can like the art and not the artist. Now they are against rowling because as the times change rowling has become more and more of a villain.
The comments for this particular video are so powerful.
Just started watching The Last of Us and currently on episode 3 which I think was one of the best hours of tv.
Well apparently some people were complaining about the show being to "woke". I still think mainly racists and homophobes use it in the negative. Some people seem to be upset over casting a mandalorian for Joel instead of a white dude. They were also upset over his kid being half black. Then these dumb dumbs were upset for LGBTQ people existing.
Before spoiling the episodes I will just say they complaints are without merit .
Big spoilers, don't read if you plan on watching the show.
I played the game and I honestly didn't remember what race Joel daughter was because it doesn't matter at all in the game. She dies before the intro credits roll. The way people were talking I thought she was Ellie and would be in the entire season. I completely forgot she caught a bullet in the game.
The thing is the actress was really good. You fall in love with her right away. She nails the father daughter relationship. What these racists can't understand is that she was obviously the best actress that read for the part. It is the same thing with Mando, the dude is amazing in everything.
Now in episode the show focuses on two people that love each and they happen to be gay. When I watched this I was like what a nice couple not what a nice gay couple or oh boy get that gay s out of my face. I was just like this a really nice moment during the zombie apocalypse.
Half the comments are like its a gay agenda. This what jk warned us about. Wokeness is taking over everything. What in the living F. So according to them there can't be any gay representation at all. The show never tried to push anything. The characters are different in the game but they are gay in the game. They could have put a straight couple in the show and nothing would have changed except for one moment where Frank asks Bill if this is his first time with a man. So what is the agenda? That a random gay couple could exist? SHOCKING.
Anyway I hope the rest of the season is this good.
So what is the agenda? That a random gay couple could exist?
I mean, yes, the existence of people who aren't exactly like them is, in fact, the thing that people who use the term "woke" disparagingly are objecting to.
These dumbsh*ts have been around TLoU conversation since at least the second cinematic trailer for Part 2 (that's at least where I became aware of them). That trailer featured Ellie at a town dance kissing a woman, and that's when suddenly a lot more videos about "agendas" started infecting my recommendations, how the represented a pernicious shift from the original which, these dumbsh*ts insisted, they were huge fans of. "Somehow" they missed the widely celebrated DLC for the first game, where Ellie was established as L or B. It's not exactly a big "Gotcha" to point out that these sorts of dumbsh*ts have very poor reading and critical thinking skills, and aren't actually fans of anything at all, but it's still annoying.
Same with Bill and Frank. Show Bill and Frank are a big change from the source, but the way Bill is performed in the game, it's pretty obvious what he really means when he keeps calling Frank "his partner." If you look through the concept art, you'll discover that initially the characters of Henry and Sam were white, and then it seems they realized there was no reason not to have them be black, and so they were. The adaptation just followed in that tradition.
I bristle at "X has always been 'woke,'" because these whiners don't know, they are never actually fans of the thing they're whining about, and also they've made that term so broad and meaningless, the statement itself is as well, but it still pisses me off, I can't help it.
Baron Of Hell wrote:So what is the agenda? That a random gay couple could exist?
I mean, yes, the existence of people who aren't exactly like them is, in fact, the thing that people who use the term "woke" disparagingly are objecting to.
What really made them mad was
a very conservative pro-gun anti-government character... was gay.
*Heavy, resigned sigh*
There really isn't any good evidence that Cleopatra was black (the overwhelming majority points to her being a Macedonian Greek, like... y'know, her whole family) and claims that ancient Egypt was a majority black country are not scientific. Acknowledging that does not mean overlooking the colorism and racism in Arab/Mediterranean societies.
But the producer said "her heritage is highly debated"
Yes, in the same way that the moon landing is "highly debated."
He was the new it boy for about a month there between the releases of Ant-Man (he was apparently quite good amongst all the... other stuff) and Creed 3.
To quote Chris Rock, "Grand opening, grand closing."
Maybe someone at the red carpet premiere for The Flash should ask Ezra Miller for their thoughts on Jonathan Majors. Just because.
For reasons that I assume are highly financial DC seems to be sticking with Ezra. I hope they dump him after the Flash movie. He isn't good enough to warrant backing him.
And I am happy Disney/Marvel is dumping Majors. No reason for either of them to be being given a limelight.
Weren't the allegations against Majors dropped?
Weren't the allegations against Majors dropped?
Seems mixed for what's going on at the moment.
I have not heard or seen that Marvel has dumped him so far.
I think Disney/Marvel is feeling, perhaps understandably, gun-shy about acting too quickly with Majors. They wound up looking pretty stupid when they fired James Gunn only to sheepishly hire him back. I sort of doubt that Majors is going to come out of this looking as relatively good as Gunn did, and of course the allegations against Majors are far more serious. But I sort of don't blame Disney for wanting to lay back in the cut a bit and see how it all shakes out before making any irrevocable moves.
*Heavy, resigned sigh*
There really isn't any good evidence that Cleopatra was black (the overwhelming majority points to her being a Macedonian Greek, like... y'know, her whole family) and claims that ancient Egypt was a majority black country are not scientific. Acknowledging that does not mean overlooking the colorism and racism in Arab/Mediterranean societies.But the producer said "her heritage is highly debated"Yes, in the same way that the moon landing is "highly debated."
Surely we've put greater atrocities against history on film?
The actress reminds me a lot of Eartha Kitt, so I'm a go-tep with the Hotep.
Weren't the allegations against Majors dropped?
No. There was just an unverified image of a text message that supposedly came from the victim that, depending on how charitable you were at the moment, either read like it was written by Majors' lawyers or it was written by a serially abused woman sadly trying to save her partner from the legal consequences of his abuse.
Seems it's not just one (for now alleged) victim.
We really can't have nice things.
Watched Queen Cleopatra on netflix. The Egyptian government is suing netflix because Cleopatra is being played by a black woman. The series gives a reason why Cleopatra could have been any of a different shades including snow white or dark black or somewhere in between.
The show did make a misstep in having a quote from someone's mom or grandmother that said I don't care what they teach you in school Cleopatra was black. That part was before explanation on why we don't what her skin color was or the question why is she always played by a white woman if she could have some shade of brown.
Most of the racist backlash on show don't even bring up the line that she was black because they haven't watched the show. There is a huge amount of blacklash just based on the trailer. i think this is just fueled by anti blackness or I'm having trouble filtering out the racists from people with real concerns,.
They still haven’t gotten over Nick Fury being black.
Yeah. The fact that they don't seem to have a problem with Gerard Butler playing Set or Nightwing playing Bek, but suddenly a black woman playing Cleopatra is a problem speaks volumes about ingrained white supremacy and the colonization of the mind.
I only watched the D&D movie last night, so did I miss them pitch a racist fit over Elminster being Black?
I only watched the D&D movie last night, so did I miss them pitch a racist fit over Elminster being Black?
I don't like to throw around phrases like 'fake nerd' but it really applies to the geek defence forces that are marshalled every time something gets "woke."
You see it with complaints about 4th wall breaking in She Hulk and similar examples. Groups of drones get sent out by conservative YouTubers and influencers that don't know anything about the topic. They're just told it's bad, so they parrot the lines they are fed by grifters whose own knowledge is surface level at best.
All that to say, I think that knowledge of Elminster is too deep for the usual right wing culture warriors to pretend to be offended by defend.
I'll credit Bob Chipman with this observation/conclusion, but it's correct: No one told them to be outraged, so they weren't.
I also don't like tossing around fake nerd, but, yeah, they prove over and over and over and over again that they aren't actually fans of anything they're supposedly angry over. They never know anything about whatever it is.
I made this a while back when the manufactured outrage was about black hobbits in Amazon's sh*tty Lord of the Rings spinoff:
Rule of thumb, when a fan base that has never been anything less than nice normal people before suddenly turn rabidly racist, the problem is probably not actually that fan base.
Turns out the ending of LOST wasn't the sh*tty part of the show. Based on excerpts from Maureen Ryan's new book published by Vanity Fair by way of The AV Club:
When someone on staff was adopting an Asian child, one person said to another writer that “no grandparent wants a slanty-eyed grandchild.”When actor Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje’s picture was on the writers room table, someone was told to remove their nearby wallet “before he steals it.”
When a woman entered the writers room carrying a binder, two sources said, a male writer asked her what it was. She said it was the HR manual for the studio, and he responded, “Why don’t you take off your top and tell us about it?”
There was apparently some discomfort around the show’s cleaning staff using the bathroom in the Lost offices, and there were “jokes” about “putting up a Whites Only sign.”
Given the title of the book in question, LOST isn't being singled out and probably isn't the only show who's toxic environs are about to be put on public display.
Who's taking bets on Game of Thrones?
Well that's horrible.
Given the title of the book in question, LOST isn't being singled out and probably isn't the only show who's toxic environs are about to be put on public display.
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