[Discussion] On Television, Cinema and Race

Thread for race issues in media.

Birth Of a Nation
This movie isn't do so good. I think this is because black people are tired of slave type movies, white people don't want the white guilt, and everybody else is turned off by the rape case. I mean this in general. This is just a perfect storm for the downfall of the movie.

Surviving Compton
Straight out of compton left out the ladies. This lifetime show means to correct that. I believe all of the production was done by women.

Mulan live.
All Chinese cast. Maybe the dumb choices of Gods of Egypt are over.

Gremlin wrote:

LA Times: Climate change: It took 25 years before Hollywood was ready for Harriet Tubman

Picture 1994: “This is a great script. Let’s get Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman,” said the then-president of a studio sublabel. Fortunately, there was a single black person in that studio meeting 25 years ago who told him that Harriet Tubman was a black woman. The president replied, “That was so long ago. No one will know that.”

Thus began the epic 25-year journey of getting my Harriet Tubman script to the screen.

That's so awful I'm almost impressed.

Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but Native American comedian Joey Clift was invited to guest on the podcast "How Did This Get Played" in a Thanksgiving episode discussing Custer's Revenge. Rather than ignore the obvious issue with that, he went on the show, and called out the hosts for tokenizing him. It's a really powerful discussion, and while uncomfortable, it also highlights a better way for people to respond when they're called out on being racist. The hosts apologized, asked how they can be better, and invited him to come back for an episode that highlights his complete self. They even gave him final edit of the episode and asked him to write the description. It's well worth listening to (discussion starts at about 23:30).

trichy wrote:

Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but Native American comedian Joey Clift was invited to guest on the podcast "How Did This Get Played" in a Thanksgiving episode discussing Custer's Revenge. Rather than ignore the obvious issue with that, he went on the show, and called out the hosts for tokenizing him. It's a really powerful discussion, and while uncomfortable, it also highlights a better way for people to respond when they're called out on being racist. The hosts apologized, asked how they can be better, and invited him to come back for an episode that highlights his complete self. They even gave him final edit of the episode and asked him to write the description. It's well worth listening to (discussion starts at about 23:30).

Yeah it was a very enlightening conversation, and I really respect Joey for handling it the way he did.
He also wrote a really good follow-up article: I celebrated Native American Heritage Month by ruining a comedy podcast

So no black people or female directors were nominated in the Oscars this year. Made me think if gender was removed would any women get nominated for anything. I gave up on award shows so don't know if others did better.

Cynthia Arivo was nominated for Best Actress for Harriet, but I think she's the only black nominee for anything. Antonio Banderas was nominated for Best Actor, and Bong Joon-Ho was nominated for Best Director. Otherwise yeah, #OscarsSoWhite is still in full effect.

And Greta Gerwin not being nominated for Best Director is total bullsh*t. Same with Lupita Nyong'o not getting nominated for Best Actress. I thought Us was pretty problematic, but her performance was still f*cking great.

Isn't Antonio Banderas white?

slazev wrote:

Isn't Antonio Banderas white?

I had misremembered him as being from a country in Central America, but he's Spanish. So Hispanic but not Latino. My mistake.

So in that case is not about race, but nationality?

I have nowhere else to post this, but I simply must scream:

So at my job's Facebook page we put up a "Happy Black History Month!" post. Now, I fully expected the "what happened to red history month and what happened to yellow history month?" guy, because that moron is always right on time.

However, the lady who asked "Isn't it racist to select one race to celebrate? What month is Italian month? French?" was particularly impressive because ITALIAN HERITAGE MONTH IS LITERALLY OCTOBER IT LITERALLY IS A A MONTH.

Prederick wrote:

I have nowhere else to post this, but I simply must scream:

So at my job's Facebook page we put up a "Happy Black History Month!" post. Now, I fully expected the "what happened to red history month and what happened to yellow history month?" guy, because that moron is always right on time.

However, the lady who asked "Isn't it racist to select one race to celebrate? What month is Italian month? French?" was particularly impressive because ITALIAN HERITAGE MONTH IS LITERALLY OCTOBER IT LITERALLY IS A A MONTH.

But what about the French?!?!
Checkmate.

They get Bastille Day celebrations and Louisiana, they'll have to live with it.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
slazev wrote:

Isn't Antonio Banderas white?

I had misremembered him as being from a country in Central America, but he's Spanish. So Hispanic but not Latino. My mistake.

This is actually a point of great contention