[News] What's Trump Done This Time, part 2

The continuation of the thread chronicling Trump's gaffes, faux pas, and other face palm-worthy antics. Light discussion welcome.

CONTENT WARNING: This thread regularly contains vulgar language, as well as depictions of racism, sexism, and sexual assault, among other potential triggers.

He's still going to court for rape and fraud?

ranalin wrote:

He's still going to court for rape and fraud?

Only fraud. The teen who said she was raped by the President-elect dropped her lawsuit a couple of days ago.

OG_slinger wrote:
ranalin wrote:

He's still going to court for rape and fraud?

Only fraud. The teen who said she was raped by the President-elect dropped her lawsuit a couple of days ago.

Also of note, he's going to civil court for fraud. Not criminal court. So at worst, he'll have to pay damages.

Right, because that has no bearing at all on whether he actually *committed* the crime. It's like it never happened!

Alz wrote:

The only bad thing I remember Bush actually doing was announcing the restriction on Federal funding of Embryionic Stem Cell Research, which was at least a moral decision. The response to Katrina was bad, but that was a failure on so many levels I don't think any single person could be to blame for it. And while 9/11 happened while he was president, that was a surprise attack on America and nobody should be blamed for it but the terrorists.

The Iraq War?

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Alz wrote:

The only bad thing I remember Bush actually doing was announcing the restriction on Federal funding of Embryionic Stem Cell Research, which was at least a moral decision. The response to Katrina was bad, but that was a failure on so many levels I don't think any single person could be to blame for it. And while 9/11 happened while he was president, that was a surprise attack on America and nobody should be blamed for it but the terrorists.

The Iraq War?

Given the Democratic support of the war at the time, I'm really not convinced that Gore wouldn't have made a similar decision. I'll give you that it wouldn't probably have been so badly managed.

Katrina would have also been a sh*t show but federal support would likely have been much better under Kerry or Gore.

I don't believe Gore wiuld have lied to congress and the public to take war to Iraq. The Democrats were not for the war nearly as much as they were worried that they would be vilified by voters if they resisted.

EDIT: in hindsight I'm letting Bush too much off the hook for the fiasco.

Gore is notoriously fact-based, a real policy wonk. He'd not have set up a back-channel intel shop to bypass the CIA and others, nor would he have neglected the intel that Hussein didn't have WMDs. He'd have most likely gone into Afghanistan and then gone directly into the low-intensity African war, heavy on the black world and SF stuff, because that's the example that had been set for him in the past. We would not have had the big Al Qaida presence in the Middle East to deal with; however, there would be more activity in Chechnya, the FSU 'stans and the former Yugoslavia, as fighters there were radicalized but not drained off by opportunities in the Middle East.

The invasion of Iraq was the result of Bush's chosen team of advisors and their methods, not historical inevitability. To claim that a different team would have made the same errors and reacted identically is a bit weird.

so what's a good price to start the bidding on a bachelor with Canadian citizenship ?

OG_slinger wrote:
ranalin wrote:

He's still going to court for rape and fraud?

Only fraud. The teen who said she was raped by the President-elect dropped her lawsuit a couple of days ago.

Ah. I thought there was another besides her.

ranalin wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:
ranalin wrote:

He's still going to court for rape and fraud?

Only fraud. The teen who said she was raped by the President-elect dropped her lawsuit a couple of days ago.

Ah. I thought there was another besides her.

There probably is...

my hope is that she gains the sense of safety to take it up as a criminal matter rather than civil one, but not expecting that to occur

Russians Confirm: "There were contacts"

“There were contacts,” Interfax news agency cited Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.
farley3k wrote:

Russians Confirm: "There were contacts"

“There were contacts,” Interfax news agency cited Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.

Really concerned about the implications of the FBI being in the tank for Trump, given the pre-election Comey email release (with a retraction coming just after the Sunday talk shows wrapped, maximizing the damage to Clinton), while simultaneously insisting that there was not enough evidence to even mention potential ties between Trump and Russia.

It is really hard to figure out sometimes which thread news goes into. I guess this is about something trump said he would do, but probably won't do....which I think trumpists had better get used to.

Top Trump Supporters Suggest He Won’t Really Lock Up Hillary Clinton

“I think that somebody should review that very carefully, as to how bad is that evidence,” said Giuliani, who is reportedly under consideration to be Trump’s attorney general. “If it isn’t as bad as some of the exaggerators think it is, then maybe the best thing to do is forget about it and move on. If it is really bad, then somebody’s got to look at it who is independent.”
Dimmerswitch wrote:

Really concerned about the implications of the FBI being in the tank for Trump, given the pre-election Comey email release (with a retraction coming just after the Sunday talk shows wrapped, maximizing the damage to Clinton), while simultaneously insisting that there was not enough evidence to even mention potential ties between Trump and Russia.

It's an easy story to buy, though. What sort of leftist volunteers for the FBI?

I might want to review that longform Vox piece on authoritarian tendencies again.

So can we also assume the FBI will have no interest in investigating reports of Trump breaking embargoes in Iran and Cuba?

farley3k wrote:

It is really hard to figure out sometimes which thread news goes into. I guess this is about something trump said he would do, but probably won't do....which I think trumpists had better get used to.

Politicians not following through on their campaign promises? Unpossible!

Alz wrote:
farley3k wrote:

It is really hard to figure out sometimes which thread news goes into. I guess this is about something trump said he would do, but probably won't do....which I think trumpists had better get used to.

Politicians not following through on their campaign promises? Unpossible!

Sorry, the Republicans ensured Obama gets a pass for not getting work done. And there has been more than a little discussion on these forums about the general disappointment in Obama.

I'm curious if, now that he's actually got the job, he'll now be required to release tax returns. Aren't judges and gov't officials required to do that?

Edit. Wow, looking it up, the little I've found so far is that the presidency is uniquely suited to conflicts of interest.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...

Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!

I'll be honest, I can't recall if this is the parody account or not.

Bloo Driver wrote:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...

Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!

I'll be honest, I can't recall if this is the parody account or not.

pretty sure it's both.

That's the real one. You can tell it's real because he put "real" in the handle. (To be fair, I think he registered it in the pre-checkmark, post-namegrab days when that was a thing people did on Twitter.)

Meanwhile, he's going to put his assets in a blind trust. Run by his children. Which is the exact opposite of a blind trust.

CNBC:

NEW: Trump lawyer says will ask for delay of TrumpU fraud trial until early next year as Trump has many tasks before inauguration -Reuters
Gremlin wrote:

CNBC:

NEW: Trump lawyer says will ask for delay of TrumpU fraud trial until early next year as Trump has many tasks before inauguration -Reuters

"Your Honor, I ask that this case be thrown out on the grounds of fraud now being legal."

Sorry, LTTP on this.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Alz wrote:

The only bad thing I remember Bush actually doing was announcing the restriction on Federal funding of Embryionic Stem Cell Research, which was at least a moral decision. The response to Katrina was bad, but that was a failure on so many levels I don't think any single person could be to blame for it. And while 9/11 happened while he was president, that was a surprise attack on America and nobody should be blamed for it but the terrorists.

The Iraq War?

Alz wrote:

The real problems with his presidency were from the cast of clowns that he surrounded himself with, who took the War on Terror on a world-wide tour - Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, and Donald Rumsfeld.

Gotta get back at Saddam for shooting at daddy.

Bloo Driver wrote:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...

Very unfair!

Wow, that's so petulant I'm a bit ashamed for him.

Guess a PR person got to him:

These threads were made to split off some of the election talk. Now that the election is done we're closing them up.