GWJ Conference Call Episode 518

Halcyon 6: Starbase Commander, WoW: Legion, Rocket League Rumble, PAX West, The Donation Drive Launches, Your Emails and More!

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00:01:26 World of Warcraft: Legion
00:12:40 Halcyon 6: Starbase Commander
00:19:42 Necropolis: Brutal Edition
00:21:47 Rocket League: Rumble
00:27:42 Mass Effect 2
00:29:32 PAX West
00:51:55 Your Emails

If Minecraft is digital Legos ... Eco looks like digital Lincoln Logs.

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I'm ok with that!

Beckett wrote:

00:01:26 World of Warcraft: *Legion*

That's how I was hearing it a few times.

Hold on, gotta polish my "Official Nintendo Kiss-Ass" badge first...

You guys hit on all the major points in regards to Nintendo, though missing on the news that Pokemon GO actually contributed to the sales of the 3DS and Pokemon X/Y/Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby. So I think Pokemon GO is more evidence that the cellphone is a fantastic marketing tool for their own platforms. At least, for Pokemon.

But the thing people keep saying about Nintendo getting into just the software business is that "they'd do better". To that, I really have to wonder if they would, or if they'd actually do worse in a market directly competing with other third parties. I mean, ask yourself a simple question: "Would I purchase a Nintendo game over Doom? Over Assassin's Creed? Over Uncharted or Tomb Raider? Would I purchase a Nintendo game over a Paradox release or Titanfall 2 or Battlefield 1 or Call of Duty?"

Chances are, if the answer is "yes", you already own a Nintendo system. You like the games enough that the system justifies the price, because those experiences are a higher priority than the other typical AAA releases. It's one of the reasons why I think I'll be getting Paper Mario: Color Splash over Mafia 3, even though Mafia 3 looks really good (narratively). But if those games take priority, then it doesn't matter what platform they're on, you wouldn't play them anyway.

Going third party wouldn't help Nintendo. Hell, look at the Dreamcast anniversary thread. Look at how many games are remembered fondly on that system, and when you think of SEGA today, the only iconic thing that still remains is Sonic, and out of a stubborn insistence that the character is still cool or relevant by the company as much as the fanbase. Not to say they're a "bad" publisher, but they've struggled whereas the Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast had an assortment of titles, even third party, that made SEGA cherished in people's minds. For me, Marvel vs. Capcom is as much a SEGA title as Capcom because it played better on Dreamcast. Same with Soul Calibur. Can you really tell me Nintendo would be better off as a third party?

I had a thought on another e-mail, but unfortunately I listened to the podcast in the morning and it is now the end of the day, so the thought escaped me. Or the e-mail topic. Alas.

I may have re-listened to the shout-out a couple of times*.

*literally dozens of times

They came out with DLC on Tuesday Night
Zero Hour, 9AM
And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then
I miss the ball so much, I miss the goal
It's lonely out in pubbies
In such an awesome game

An I think it's gonna be a long, long time
Till donut map comes up in rotation again
That's not the car I use in hockey mode
Oh no, no, no. I'm a rocket car.
Rocket Car doin' flips 'till I explode

I am dead.

Amoebic wrote:

I am dead.

(Must.... resist... oh no! I can't!)

Nice to meet you, dead. I'm Greg!

I'm glad I resisted buying No Man's Sky. I'd love to play it and start naming the crap out of stuff but I doubt very much I'd enjoy it in it's current state. I'd rather wait six month (I don't think I could play all the games I own and want to play between now and then anyway) and see how the game has improved in that time.

Higgledy wrote:

I'm glad I resisted buying No Man's Sky. I'd love to play it and start naming the crap out of stuff but I doubt very much I'd enjoy it in it's current state. I'd rather wait six month (I don't think I could play all the games I own and want to play between now and then anyway) and see how the game has improved.

Same here. As soon as I heard a couple of folks say the space battles were "crap" I was immediately out.

Excuse me, the fear of being murdered while playing vr is perfectly rational, it's not a phobia.

And Bioshock 2 hate, I'll cut you guys. It's the definition of an initially apparently unnecessary sequel that exceeds it's origins, and it's predecessor.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Excuse me, the fear of being murdered while playing vr is perfectly rational, it's not a phobia.

And Bioshock 2 hate, I'll cut you guys. It's the definition of an initially apparently unnecessary sequel that exceeds it's origins, and it's predecessor.

I agree, but only after the DLC

The best part of this CC was when Julian promised a new Meeples concept album full of songs about Rocket League.

rabbit wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

Excuse me, the fear of being murdered while playing vr is perfectly rational, it's not a phobia.

And Bioshock 2 hate, I'll cut you guys. It's the definition of an initially apparently unnecessary sequel that exceeds it's origins, and it's predecessor.

I agree, but only after the DLC

To each their own, obv, but for me the back half of Bioshock 2 was the best section of any Bioshock game, although I haven't played Minerva's Den, so I'm open to that moving the goalposts when I do eventually get around to it.

The weak ending of Bioshock really compromised the whole game for me, whereas B2 really great ending served as a great third act for the whole Bioshock Rapture story. It elevated the whole experience. That took it from apparently unnecessary apparent cash in to a completely necessary sequel, it essentially improved the original.

I said recently in the Infinite thread that to me Bioshock 1 and 2 make for a single long story with a weak 2nd act.

I'm with Mr. DeVil909. I almost (but not quite) preferred Bioshock 2 to Bioshock 1, and I definitely preferred it to Infinite.

It was the first time I ever actually enjoyed playing an escort mission. Setting up to defend the Little Sister from the hoard of splicers as she harvested the dead was a perfect blend of FPS and tower defense.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I haven't played Bioshock 2 in a while but at the time there were things I felt it did better than the original and then things it just didn't measure up to.

However, they definitely did a better job with the endings compared to the first Bioshock. Way better.

I don't really view Infinite as better or worse, though. It's... somewhere else entirely.

doubtingthomas396 wrote:

I'm with Mr. DeVil909. I almost (but not quite) preferred Bioshock 2 to Bioshock 1, and I definitely preferred it to Infinite.

Yeah, it's super close between 1 & 2. The opening of Bioshock is amazing, the sense of place and weirdness that permeates everything as you explore is better than I've ever seen anywhere else. But 2 has these believably flawed human characters that emerge as you get to know them, and good ending are hard, so I give slightly more weight to an ending that really sticks the landing.

I've been enjoying Halcyon 6, but it really feels like it should have been a mobile game.

It really makes me think of Knights of Pen and Paper.

Tyops wrote:

I've been enjoying Halcyon 6, but it really feels like it should have been a mobile game.

It really makes me think of Knights of Pen and Paper.

Well, this is Massive Damage's first PC game. Their previous effort was a mobile game.

Boy, I've never played Bioshock 2. I bought it a long time ago on Steam sale, and it ended up not working on the PC I owned at the time. Maybe I should fire it up now that I have a newer machine...

I also loved the original, except for the $#!^ ending. I never played Infinite.

doubtingthomas396 wrote:
Tyops wrote:

I've been enjoying Halcyon 6, but it really feels like it should have been a mobile game.

It really makes me think of Knights of Pen and Paper.

Well, this is Massive Damage's first PC game. Their previous effort was a mobile game.

Well this explains everything. It's not too damning but it definitely has that feel.