[Discussion] Trans Issues and Rights

This thread is for the discussion of current events relating to trans rights, for discussion of the lives of trans people and difficulties they face, and for basic questions about the lives and experiences of trans people. (If basic questions become dominant we'll look at making a Q&A thread at that time.)

Hypatian wrote:

Or maybe bonus points to ask which marketing they'd prefer to participate in, plus include one of the more inclusive gender options. This potentially gives you some interesting additional information. For example: I wouldn't be surprised if there's a substantial set of lesbian women who might be interested in items and marketing aimed at men.

That's perfect. Actually asking the question you want answered, rather than a tangential question whose answer will be interpreted to answer the original question, is always a better plan.

Ugh.


Transgender woman sues over ordeal in male prison

One of Britain’s most prominent transgender activists is embroiled in an extraordinary legal battle with the Ministry of Justice, in a landmark discrimination case.

Tara Hudson, a trans woman, was sent to a male prison in 2015, prompting a national outcry with more than 150,000 people signing a petition calling for her to be moved to a women’s jail. Hudson is suing the MoJ for damages, alleging that her status as a woman was ignored when she was imprisoned, that she suffered sexual assault during her incarceration and that she was placed in an atmosphere that was “intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating and offensive”.

But just to add insult and injury to...insult and injury....

In court papers seen by the Observer, the MoJ and government lawyers argue that they do not consider Hudson to be a woman despite the make-up artist reassigning her gender and living as a woman for her adult life. They state Hudson “is as a matter of biological fact a man” and add that the term “transwoman” has no legal significance. They say they have adopted female pronouns when referring to Hudson only “out of respect for her wishes”. In response, Hudson’s legal team accuse government lawyers of adopting “transphobic, unnecessarily abrasive, aggressive and insulting” language towards Hudson, who has breasts and has used hormones for years but does not have a gender recognition certificate.

remind me to never get arrested

also f*ck the MoJ and Westminster.

CN: Suicide, self-harm

Spoiler:

On Tuesday night, a very good friend of mine—a one-time lover, primary partner of one of the people I love beyond belief—took hir own life.

Ze was not someone known to more than a couple of the people on these forums, but ze touched my life deeply. I think it's fair to say that ze shaped the entire last year of my life. So I want to memorialize hir here and share some of my memories and hir experiences with you.

Hir death has sent us reeling, and sent shockwaves through my community—through my chosen family. It's revealed a deep strength in how we are tied together.

Aria wrote:

Queer culture is grieving as a family no outsider would recognize, a haphazard landslide of lovers & friends. The ones who bring the tequila & gin, the ones who bring the casseroles, the ones who bring the cookies and apologize about the butter, the ones who make a big thai curry

But the hurting doesn't stop. Today I returned to work for part of the day. I haven't really been effective, but I wanted to try to do something normal. But it's not really normal. We're still bleeding. We will be for a long time.

Hir name was Amelia Perry, hir pronouns were ze/hir or she/her, and ze was brilliant, courageous, wonderful, talented, and young. So, so young. Ze brought a light into every room ze stepped into. Ze would have finished hir Ph.D. in mathematics this year. Now we'll never get to call hir Dr. Perry.

Ze also lived with mental illness, and was let down greatly by the mental health system. Ze had been struggling for months, and dealing with hir illness for longer.

Daria wrote:

I’m angry at the state of mental health care in this country, in this commonwealth, in this area. We have better options than a lot of places, and in spite of that the sorry state of it lost me my partner.

None of this is news. Amelia actively campaigned to receive effective treatment for hir trauma. In spite of the hopes we had at that point, of a medication tweak and ongoing forward progress, things never moved forward again.

I don’t want anyone else to go through what Amelia did trying to get treated, or what we did watching failure after failure. I know I don’t have the fortitude to deal with it today, but I need to amass it, so Amelia did not die for nothing.

Ze also chronicled many of hir struggles with the mental health system—as well as brighter parts of hir life—on hir twitter account.

Amelia's loss has hit all of us so very hard, and I hope beyond hope that we don't lose anyone else to the despair of that loss.

Ze is missed, and will be missed long into the future. Hir absence will be a wound in our hearts and souls for years to come. The world is a lesser place after hir passing.

Rest in power, Amelia Perry. We will not forget you.

I saw the post on Facebook, but wasn't sure if it was appropriate to comment there. I'm so sorry for your loss, Hyp.

I'm so sorry for your loss, Katherine. [hugs]

I'm so sorry for your loss, Hyp

That's heartbreaking.

*hugs*

Thank you for all of your support. Freyja has been struggling through this as well, and I'm glad she's by my side because she's doing a good job keeping me upright even while mourning herself.

I’m glad you have each other and very sorry for your loss.

I’m so sorry Hyp.

sh*t. I'm so sorry, Kat and Hannah. I'm glad you two are together to help each other through this.

Chelsea Manning is running for the US Senate in Maryland.

I heard her on NPR and she didn't impress. I'm probably still going to vote for her, though.

When challenged about being in a position that is meant to safeguard classified information:

I will protect you. I will protect employees, military personnel, who feel like they have no voice in the government. There’s an unspoken fear in speaking out. People in government are afraid of losing their jobs. They don’t speak out.

yyyyeahh....I'd be happier about that if she hadn't been caught socialising with Mike Cernovich. Sorry..."gathering intelligence against the far right" at an 'alt-right' love-in.

The Alt-Right party later photos showed she had a wrist band for, or the escape room she did with them, or the games of cards against humanity she played in one of their apartments.

She's apologized (The Daily Beast: Chelsea Manning on Her Alt-Right Partying: I Was a Spy, Not a Racist) but it's still really bad optics at best and not an effective way to use her platform.

She's human, not a saint. Which doesn't necessarily qualify her for the Senate, and she'd probably be more effective learning to use her symbolic status first, but this looks like "really bad judgement call" not "secret right-wing convert".

Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, North Adams, MA
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, Los Angeles, CA
Amelia Perry, 26, Somerville, MA

Freyja wrote:

Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, North Adams, MA
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, Los Angeles, CA
Amelia Perry, 26, Somerville, MA

Gremlin wrote:

She's apologized (The Daily Beast: Chelsea Manning on Her Alt-Right Partying: I Was a Spy, Not a Racist) but it's still really bad optics at best and not an effective way to use her platform.

She's human, not a saint. Which doesn't necessarily qualify her for the Senate, and she'd probably be more effective learning to use her symbolic status first, but this looks like "really bad judgement call" not "secret right-wing convert".

I’m aware of her apology, and I’m more than inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt, at least so far as to assume her actions aren’t malicious. However if you’re going to try and forward progressive causes and become a public advocate for them then not palling around with neo-nazis seems like a really low bar to expect someone to clear. It reinforces questions about her judgment at a minimum. If the person she was attempting to primary was a Tulsi Gabbar, far less progressive then the district they represented, I’d be more receptive to the attempt. As it stands between my misgivings over her judgement and how well matched her opponent is to his constituency I don’t find myself able to support her senate run.

Freyja wrote:

Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, North Adams, MA
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, Los Angeles, CA
Amelia Perry, 26, Somerville, MA

No words

f*ck. Sorry for the swearing, but this has really upset me. Something just happened to one of my partners that I need to share with you all, because I think it illustrates just how f*cking evil some transphobic people can be.

CN: profanity, suicide, transphobia, terfs

Spoiler:

A: i literally just got a message on tinder from a cis woman named charlene.
A: the full text of this message is, and i quote
A: "Remind me what percent of trans commit suicide?"
H: WHAT THE f*ck.
H: WHAT. THE. f*ck.
A: "It's somewhere in here: {link to a report on trans suicide}"
H: Hello, waiter? I would like one serving of THE ABILITY TO TORCH PEOPLE WITH MY f*ckING MIND please. Thank you.
H: Jesus f*ck.
H: I just.
H: f*ck.
A: me: excuse me?
A: her: you read, right?
A: me: i do, and i'm very familiar with the frequency of suicide in my community.
A: me: what i'm wondering is why you sent me such a cruel, pointless, vapid message.
H: I am _so f*cking mad_ at this person right now.
A: her: for luls
H: If someone said that sh*t to me in person right now, I would in fact swing at them immediately and damn the consequences.
A: reported
A: me: a very good friend of mine completed suicide not a week ago.
A: her: your friend misses you. go visit.
P: what the actual f*ck
A: are. you. f*cking. kidding. me.
L: WOOOOOOWWWW
H: That's about what I expect from this piece of human garbage.
L: report again
L: jesus f*ck
P: "i hope some day you accept whatever childhood trauma or self-hate makes you think this is an acceptable use of energy. Until then, I hope you live a painful existence without love."
A: and she sent me a heart.
A: awwwwww
A: and a gif of someone choking.
A: and then she unmatched me

Jesus Christ. What the f*ck is wrong with that person.

I'm so sorry you got that sh*t thrown at you on top of everything else.

f*ckING HELL, Hyp.

Do you have screenshots? Call the cops.

Jesus, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

What the actual f*ck is wrong with people!?

I am so sorry Hyp.

I just want to throw in a little love and support to hopefully balance some of the hate. I don't know what more to do, other than to always stand up for the LGBTQ community every chance I get in meat space, and to try to foster understanding and empathy. To you, my internet friends, I can only send my love and support. I want you to know that you have that at least.

SillyRabbit wrote:

I just want to throw in a little love and support to hopefully balance some of the hate. I don't know what more to do, other than to always stand up for the LGBTQ community every chance I get in meat space, and to try to foster understanding and empathy. To you, my internet friends, I can only send my love and support. I want you to know that you have that at least.

Dear Webmaster,
This is a polite request for more likes. I'm gonna need, like, a million? Two million? What have you got?
All the likes.

Thanks,
Mix

Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, North Adams, MA
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, Los Angeles, CA
Amelia Perry, 26, Somerville, MA
Tonya Harvey, 35, Buffalo, NY

Catherine Lhamon, who led the Education Department's Office for Civil Rights during the Obama administration, said the new school-restroom policy is legally dubious.

“Until now, the official position of the Department has been that Title IX protects all students and that they were evaluating how that protection applies to the issue of bathroom access,” she said in an email to BuzzFeed News. “This new categorical bar of civil rights protection for transgender children required to attend schools every day ignores the text of the law, courts' interpretation of the law, the stated position of the Department to date, and human decency.”

The Education Department’s stance conflicts with two federal appeals courts, which held that Title IX guarantees transgender students’ access to restrooms matching their gender identity. Lower courts have been divided on the matter.

Although Hill said “the law says” transgender student restroom complaints aren’t covered by Title IX, the law does not say that.

Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 says it bans discrimination "on the basis of sex" in publicly funded education settings. Does that exclude transgender restroom disputes? The plain text of the law, as some federal judges have noted, does not answer the question. It’s ambiguous, they say. The term "sex” — including in the law concerning separate restrooms — is not defined as referring to gender identity or a person’s sex as identified at birth.

But insofar as Title IX needs clarity, the highest courts in the United States to contemplate the law’s scope found it does, in fact, confer transgender students the right to use public school restrooms matching their gender identity.

Federal appeals courts for the 6th Circuit and 7th Circuit both suspended school restroom policies, ruling that transgender students were likely to prevail at trial using claims under Title IX.

Most recently, in May 2017, a unanimous three-judge panel for 7th Circuit wrote in Whitaker v. Kenosha Unified School District that a “policy that requires an individual to use a bathroom that does not conform with his or her gender identity punishes that individual for his or her gender non‐conformance, which in turn violates Title IX."

The policy they're turning around was forced by the courts. The Obama administration didn't fabricate it out of whole cloth, they provided guidance because the courts ruled for trans rights again and again. This is just... ugh.

How many constitutional crises are we up to now? Department of Education is, in part, responsible for enforcing and overseeing Title IX. The courts have determined what that means and DeptEd is saying, naaaaaaah.

*headdesk*